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#1058122 - 18/01/2012 20:25 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Flood]
pixie71 Offline
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Registered: 30/11/2011
Loc: Woodford Island.NE NSW
It wouldn't take much to make it flood down this way.The Clarence river is already looking quite swell.Is there another major rain event coming?
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#1058126 - 18/01/2012 20:32 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Locke]
StevefromSurfers Offline
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Registered: 17/03/2010
Loc: Surfers Paradise, Gold Coast
Originally Posted By: Locke
Those forecasts were all within 72 hours of the event though.

Put it this way. When biblical falls are reliant upon a model developing a small surface low at 6-7 days out, 99 times out of 100 those rainfalls will not eventuate. I'd be willing to lay odds of 20-1 of falls in excess of 300mm in SE QLD during the next 7 days.

Still a very interesting forecast though and not something you see everyday.


I'll take $50 on those odds Locke, minimum of 2 reported weather stations in SEQ as reported by the BOM, just to be fair smile

Always up for a gamble me lol

I reckon there's a fair chance of receiving substantial falls, maybe not as severe as forecasted but certainly worth a punt on less than half their figures!

edit:
by the way... i'm serious!


Edited by StevefromSurfers (18/01/2012 20:34)
Edit Reason: seriously....

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#1058128 - 18/01/2012 20:36 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: StevefromSurfers]
Locke Offline
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Registered: 27/12/2007
Loc: Brisbane
Maximum bet of $1 Steve. Even though I'm a climate change sceptic I'm yet to receive my paycheck from big oil.


Oh btw I meant no falls in excess of 300mm btw.


Edited by Locke (18/01/2012 20:39)

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#1058139 - 18/01/2012 20:45 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Locke]
StevefromSurfers Offline
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Registered: 17/03/2010
Loc: Surfers Paradise, Gold Coast
Ok, $1 it is grin damn, was already planning the australia day barbie boat cruise for 8 of us with the winnings then crazy

anyway, back to topic, i reckon we'll have a much better idea of whats going on after the next 2 runs, even still, would be hard to believe that they could back off on such substantial figures to anything that wont be at least causing minor-moderate floods in some coastal areas.

edit: 2 stations to record at least 301mm between now and this time next week


Edited by StevefromSurfers (18/01/2012 20:48)
Edit Reason: clarification

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#1058140 - 18/01/2012 20:47 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Locke]
Occo. Offline
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Registered: 30/08/2011
Loc: Upper Coomera
Lets remember folks- that last year the BOM warned QLD that there will be another "wet" summer ahead- so perhaps the rain over the last few days and this coming event will be the start?? We still have another few months to go of "wet season".
Will be intersting to see the models over the next 24- 36 hours- if they stay on par with this 400+ event- I would start to get a little concerned.
i drive B- Doubles from Brisbane to Cairns every week for a living- and all I can say is that from the amount of saturation I have seen today from around Tiaro all the way down to Bracken Ridge/ Boondall- if this event ( and a big IF) came along- it would be nothing short of a disaster!

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#1058149 - 18/01/2012 20:56 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Occo.]
Tarks Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2011
Loc: Moorooka ( Archerfield )
GFS is full of it , wait until more models come to some kind of agreement before we all take this model as gospel. GFS always over estimates things then tones it down later.

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#1058151 - 18/01/2012 21:04 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Tarks]
Scottie A Offline
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Registered: 23/09/2009
Loc: Spring Mountain, Brisbane
Just having a look at the charts the main difference between GFS and EC is that EC has the high in the Tasman being a little weaker resulting in SE winds, GFS on the other hand has this low being stronger and more prominent resulting in E/NE winds funneling much more moisture from the Coral Sea into the Trough. Lets see what the next few major runs hold could go either way, slight adjustments in the dynamics could yield very different results.


Edited by Scottie A (18/01/2012 21:05)
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#1058163 - 18/01/2012 21:25 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Scottie A]
CivEngSean Offline
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Registered: 22/10/2008
Loc: Indooroopilly/Mudgee
Also, remember GFS looked like it was on the pills before the rain events of summer 10/11, sometimes it is right. It just screws around with the totals for a while.

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#1058169 - 18/01/2012 21:35 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: CivEngSean]
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Registered: 3/09/2005
Loc: Caboolture
this next event wil be falling on already sodden ground in coastal areas anyways so wont take much for it to flood in costal parts
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#1058170 - 18/01/2012 21:37 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: CivEngSean]
Taylsy Offline
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Registered: 31/12/2007
Loc: Pacific Pines, Gold Coast
Taking it with a pinch of salt at the moment - there were 5 or 6 preceding GFS runs which had a GoC cyclone heading SE towards CQ/SEQ - including this morning's 12z and 18z runs. The 00z run dropped this scenario altogether but maintained a juiced-up monsoonal trough in it's extended run.

Let's see what happens over the next few runs before getting too amped about this coastal trough/strong high scenario.
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#1058176 - 18/01/2012 22:02 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Taylsy]
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Registered: 29/01/2011
I notice the 06z run is out - still high totals but has dropped from 00z. Given 06z is often a bit wacky (I think!) does it say much about what to expect next week? Any help interpreting would be great.

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#1058177 - 18/01/2012 22:05 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: snoopydoo]
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Registered: 3/09/2005
Loc: Caboolture
the heavy falls have been moved south a bit can expect them to be moved around a bit in the coming runs
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#1058179 - 18/01/2012 22:14 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Squid]
Nature's Fury Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
Loc: Brisbane Western Suburbs
The numbers will keep dropping and the bull eyes will change. Very volatile, unpredictable system.

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#1058183 - 18/01/2012 22:19 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Antonio-stormboy]
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Registered: 29/11/2009
Loc: Brisbane Western Suburbs
Nice pics, but needed to post them in Day to Day Weather not this thread smile

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#1058188 - 18/01/2012 22:26 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Nature's Fury]
Antonio-stormboy Offline
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Registered: 30/06/2010
Loc: East Ballina NSW
Well the totals have downgraded only a little but are still huge and more spread out now!

i can tell you it didnt rain all day today but parts of ballina have water just sitting there...

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#1058189 - 18/01/2012 22:31 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Antonio-stormboy]
Scottie A Offline
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Registered: 23/09/2009
Loc: Spring Mountain, Brisbane
Mehhh 06Z GFS run.... stick to the main runs 00Z and 12Z for comparison when this far out from the event. 06Z and 18Z are only useful when event is within 24hrs of happening.


Edited by Scottie A (18/01/2012 22:32)
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#1058195 - 18/01/2012 22:42 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Scottie A]
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Registered: 13/06/2011
Loc: Girards Hill (Lismore)
If that 06z comes off I'll be getting a few free days off work I think...

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#1058199 - 18/01/2012 22:55 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Scottie A]
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Registered: 7/03/2006
Loc: Bribie Island
If anyone has access to the extended 06Z GFS run, it's even crazier than the 00Z run. It just keeps bucketing down for a week. Anyway, I think GFS is factoring a strengthening of the monsoon trough which dips rather dramatically to the south fed by a consistent black nor'easterly. For instance, I have plucked out two frames to demonstrate this. In between, it's pretty constant:






But, we're just in pure fantasy land here - aren't we?
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#1058203 - 18/01/2012 23:02 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Inclement Weather]
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Registered: 31/12/2007
Loc: Pacific Pines, Gold Coast
It looks pretty IW - I must admit just out of curiosity (I am a weather nut, after all) I ran through frame by frame and the extended GFS run is just plain obnoxious.
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#1058206 - 18/01/2012 23:05 Re: SE QLD & NE NSW Possible storms & rain event : 22 - 26 Jan 2012 [Re: Taylsy]
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It's evil. We can only hope it is wrong - very wrong.
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