#1070067 - 02/02/2012 15:23
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: adon]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
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LOL I misread your title and though you had somehow strapped a doppler radar to a sheep Adon, but then I dyslexic. Hmm culling troubkle makers - better lay in a stock of mint sauce then.  They sound like an interesting breed. I must admit to never having heard of them before. Also not a farmer but have worked with sheep a long time ago after i left school for a couple of months.
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#1071108 - 04/02/2012 08:36
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: SBT]
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My neighbor tried a few up here and they are very hardy animals thats for sure , and the ram fought off a few dingo attacks , unfortunately the dingos won in the end as we could not keep up with them coming out of the ranges ...
Not sure of your fencing Adon but the ewes get their little horns stuck in ring lock all the time and don't seem to learn , lol ,, but then what sheep dose ? haha
They eat very well .. and that tail is just great ,, cook with skin on , on hot coals , yumm , just like normal lamb tails and lamb marking time ...
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#1071299 - 04/02/2012 14:57
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
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Weather Freak
Registered: 26/12/2007
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Loc: Western NSW -Cobar
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I have a prure bred Ram and some cross damara ewes I agree with you that they eat anything and they are very different to merinos
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#1078400 - 20/02/2012 11:44
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: Goody]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 29/01/2007
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Goody, the Birchip Cropping Group plus NSW researchers have had very good success on Fleabane up to 3 months after emergence. If you can lay hands on BCG's latest manual "BCG 2011 season research results", you will get the info there.
The control using Round Up CT @ 1.5 L / Ha + Surpass 475 @ 1 L / Ha gave 60 % control up to 2 months and 50 % control at 3 months growth
Round Up CT 1.5 L / Ha + Surpass 475 1 L / Ha followed by a double knock Sprayseed 2 L / Ha [ Li700 @ 300 mls/ ha was added ] This mix plus the double knock Sprayseed gave a 100% control up to the 2 month stage and 90% at the 3 month stage of growth.
Ally reputedly gives good residual control.
[ Note; This mix above has not been registered for Fleabane and must NOT be used specifically for Fleabane until the necessary permits [ Vic ] for use are issued ]
There! Fullfilled my legal duty!!!
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#1079615 - 22/02/2012 15:01
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: Goody]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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Fleabane is horrific in our area this year, too. I don' tknow what to do with it. Fleabane and Great Mullein (Verbascum). MCPA/Metsulferon knocks the verbascum (metsulferon on its own isn't quite as effective, oddly) but fleabane in such numbers is new to me.
I don't want to use non-specific herbicides like roundup, I need my grass. Sprayseed ditto (horrible stuff). Does anything else hit it? (Ally is Metsulferon but I take it it doesn't kill it at advanced flowering stage?)
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#1093554 - 20/03/2012 16:06
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: Goody]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 05/10/2002
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Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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That's how it is in my district, everyone's got it and it's come out of nowhere, we don't usually see it. It's flowering now so we're stuffed.
The areas where I was broadspraying St John's there's none, so evidently it doesn't like Grazon. And where I've been hitting the Verbascum, it's folding over and going yellow, but it's hard stuff to spray because it's so narrow. My latest mix is Metsulferon, MCPA and Kamba (for the wireweed) and that seems to be killing it, but there's acres I didn't get to and it's like bamboo. The wet season did it, apparently.
You just can't win. You get the upper hand on some weeds, and then a new one arrives.
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#1093618 - 20/03/2012 18:02
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: ant]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 29/01/2007
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Fleabane is just starting to come into the Mallee and northern Wimmera in quantity here in Vic. BCG have done work on it in conjunction with the GRDC. From the BCG 2011 trial results manual. The manual has all the trial results and what worked and what didn't work in it but i will just quote what worked on Fleabane. It is particularly bad pest weed in minimum till as when buried even very shallow, germination is generally prevented .
Roundup Powermax @ 2 ltrs / Ha plus Surpass @ 1.6 Ltrs / Ha = 80% control
As above plus Ally @ 5 grms / Ha = 85% control
Double knock with the following gave between 90% and 100% control
Roundup CT @ 1.5 ltrs / Ha plus Surpass 475 @ 1 ltr / Ha in 75 ltrs / Ha water
Followed 7 days after initial knockdown by
Sprayseed @ 2 ltrs / Ha in 105 ltrs water.
Disclaimer; Spayseed in Victoria is not [ yet ] registered for this use.
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#1093926 - 20/03/2012 22:34
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: ROM]
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Registered: 02/02/2005
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Loc: Paringa-Riverland
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Getting Fleabane even in my area thanks to the wet summers and yer was told to do a double knock with the roundup followed up by sprayseed seems to get the best results or atleast so im told.
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#1094168 - 21/03/2012 10:44
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: roves]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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I really hate using Roundup and Sprayseed as my place is just open land, and it gets everything, including the grass. What little grass there is. Interesting they said Ally (metsulferon) gives 85% control, that's my observation too. Also, it seems something likes to eat it when it's young and soft, but of course it reacts by sending up multiple branches.
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#1096060 - 27/03/2012 11:27
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: Goody]
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Registered: 05/10/2002
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I think you need a machine to use a weed wiper. I do have one of those stick-things (weed wand) for roundup, but I'm not sure if it'd be useable for acres!
you're right Adon, wiping would get them as they are tall-as. You'd have to do several runs over the weeks as the shorter ones wouldn't be got. SpraySeed would deal with them.
Something's been eating the tops off the little ones, I figure it's rabbits or hares, but then teh plant sprouts 5 or 6 new branches! Like Verbascum.
Horrible weed, it's depressing. Everyone's got it, apart from people with cows who seem to eat it. I need a cow.
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#1293310 - 24/12/2014 09:49
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: adon]
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Registered: 16/11/2014
Posts: 2146
Loc: Sale, Central Gippsland, S/E V...
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Just resurrecting this old thread and wondering if many others still have some Dorpers.
We have a dozen straight Dorper ewes that lambed at 115% this year.
After having owned/farmed fine and med. wool Merinos and 1st cross ewes the Dorpers are quite surprising in being so constitutionally tough. Grab most sheep by the nose from behind and lift up to seat them on their rump and it's all done in seconds, not quite so with Dorpers which will walk backwards on the hind legs as you try to sit them down. Strongest sheep I've handled !
Tougher than 1st X ewes, (Border Leicester/Merino) and will milk on for the lambs for longer.
While the maiden ewes usually have single lambs most of the old ewes have twins.
Killed the first of the lambs from this years lambing and looking at them thought they might dress maybe 16 / 18 kg.
The two better lambs hung up at 21kg which is pretty good off dry pasture and just 5 to 6 months old.
Son home for dinner last night, Mums lamb roast was outstanding and has earnt the Dorpers another tick for the breed.
An excellent small holding meat sheep, just make sure the fences are suitable.
How are others finding the Dorper breed of sheep ?
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#1293651 - 26/12/2014 23:31
Re: Meat sheep breed info(dorper/damara etc.)
[Re: adon]
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Registered: 16/11/2014
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Loc: Sale, Central Gippsland, S/E V...
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Never truer words said adon, smart & strong & they mob up and face off at a strange dog or something that might threaten them.
I yard them up when changing paddocks, try to quieten them a bit, once they settle down in the yards they are better, when first in off their woolly heads..lol
Half of our ewes were 6 y.o. when I bought them and successfully lambed this year and did a great job on the lambs.
Mouths still good so we'll give them another year. What age did you run yrs to.
This time of yr it's no loss not having to chase fly strike also.
Hope the rain comes for you adon, we're doing OK in Gippsland for a change although compared to parts of West NSW / QLD we saw last year have we it easy here most of the time by comparison.
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