#1076412 - 15/02/2012 00:12
Why is the wet season so dry this year?
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Cloud Gazer
Registered: 20/02/2007
Loc: Cairns
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Hi all, Havnt posted in a while but just wondering what your expert views of why the Cairns tropics is having such a dry wet season? Alot of people around here are still expecting it to arrive in a week or so or even early March. Just seems so unusual with La Nina here. Thoughts?
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#1076454 - 15/02/2012 10:10
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: pgaluck]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 31/01/2011
Loc: Cairns
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Meteorologist Allan Beattie said the monsoon that typically hovers over the Far North had yet to make its way south from Papua New Guinea.
"The monsoon has been well and truly north of Cairns. That’s why it’s been so dry," he said.
"It’s certainly not indicative of the wet season."
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#1076461 - 15/02/2012 10:45
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: OzCyChaser Trav]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 20/10/2011
Loc: Sydney North Shore
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I'm a non-expert, but here's my two cents' worth. This year, we've had a lot of rain down South, with inland lows and troughs dragging moisture from the tropics and squeezing it out over the Central and Southern inland of Qld, NSW and even as far as Victoria. I remember a couple of weeks ago the Monsoon Trough showed on the surface chart actually intercepted the SA border and almost made it into NSW, apparently dragged down by a significant inland low. I don't remember seeing this happen before. Perhaps rain that you would normally get in the North has been dragged further South this year - an effect of La Nina perhaps? Anyway, you are welcome to take the rain back. We've had more than enough down here.
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#1076465 - 15/02/2012 11:07
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Steve777]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 5/10/2002
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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Around the ACT region, and further inland, we're wondering where all this La Nina rain is, too. It seems to be camped in the QLD/NSW border zone.
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#1076480 - 15/02/2012 11:50
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: ant]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 7/02/2007
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
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What Trav said and yes we are way down on average for December, January and Februray this year and for us in teh Townsville region the Wet is a just a Slightly Moist.
We are also 7 to 8 cyclones short of the average and that has a large effect on weather all over Australia too.
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#1076497 - 15/02/2012 13:02
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Sir BoabTree]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 18/10/2010
Loc: Rockhampton (Berserker)
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Well this morning I saw the first signs of the start of Autum, Wet season is just about fried.
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#1076499 - 15/02/2012 13:08
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Sir BoabTree]
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Weatherzone Addict
Registered: 10/07/2006
Loc: Double Bay, Sydney, NSW
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Seems La Nina is no match for the law of averages, after so many above average wets your finally getting a below average one. I agree with Steve, you’re welcome to take back the constant rain/cloud at any time.
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#1076555 - 15/02/2012 15:42
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Sandfly]
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Weatherzone Addict
Registered: 17/05/2006
Loc: Yeppoon (Mulambin) QLD , Pert...
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Well this morning I saw the first signs of the start of Autum, Wet season is just about fried. What were the signs ? Here in Yeppoon November was extremely dry, December was above average, January was just 2 mm below average and Feb - Well fingers crossed some rain falls before the end of the month.
Edited by Vinnie (15/02/2012 15:43)
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#1076805 - 16/02/2012 10:39
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: adon]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 20/10/2011
Loc: Sydney North Shore
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Thinking a bit more about it, I am pretty sure that it is a case of the rain being drawn further south, although not everyone down south has benfited / suffered from this. If you look at a typical surface chart for this summer, you see a belt of high pressure at around 45 deg South, with a vigorous SE-E stream onto the NSW coast, bringing showers, especially to the coast and ranges North from about the Illawarra. These showers don't make it too far inland, but sometimes inland troughs and lows drag moisture down from the tropics into the inland of Southern Qld and NE NSW, giving those areas lots of rain. And often a trough forms off the NE NSW coast, brining more rain to the coast and ranges east of the Divide, especially between about Ballina and Newcastle. Meanwhile up North, there seems to be very little happening. The surface chart shows few or no isobars up there, so the trade winds are weak and there are no / few lows or troughs to trigger very much. So, it seems (in my inexpert opinion) that the South has appropriated the trade winds and the moisture, hence the rain. As I said above, North Queensland is welcome to have it back.
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#1077754 - 19/02/2012 10:44
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Things]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 19/01/2007
Loc: Mount Macedon, VIC
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The answer to the OP is natural climatic variation. La Nina doesn't automatically mean it will be wet everywhere, there is a lot of variation involved. The La Nina this year is fairly weak and not a patch on the mega La Nina we had last summer where there was massive flooding in QLD and VIC. BTW, just looking at the obs and Cairns was running at around 70mm below average for January and February which is roughly 86% and is hardly what I'd call significantly dry. February so far is running pretty dry at just 169mm so far but it is already more than 5 times the 30.4mm record low Feb rainfall received in 1990. The models are predicting another 50mm+ for the rest of the month for Cairns but that could easily end up a lot more with just a slight shift of the variables.
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#1078715 - 20/02/2012 22:43
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Cyclone]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 1/02/2011
Loc: travelling East coast of OZ
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The Wet season is evident Just not along the coast. some of your central regions have been getting the tropical moisture by the looks of the rainfall chart below and some records broken We have just witnessed some very hefty tropical infeed streaming inland from the GOC during the last active monsoon period. Many records broken.. Wondering if the next active phase will be just as strong for someone In 2006 no cyclones crossed the east coast of Australia. ( bom annual climate statement) if l remember correctly Here is your JAN deciles. wet season is there. some incredible rainfall totals broken coolongatta 529mm for example some monsoonal totals with moisture streaming down from the northern tropics I think most of the cyclones so far have been in the Indian ocean.
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#1078742 - 20/02/2012 23:13
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Sandfly]
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 7/02/2007
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
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Well this morning I saw the first signs of the start of Autum, Wet season is just about fried. Signs of Autumn. 1) Increase in Victorian Registed Caravans, Winnebagoes or anything travelling at 20kph below posted speed limit. 2) Old farts out numbering bogans in places like 1770, Rockhampton, Emerald, Townsville and Cairns etc 3) Sales boom in Crocks and sun tan lotion. 4) Mobility scooters with Come on the Crows stickers clogging footpaths 5) People asking for directions to somewhere called Safeway 6) Questions about how come we don't sell booze in supermarkets. 7) Advertisments for the Show and Townsville V8's. There are probably some others about cloud formations, leaves turning colour, drops in temprature and humdity, increases in rainfall, changes in wind strength and direction but I reckon they are all a bit of a myth. 
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#1078750 - 20/02/2012 23:28
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Sir BoabTree]
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Weatherzone Addict
Registered: 28/01/2011
Loc: James Cook University, Townsvi...
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#1078783 - 21/02/2012 02:00
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: MathewTownsend]
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Weather Freak
Registered: 13/01/2011
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You could tell mother nature that summer ends in 8days, though i doubt she'll pay much attention.
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#1079595 - 22/02/2012 13:21
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Flood]
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Cloud Gazer
Registered: 26/01/2012
Loc: Colinton (near Kilcoy) SEQ
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Well, we have only had 5mms this month and normally we have over 100 so seems pretty darn dry to me!
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#1079735 - 22/02/2012 21:14
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Things]
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Lightning man/moderator
Registered: 10/05/2001
Loc: Bayview, Darwin, NT land of th...
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In fairness to the comment the Monsoon Trough has made one BRIEF move south and that is it. Most of the actual true monsoon has been well north, even north of Darwin, has also been pretty dry here this wet as well. PNG has been slammed all season. The problem with the comment is that there is a difference between the monsoon trough and the monsoon itself. TS 
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#1083464 - 1/03/2012 12:09
Re: Why is the wet season so dry this year?
[Re: Cyclone]
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Weatherzone Addict
Registered: 17/05/2006
Loc: Yeppoon (Mulambin) QLD , Pert...
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November 2011 was very dry here, December 2011 only slighly above average and January 2012 was near average but Feb 2012 25mm below average.
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