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#1097575 - 03/04/2012 10:15 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: davidg]
DaveM Offline
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Loc: Bathurst NSW about 700 m asl
Hey DG - yeah Cradle is the best, it's even better the more you walk the various tracks in the area. I love getting up near Kitchen Hut where you see Barn Bluff come into view and the view from Marions down into Crater Lake which would also be starting to show the turning of Fagus (Deciduous Beech) Australia's only native deciduous. It only grows in alpine areas of Tas.

The best view is from the top of the Cradle peak but it's a long day doing that. Hansesns peak and the Dove Lake walk are also great.

You better get your mate to some real hands on snow smile Quick trip to Oberon perhaps one snowy weekend.

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#1097576 - 03/04/2012 10:16 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: davidg]
avalon Offline
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Same thing here with the Silver Birch. Contrary to popular belief they dont like lots of water or rain and they definitely dont like humid climates. They can cope with relatively low rainfall and poor drainage is the kiss of death.

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#1097583 - 03/04/2012 11:05 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: avalon]
DaveM Offline
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That may explain why I lost one last year it was after several very wet months (and one tree took off in spring, the other did nothing and we realized it had died. It was in the lowest and wettest part of the yard. Thanks Avalon - reckon you've solved my query.

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#1097587 - 03/04/2012 11:39 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: Ron W at Walcha]
PeterB Offline
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Registered: 04/07/2003
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Loc: Armidale NSW 1000m asl
Originally Posted By: Ron W at Walcha
Light frost & ice on cars and 0.8 in Walcha.(2.1 at Salisbury Plains). Golden polplars outside my window, at the peak of their autumn display.

Same with the trees in Armidale - very spectacular autumn colours.
Min at the Armidale city weather station this morning was 3.1C, the lowest so far this year.
-1.9C on the grass meaning there may have been a very light frost.

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#1097588 - 03/04/2012 11:40 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
ant Offline
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Ant same here - the Silver Birch leaves just sort of shrivelling and falling off without any great yellowing at my place. But most other species now really getting into it.

eg Claret ashes half maroon & half green - stunning.


The pears around the CBR airport are almost through their autumn thing, bright yellow. And anything that turns red is doing so! Looking out over eastern Canberra though, I can see poplars just starting to tinge yellow at the top, but there's still more green than yellows and reds at this stage. Autumn is weird, again. Some trees are going for it, others haven't even really started, and there's no real fallen leaf action yet.

My birches are just ignoring it. During the cold stuff in Jan/Feb they started up, then stopped as it warmed, and now they're just hanging, nothing's really falling off, unless the parrots nip it off (which they're doing). Ditto the Chinese Elms, still very green and nothing's falling barring parrot vandalism.

But down near the dam, there's a maple-y thing that's gone bright red.

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#1097590 - 03/04/2012 11:43 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: avalon]
ant Offline
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Originally Posted By: avalon
Same thing here with the Silver Birch. Contrary to popular belief they dont like lots of water or rain and they definitely dont like humid climates. They can cope with relatively low rainfall and poor drainage is the kiss of death.


They are very tough trees. But! The biggest silver birch I've ever seen is a monster at my parents' place, it self-sowed itself some years back, quickly found the semi-legal septic tank installed for the nursery staff toilet, and went ballistic. It dwarfs every other tree around the place, most much older than it. The trunk is massive. Clearly it quite likes the septic tank.

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#1097596 - 03/04/2012 12:16 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: ant]
DaveM Offline
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A lot of trees started around here in early Feb - then it got wet and much of the colour change slowed quite a lot. As it dried out it started up again - now it's well underway althought there is lots of variation as to the extent from place to place. To anyone driving through here though it's clearly autumn.

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#1097605 - 03/04/2012 13:22 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: davidg]
CoastalStorm22 Offline
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Originally Posted By: davidg
Originally Posted By: DaveM
LOL this is a dead set repeat of last year CS22 smile

Yeah CS22 DavidG spot on - I just posted in the Tassie forum about the change. Mate just GO, it's a great place any time but it's really magic if it actually snows a bit.

This time you HAVE to go - no woosing out this time smile

You will have a great time up there, the whole area is great, headwaters of the mighty Eucumbene, Tumut and Murrumbidgee Rivers, old Gold fields, deep/steep valleys, snow gums, mate just do it. smile I wish I was going there.


Couldnt agree more. Spent a rained out day in Winter just driving around checking out the various huts etc. a couple of years ago, even if it does rain (so long as its not torrential) its still a fun place to explore. Obviously clear blue skies is what we all hope for but the area is so diverse there's plenty to do in all weather conditions. I reckon wait until thursday to make the final descicion weatherwise.

Oh yeah DaveM, my mate from work had an excellent time around Cradle Mountain. A couple of small patches of snow remained in sheltered spots up until tuesday/wednesday last week which he was quite pleased to experience (he still hasnt seen snow proper! Unthinkable i know). From all reports (and FB pics) its an amazing place to visit. Ive already started planning my own trip down there for next year.


Yes the pressure is on to go, lol! Are there some good sheltered spots amongst the trees up there? Or are the sites mostly exposed, Davidg?
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#1097618 - 03/04/2012 14:56 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: CoastalStorm22]
DaveM Offline
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Loc: Bathurst NSW about 700 m asl
Yep you can easliy camp in amongst the snow gums just near the dam. Because it's a dam it's obviously in a valley situation and is relatively sheltered from Southerly winds. It's truly a lovely spot - go on you can do it this time smile

If all else fails escape to the pub in Adaminaby or the Snowy Mountains Motel (which we used to manage for a while)

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#1097621 - 03/04/2012 15:33 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
stormymick Offline
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ant keep an eye out over the airport we have a drama about unfold

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#1097622 - 03/04/2012 15:46 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: stormymick]
davidg Offline
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Hey CS22, what DaveM said haha. I have a few pics from mine and AaronD's trip down there a couple of years ago. Ill PM you some pics. Definately going camping down there again this year. Had an awesome multiday snowshoeing trek across the main range late last june so really looking forward to heading out again, even if it is just some lazy camping in the snowgums.

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#1097628 - 03/04/2012 16:37 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: davidg]
DaveM Offline
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If people realised how much of a buzz snow camping can be (properly equipped of course) they would never do anything else. My absolute best walks in Tassie and the Snowies were in VERY snowy conditions - just magic!!

Snow is usually drier than rain for walking - i'd prefer it any time. Although it can make it hard to find a track when fresh snow falls and bends scrub over the track etc. Tests the skills a bit but great fun.

DG how durable do you find the snow shoes? I've heard mixed reports from some people?

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#1097629 - 03/04/2012 16:45 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
ant Offline
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Snowshoes are great things, I hope they get cheaper here.

Missed Stormymick's drama, damn it. I'm on the wrong side of the building...

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#1097632 - 03/04/2012 17:05 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: ant]
DaveM Offline
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What was it? Very intriguing.

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#1097667 - 03/04/2012 21:27 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
ant Offline
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I'm waiting to find out! something aviation-related. I hope he wasn't crashing and that was his last communication with the world!

Bloody forecast for the long weekend is flip-flopping all over the place. Not looking forward to this nasty cold windy blast. It would be good if it could hold off til Tuesday, but it won't.

It's stinking hot tonight, still above 20c inside with the windows open. NO wind, and the air must be humid as while I was pegging the clothes out an hour ago, I could see fat contrails above and hear the jets way above. I can still hear one now, and these are not planes visiting canberra.

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#1097692 - 03/04/2012 23:41 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: ant]
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Loc: Melbourne (Belgrave); Corryong...
Looks like it'll get cold enough for snow above 1800m in the Snowy Mountains on Monday into Tuesday... certainly one intense cold front set to hit SE Australia this Easter weekend! grin

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#1097718 - 04/04/2012 08:55 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: aussiestormfreak]
DaveM Offline
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Loc: Bathurst NSW about 700 m asl
Well this morning EC, GFS & Access all quite differetn to each other - so take your pick re next Monday/Tuesday. I'm hoping GFS is whacko. Access looks great.

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#1097731 - 04/04/2012 10:33 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
ant Offline
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This sucks, now the forecast has Friday as the only warm day, with Saturday and Sunday down in the lowest 20s with "clearing showers" both days. Then the COLD comes Monday. Ugh.

It would have been wonderful to retain this gorgeous warm weather all Easter. This is just about perfect weather, if it rained every night it would be completely perfect.

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#1097736 - 04/04/2012 11:06 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: ant]
Ron W at Walcha Offline
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Loc: Walcha. NSW Northern Tableland...
April certainly has delivered autumn to the southern end of the NT's at least with overnight mins. Our nearest aws at Woolbrook has an average min of 4.0 for the first 4 days of April. Walcha typically is 1-2 degrees lower which concurs with my obs.

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#1097739 - 04/04/2012 11:24 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: Ron W at Walcha]
DaveM Offline
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Sure is a frosty spot up there Ron.

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