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#1087541 - 10/03/2012 12:50 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: JimmyGray]
Severely Tall Offline
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While ODIs are the main focus for some, I'm really keen to look at the Test Series. Ponting and Cowan looking in good form - strong signs for the carribean. Punter has two tons in the past two shield innings and Cowan has put one on the board in the last game. Lets hope they can continue the good form and carry it into the series against the West Indies. Big question for the lineup though who do we want in the squad.

Prospective Lineup -
Warner
Cowan
Watson (not that I like him in there but noone has stepped up - he is out of form).
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Wade
Siddle
Pattinson
Hilfenhaus
Lyon

Pretty damn strong lineup really, especially with Harris, Starc ready to roll on the sidelines. IMHO Haddin shouldn't be touring as he is clearly inferior and out of form compared to Wade - but as they say its harder to get yourself out of the test team than into it. Technically speaking Watson is probably the best option for a number 3, despite not really having the record for it. Still he used to play that position in shield so may be worth a shot to fit him in. Offers some good part time bowling options as well as a strong core attack. With Wade instead of Haddin I think the batting is a bit deeper and more consistent - he is less of a flat track bully.



Edited by Severely Tall (10/03/2012 12:50)
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#1087581 - 10/03/2012 16:10 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: Severely Tall]
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John - the last 2 posts were about the tests?
I've already mentioned Ponting & Cowan...

As I said yesterday Jackson Bird would be the bolter for Pattinson's spot if he doesn't come up from injury. Even more so after today getting another 6 wickets (11 for the match) and a HAT-TRICK!
He's now the leading wicket-taker this year in the Shield, and has the most wickets in a debut season in the Shield since Joel Garner....
Really on that form - he MUST go to the Windies in the squad at least.



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#1087610 - 10/03/2012 18:15 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: teckert]
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It's certainly been a good year for Tassie cricket, unlucky not to win the Ryobi Cup and now in the Shield final. I must admit I haven't been following domestic cricket that closely (lack of Foxtel will do that). Looks like the Bird is the word, and oh, he's a New South Welshman wink.

There's a good test match in progress in Dunedin atm, New Zealand need another 264 runs on the final day with 8 wickets remaining. In true Dunedin style, the forecast isn't that great for tomorrow though.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-south-africa-2012/engine/current/match/520603.html



Edited by Southerly_Buster (10/03/2012 18:17)

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#1087988 - 12/03/2012 03:54 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: HumphreyBear]
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The final day washout means England will retain our world number 1 ranking as South Africa needed a 3-0 whitewash to overtake us.

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#1087992 - 12/03/2012 06:53 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: UK Steve]
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Originally Posted By: UK Steve
The final day washout means England will retain our world number 1 ranking as South Africa needed a 3-0 whitewash to overtake us.

Yet another case of rain saving England (and probably NZ) poke

I have a running joke with a few English friends that every drop of precipitation has a British passport.

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#1088786 - 14/03/2012 13:42 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: HumphreyBear]
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Test squad announced:

Michael Clarke (c)
Shane Watson (vc)
Michael Beer
Ed Cowan
Peter Forrest
Brad Haddin
Ryan Harris
Ben Hilfenhaus
Mike Hussey
Nathan Lyon
James Pattinson
Ricky Ponting
Peter Siddle
Mitchell Starc
Matthew Wade
David Warner

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#1092261 - 19/03/2012 09:07 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: teckert]
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Good win by the Windies this morning. Their first win over Australia since 2006!

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#1094100 - 21/03/2012 09:01 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: teckert]
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Another win for the West Indies.LOL Well it was a tied game at 220 runs each but they will be seeing it as a pretty good result. The Aussie Batters are really letting the side down.

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#1094130 - 21/03/2012 09:59 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: Lindsay Knowles]
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The West Indies will be kicking themselves after throwing away that win. They had 3 balls remaining, I wouldn't have gone for a quick single unless I was 100% sure I'd make it.

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#1095135 - 23/03/2012 19:25 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: UK Steve]
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Haddin declared he's not going to take part for the Test Series against the West Indies next month with ongoing family issues. So it looks likely Wade will make his debut. Hopefully he can rediscover his form, has been terrible so far in the ODI's.
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#1095153 - 23/03/2012 20:48 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: Squeako da Magnifico.]
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I dont know why but I like Wade more as a T20 player, and for some reason I feel he's suited to tests aswell, anyway we don't lose anything from Haddin-> Wade batting wise because Haddin was playing crap anyway, but atleast we get some decent glovework.

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#1095263 - 24/03/2012 08:22 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: TheAnt]
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A great win to the windies. Heaps of sixes hit. Aussies are really looking second rate

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#1098936 - 11/04/2012 13:02 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: Lindsay Knowles]
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So is anybody interested in the test series? The Aussies are now favourites after an unbeaten 77 last wicket partnership between Ryan Harris and Nathan Lyon. WI currently reeling at 5/71, that's a lead of 114.

In other news, England won the last test of its series with Sri Lanka to retain the #1 ranking. The Indian Premier League (IPL) is also on (if anyone gives a toss about it anyway). Gilchrist is still going around and looking very much his 40 years.

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#1099369 - 14/04/2012 05:18 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: HumphreyBear]
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I saw the end of Australia's chase on Wednesday night. Excellent decision by Clarke to declare behind to give his team the time to win. Some captains would have been content to let the game drift away to a draw. Not all bad for the West Indies as they were competitive for most of the game and fought back at the end despite the defeat.

I haven't even watched a single ball of the IPL so far.

I suspect England will find it much easier against the West Indies when they come here next month. Last time, they were unable to cope with the cool early season conditions and were easily beaten. I'll be at Edgbaston for Day 1 of the 3rd test, hopefully it will stay dry and reasonably warm.

England v South Africa in July and August, it should be a great series. Sadly there are only 3 tests and not 5. Oddly, we do face Australia in a 5 match ODI series for no real reason.

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#1099521 - 14/04/2012 22:32 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: UK Steve]
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The West Indies have been competitive in almost all of the matches so far which is a credit to them. This is the best I've seen them play in a long while.

Continual inter-island squabbles and players like Chris Gayle- who are loyal to the IPL rather than the West Indies- hamper progress in the long run. Governance has long been a problem for West Indies cricket, it's just that they were blessed with great players through the 70's and 80's which tended to whitewash this tombstone. This is intrinsic because the West Indies isn't a geopolitical entity: to whom do loyalties lie?

3 tests isn't enough for England and South Africa, but better than the measly 2 we played late last year (which, of course, ended in a 1-1 stalemate). The Ashes will remain the only 5 test series for the foreseeable future- lets hope it in turn does not succumb to cutbacks in future.

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#1099732 - 16/04/2012 12:55 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: HumphreyBear]
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Once again Australia are looking second rate at 5 for 208 from 90 overs. I am sure they will find a way to win the game but they need to get better before they play some good sides. Saying that I would have bet my house on India rolling them last summer and look at what happened.

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#1099815 - 16/04/2012 22:50 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: Lindsay Knowles]
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The reality is, it's never easy to beat the West Indies in the Caribbean.

We are actually doing well to be 1-0 up.

Last (Northern Hemisphere) season, India struggled to a 1-0 test series victory over there after scraping through to a 3-2 win in the ODI series.
Pakistan went over there just before India and tied a 2 match test series 1-1.
England lost a test match there by over an innings in 2009 just before they beat us in the Ashes series.

They may be pretty easy to deal with at home but over there it is almost like going to the subcontinent. Very different pitches, very different climate and a very different atmosphere over there. Also about as far away from AUS as you can get and coming pretty much straight after a very long Australian summer, they haven't had much of a break at all, it's been non stop.


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#1100180 - 19/04/2012 07:29 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: ColdsnapIII]
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It will be interesting to see what Australia do tomorrow. Will they take a risk and declare with a lead of 200 and leave West Indies with a slim chance of victory should they decide to take a chance?

Originally Posted By: ColdsnapIII


England lost a test match there by over an innings in 2009 just before they beat us in the Ashes series.


I remember that series well. England were unlucky not to win that series as West Indies narrowly escaped with a draw in a couple of the tests in a similar way to England's escape in the Cardiff Ashes test.

In the 5th test of that series (on the same ground), England were in a similar position to what Australia are in now (3 wickets down with a lead near 100). England set West Indies 240 to win in 66 overs and came very close to winning.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/wiveng2009/engine/match/352664.html

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#1101534 - 27/04/2012 08:41 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: UK Steve]
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2 notable events overnight in the test.

Shane Shillingford became the first West Indies spin bowler to claim 10 wickets in a match since Lance Gibbs against England at Old Trafford in 1966.

Shivnarine Chanderpaul has become the 10th batsman and the second West Indian to pass 10,000 runs in Test matches.

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#1101589 - 27/04/2012 13:43 Re: Cricket 2011/2012 [Re: teckert]
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I've been watching quite a lot of this test series since I've been on the late shifts at work and there's nothing else worth watching late at night..

It's quite impressive how competitive the West Indies have been so far. None of the tests have been completely one sided which is good.

I reckon Darren Bravo could be the next big thing for the West Indies? He's only played 16 tests so far in his career and already has over 1000 runs. He reminds me a little bit of Brian Lara, both in his appearance and style, and he's only 23 too!

Even though I'm an Australian, Brian Lara was always my favourite player to watch when I was growing up. Anyway, It's just good to see the West Indies might finally be on the way to being a competitive team again and I'm looking forward to see how Bravo evolves over the next couple of years.

What an achievement by Chanderpaul too. Now in the top 10 test batsmen of all time.
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