#1110171 - 20/06/2012 09:27
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: Southerly_Buster]
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Jindabyne Ap also dropped to almost -9 this morning, must be some burst pipes down that way this morning!
Edited by CoastalStorm22 (20/06/2012 09:28) Edit Reason: typo
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#1110175 - 20/06/2012 09:48
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: DaveM]
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Yep, can't see much on here: http://www.centralwestflying.com/wx/bthwc.phpIn these conditions, places like Lake George can harbour fog the entire day, especially with an approaching warm "front" from the NW.
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#1110176 - 20/06/2012 09:55
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: Steve777]
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Good morning Teddy - I suspect that there might be two different problems - one which has resulted in under-reporting, which is being addressed as per Fujita's post. But there seems to be a separate problem of apparently 'phantom' readings of 0.2 popping up on sunny days, e.g. one last month (my post of May 28) where the 0.2mm apparently fell out of a clear sky at lunch time when the humidity was under 40%. I'll email the BOM about this apparently separate issue and see what they have to say. Obs Hill has a backup gauge and its readings will be substituted during the problem period. More generally, very small rainfall amounts are prone to two separate problems. One is spurious 0.2mm tips in the tipping bucket rain gauge (sometimes these might be from debris - I was once 50 metres away from a gauge when one happened so knew that it had probably been caused by a stone thrown into the gauge by a passing lawnmower), but a bigger one is that manual sites chronically under-report small rainfall amounts - I did a study on this some years back and estimated that somewhere between 50-70% of all daily rainfall totals less than 1mm were not reported. For this reason if I was doing any serious analysis involving rain day counts I would use a threshold of 1mm (at least).
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#1110177 - 20/06/2012 10:15
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: Blair Trewin]
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Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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-6.3c in Canberra this morning. I must have had my worst frost too, the nasturtiums had that horrible cooked-vegetable look, and you could smell them. They were still frosty, will probably be a blubbery mass tonight. Sigh. At least I had sun, down in Canberra it's all foggy and dull. the local news site is asking people for pictures of the frost: http://the-riotact.com/5-4/75699My weather thing said 2.4c was the lowest temperature, it evidently didn't catch the cold air flowing down the hill (to the nasturtiums).
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#1110181 - 20/06/2012 10:46
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: Teddy]
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I got home lateish last night and there was a soft SE breeze blowing, so I hoped it would be OK. Evidently the breeze stopped at some point!
Can see the sun trying to poke through the fog here so any minute now... the sun was doing a good job up my way, car windscreen was all melted and the car was quite warm (I park it where the first dawn rays will hit it on frost-risky nights).
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#1110187 - 20/06/2012 11:35
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: ant]
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#1110189 - 20/06/2012 11:42
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: ant]
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Ant do you have a RH reading?, mine is now 19% lowest for the year!.
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#1110193 - 20/06/2012 12:11
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: GrizzlyBear]
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Still super foggy here in Bathurst - temp about 2 or 3 degrees atm. Not an overly cold start to today but it has not become much warmer.  If it does not get windy, we may not get a full clearance of the fog at all today.
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#1110211 - 20/06/2012 13:43
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: DaveM]
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Up here its been tee-shirt weather since about 10am. The sun is so hot when the RH is low like this and little wind. PS still frost in shady areas at the same time.
Edited by PeterDuke (20/06/2012 13:44)
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#1110212 - 20/06/2012 13:52
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: GrizzlyBear]
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Ant do you have a RH reading?, mine is now 19% lowest for the year!. No, I'm at work and the console is all by itself. The weather station outside here reckons 54%, which is what I'd expect too, with all the fog and frost evaporating, and SE winds. Sun came out a few hours back and is blazing away, we are at a tropical 10.2c.
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#1110224 - 20/06/2012 15:47
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: ant]
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RH here bottomed at 16% at 2pm which is one of the lowest I have ever seen. Ant I would expect that up at your place the RH would also be very low, like the other peaks. Cooma airport is also very dry this afternoon 18%. Still had some frost in the yard at 3pm.
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#1110274 - 20/06/2012 20:51
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: GrizzlyBear]
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Looking at the console now, I had a fight with it a while back, poked the wrong bit and from then-on it would sound an alarm whenever the outside humidity hit some magic number (usually in the early hours of the morning) so I kept prodding it until it finally gave up (took it weeks), but now it won't show the outside humidity unless it feels like it (and not tonight). Inside's quite high though. Barometer's been plummeting through the day evidently. Incoming thingy seems to be exciting it.
I might put the console outside and see if it will show me what the humidity is there.
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#1110283 - 20/06/2012 21:39
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: ant]
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Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
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Didn't work. It's higher outside!
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#1110285 - 20/06/2012 22:28
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: GrizzlyBear]
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RH here bottomed at 16% at 2pm which is one of the lowest I have ever seen. Ant I would expect that up at your place the RH would also be very low, like the other peaks. Cooma airport is also very dry this afternoon 18%. Still had some frost in the yard at 3pm. Amazing that you had frost in the yard PD after a max of 10.0 (we had 10.4 here) That sun did feel warm as the afternoon went on - felt very warm around 2-3pm. An unusual feel today & the RH (bottomed out here at 25%) & dew point values confirm that. Very interesting that the sun seems to feel warmer when the humidity is low (though there is probably a completely logical scientific explanation for this phenomenon). My mate from Sydney reckons that the Upper Blue Mountains are cold & damp - sometimes our temps aren't that low compared to other areas but maybe he is onto something. I lived in England for 6 years so doesn't feel that cold & damp to me.
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#1110299 - 21/06/2012 00:18
Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather
[Re: aslaws]
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The wind is really getting up here. Been in the 20s, now into the 30s, (edit mid 30s) and swinging W-NW-N. And the temperature has been going up for a while now. It's 5c so maybe we had our minimum a while back (3 point something). (5.1c now... tomorrow might be quite balmy before the rain arrives).
Huh, here's me skiting and down in Canberra, it's 7.3c!
Edited by ant (21/06/2012 00:19) Edit Reason: Canberra BBQ weather
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