#1007821 - 25/08/2011 18:13
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
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Hobart looks set to have its warmest August on record, which is indicative of how few fronts there have been. And Adelaide is having a very mild end to winter as well. Perth is having its 'Wettest' winter in eight years, which is more indicative of just how bad its been over there for years and years now.
Will be interesting to see how things develop over the next decade. Interesting times. Quite a few folk were claiming this year would be a pretty cold and snowy year but not to be.
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#1007825 - 25/08/2011 18:48
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
Registered: 25/11/2002
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Wow Bliz @ Hobart. Hows their rainfall looking and the west coast of Tassie? To add - I am at the end of my driest winter in a decade. almost 100mm short of the average. Considering our winter av is only 350 odd mm that's fairly significant I reckon.
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#1007833 - 25/08/2011 19:49
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Mins count as much as the max temps I am afraid, no excuses will be pardoned from me. Interestingly its often the ex-urban areas in the hills where the positive anomalies are even worse because the true warmth of the airmass's is measured there.
Looks like this August has fallen in the small league of most snowless Augusts like 1995,1982 and maybe one or two others. However before 1982 there was the bumper 1981 and before Aug/1995 there was 2 month of very solid winter far far colder than this year. The frequency of warm month and warm years is certainly on a one way slope upwards, Aug 2009 was pretty bad too, but it was worse in the northern half of NSW with Armialde getting to an utterly incomprehensible 27 I think. Yes cold front coldness and frequency is certainly on the decrease as the years go by no two ways about it. Doubt we will ever see another cold winter.
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#1007842 - 25/08/2011 20:42
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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2006 and 2007 were very warm too Coldsnap I remember temps touching 30c in NW Vic end of August in one of those Years and 24-25-26c in Melbourne
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#1007845 - 25/08/2011 20:47
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Ah found it.. It was 2007.
Melbourne Max temp..
August 25th. 22.6c. August 26th. 22.7c. August 27th. 25.7c. August 28th. 20.7c. August 29th. 19.2c. August 30th. 23.9c.
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#1007847 - 25/08/2011 20:50
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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highest temp for Melbourne this month was 23.2c back on the 2nd August apart from that we have had "the other warmer" days being around 18-21c.
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#1007894 - 26/08/2011 06:27
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
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Thanks guys, interesting stuff. 2009 and 2010 were possibly the worst winters in over one hundred years for cold fronts across the Blue Mountains. This year started off as an improvement but has declined notably since late July.
I still think nature will respond well into September but we will have to wait and see.
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#1010230 - 06/09/2011 10:09
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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According to Blair Trewin Melbourne has now gone 18 days without measurable rain. This is the second-longest rainless spell on record in August or September in Melbourne and the longest since 1899. The record will take some beating - it's 29 days.
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#1012400 - 15/09/2011 19:17
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Yes its been shocking now for all of August and September, that makes only 1/2 a winter that we had in June/July and even that 1/2 was slightly warmer than normal. Its funny last year we also had 1/2 a winter but the exact opposite in Aug/Sep and no snow Jun/Jul. For temps last year the second half was marginally cooler than normal but only slightly.
So in summary I guess that in future we should only ever expect to get 1/2 a winter, the only unknown is which 1/2?. But with the 2 halves possibly not even overlapping it means there is not a single month that you can be sure will experience some winter snow, that makes planning a trip to go skiing ever harder and near impossible.
Although I gave this winter a mild pass, I am struggling not to take away those marks and just call it a fail. The winter may hold on to its license to be called winter by the skin of its teeth. But its definitely back on its red P's and could fail at any time.
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#1013071 - 19/09/2011 15:18
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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The pre frontal trough that has just gone through Horsham has anything but disappeared. At 14.24 the wind speed reached 67 KPH. Gusts were to 89 kph Temp was 29.3C and has dropped to 25.2C at 1500 hours and the pressure is still falling Winds are still north at 42 kph indicating the actual front still has to come through here.
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#1013334 - 20/09/2011 07:59
Re: Cold fronts disappearing across the SE of Australia
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Meteorological Motor Mouth
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PD's post in the snow thread seems to suggest that they are disappearing.
'Today’s 18.0 in Cabramurra is the highest for September in more than 15 years (or longer?). highest in this time was 17.5 on Sept 27th 08.'
Its a windy front but a pretty weak one up this way for September.
Edited by Blizzard (20/09/2011 08:00)
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