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#224358 - 12/04/2009 14:39 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
ColdFront Offline
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Registered: 29/06/2008
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Loc: The Beach.
Maybe they were all extral large people RG? It would also explain the need for the whole runway.
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#224359 - 12/04/2009 14:48 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Dale Small Offline
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Registered: 18/11/2001
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Loc: Greymouth - West Coast, NZ..
It was all the bling on board the craft, youll know what I mean if youve ever flown Emirates! :p

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#224360 - 12/04/2009 15:13 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Probably true on both fronts CF, and Dale
Least it didnt end in disaster, not matter how safe we are in Australia, ive always thought a major crash in Australia would be that of a foreign airline.
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#224361 - 14/04/2009 20:57 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
i flew on one of the embraer E170's from Townsville to Canberra last week. what a lovely aircraft to fly in. totally enjoyed the flight. 4seats across, 2x2. nice and quiet. flew very smooth. and decent leg room to boot.

i booked seats on the right hand side for landing at canberra, alas we went around and landed from the south, so i was on the wrong side! on the 737 to melb same deal. was on the right, but the plane banked left on a northward take off and missed a perfect view on central canberra once we swung to the south.
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#224362 - 14/04/2009 22:23 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Registered: 19/03/2006
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Loc: Freshwater, QLD
Quote:
Originally posted by Mick10:
i flew on one of the embraer E170's from Townsville to Canberra last week. what a lovely aircraft to fly in. totally enjoyed the flight. 4seats across, 2x2. nice and quiet. flew very smooth. and decent leg room to boot.

i booked seats on the right hand side for landing at canberra, alas we went around and landed from the south, so i was on the wrong side! on the 737 to melb same deal. was on the right, but the plane banked left on a northward take off and missed a perfect view on central canberra once we swung to the south.
Sorry about that because I think I suggested right side seats F. South approach landing would need left side seats A to view Parliament House. You should have changed to left side for take off for the swing south after a north take off.. Hope you had a good flight anyway.

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#224363 - 14/04/2009 22:37 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Mick10 Offline
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
oh no its wasnt a problem mate. was a great flight down as i said the E170 is a great little plane. loved it.
canberra airport is a hole though, thought it would be pretty nice, not even a decent place to eat lunch while waiting for our next plane. new terminal will hopefully be better.
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#224364 - 14/04/2009 23:10 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Registered: 19/03/2006
Posts: 932
Loc: Freshwater, QLD
It is a bus terminal for interstate public servants. The Qantas lounge is cool but for the casual traveller the rest of the terminal is the pits given that it is the National Capital. Even the server persons (read political correct waiters) at the coffee shop move less as quick than public servants.

New Terminal? Infrastructure package? The whole precinct is privately owned, heredity of a local sheep farming family, including the airport itself. Terry Snow leases everything back to the Fed. including the shopping complex and Government offices. Amazing stuff.

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#224365 - 21/04/2009 21:00 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
tornadochaser_76 Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2005
Posts: 2713
Loc: Dark Side of the Moon
We came in waaaaay too low into PER yesterday - pilot had it on manual aswell.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFaBLxUIZI4

(P.S - LANGUAGE WARNING!!!!)

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#224366 - 21/04/2009 21:17 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
garyk Offline
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After the recent crash in Amsterdam, there is apparently a monitoring of the computer landing computer altimeter on all 737-800's. The Amsterdam crash may have been caused by a computer altitude reading being incorrect and therefore changing the plane's oreintation close to landing.

Virginblue pilots are directed to manually check and therefore override any "incorrect" computer altitude readings on landing approaches. They are have been directed to have "hands on" for landing in preparation for overriding the computers readings.

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#224367 - 21/04/2009 23:43 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Mick10 Offline
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
nice vid TC. we had a very rough landing into melbourne from canberra on a virgin 737-800 two weeks back. made alot of people yelp, it even jarred my lower back for a few seconds it was that hard.

i was at sydney for about an hour yesterday changing flights. got to see an emirates a380 taking off, nice to watch in flight. it looks so awkward compared with the 747 though.
i flew a 767-300 from syd-bri. glad i did as i am sure qantas will be in a rush to get rid of the last of them once the economic climate improves. they are getting old now. i wanted to go on one just incase i didnt get the chance again.
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#224368 - 21/04/2009 23:53 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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That was a pretty low approach, cant believe they still fly those old dinosaurs in WA smile
Ive only ever seen the A380 fly over penrith, they seem to just crawl across thr sky, cause there so big.
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#224369 - 22/04/2009 01:43 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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The F100 WAS a top aircraft in its time - but it is past the used by date....Fokkers have a good safety record, but - upon landing in Perth - I am assuming we were hit by a downdraft, as well as underestimation by the pilot, as well as crosswind. THAT was the ROUGHEST landing I've ever experienced, and I have flown 60 odd times?

WAY too low.....the F100 was on low throttle, on a low glidepath, manually controlled with minimum stick to prevent stall...THEN - Pilot had to rev up to max throttle, put the plane up onto the runway threshold, and smacked it into the piano keys like he had made a last minute decision to abort landing....then we bounced, and copped the crosswind.....

If I were a Skywest engineer i'd be checking the undercarriage for metal fatigue!

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#224370 - 22/04/2009 14:48 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Loc: Gorokan NSW 4klm West of the ...
Actually i love flying on all the old birds, my first flight was onboard an Ansett airlines of Australia DC-9, boy were they loud, if you were sitting at the back near the engines, especially on touchdown, tho they dont fly in Australia neither do the 727s, except on overnight cargo trips.
Would also love to fly in a 707, as far as i know there is only one airline in the world, Iran i think that still flies them
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#224371 - 22/04/2009 16:12 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Dale Small Offline
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Registered: 18/11/2001
Posts: 4824
Loc: Greymouth - West Coast, NZ..
HeavyLift still operate the 72's.. remember flying them when operated by TAA & exiting via the rear.. also before they were put out of service on the southern route from Brisbane, my old place being Jimboomba you could still hear them as they were passing over the Laravale VOR & even further again on some nights. Then they introduced the hush kits on the engines & just outright shipped them offshore, except for the freights.

If youre interested, or anyone else for that matter.. cannot remember where I got this link from but it will keep you entertained for hours watching all the traffic around YBBN..

http://www.balus.info/

Click on the ADS-B radar & knock yourself out.

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#224372 - 23/04/2009 14:56 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
rain gauge Offline
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That links mad Dale, and i have been watching for hours cool
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#224373 - 23/04/2009 16:00 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 25465
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
great link dale, thanks.
question though. on the add-b radar page, what does the red, green and orange symbols mean next the to flight details on the right of screen?
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#224374 - 23/04/2009 18:31 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Dale Small Offline
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Registered: 18/11/2001
Posts: 4824
Loc: Greymouth - West Coast, NZ..
Green is in transit, amber I believe on ascent/descent and red obviously a stop.. its not 100% correct, not all traffic displayed on right of screen will show up on radar, a lot of craft are in transit mode. The best time ive found out to see the big guns come through is from 0600 AEST onwards.. all the asian carriers coming into YSSY and YBBN.. the occasional A380 & russian Antonov freights.. only if they are squawking mode S.

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Mode S features
Mode S transponders broadcast information about the aircraft to the Secondary Surveillance Radar (SSR) system, TCAS receivers on board aircraft and to the ADS-B SSR system. This information includes the call sign of the aircraft and/or the transponder's permanent ICAO 24-bit address in the form of a hex code.

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#224375 - 23/04/2009 19:04 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
garyk Offline
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Registered: 19/03/2006
Posts: 932
Loc: Freshwater, QLD
Canberra often has those "bump and yelp" landings.....I have had several and don't know why. I think they were always in 737-***. Maybe this problem has been around for awhile.

But read this:

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/...h-at-amsterdam/

The A-380's are a wonderous sight to see taking off and landing, aren't they?

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#224376 - 23/04/2009 19:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Dale Small Offline
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Registered: 18/11/2001
Posts: 4824
Loc: Greymouth - West Coast, NZ..
Pilot error?
The correct QNH was not punched into the computers?

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#224377 - 23/04/2009 20:22 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
garyk Offline
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Registered: 19/03/2006
Posts: 932
Loc: Freshwater, QLD
So are you saying there is no problem with 737-800 systems or do you know something else?

Ben Sandilands has been around for some time as an aviation reporter. He was at the Daily Telegraph in 1963.

We will see when the final report is delivered. And, I think you may be correst.

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