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#1250054 - 20/03/2014 15:12 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Gives you a bit of a lump in your throat when you hear news like that. It will no doubt be headlines in a few hours if its true and finally end the long search for the where abouts of this missing plane. It would still be a mammoth task in finding out what happened and recovery, if possible, of the Black box. That is of course if all this info is correct.
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#1250060 - 20/03/2014 15:47 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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AMSA on abc24 now. 24 metre object with several smaller pieces around. Up to 4 aircraft on route of which 2 are near the scene. Overcast not ideal conditions. Merchant ship in area. Navy vessel on route but still a few days away. Gnarley news.
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#1250062 - 20/03/2014 15:53 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Just saw that. The fact that they are sending everything they have at their disposal(including naval ships even before conformation from aircraft) to the site certainly suggests they believe there is a very good chance it is the flights wreckage. If it is the wreckage then there is no doubt it flew until running out of fuel

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#1250063 - 20/03/2014 15:56 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Yup this looks grim.

I would most likely say that we have found the wreckage. Scary how long it took to find it.

seems as tho the authorities had a pretty good idea where it could possibly be.

now the real problem arises. How the eff do we get that black box.
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#1250064 - 20/03/2014 15:58 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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What the hell happend on this plane.
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#1250065 - 20/03/2014 16:01 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Yeah to go from flying north to Beijing to crashing 3/4 of the way to antartica.
.????? Either some major on board stuff ups or a pilot who didn't want to be found. Both possible I guess but all very bizarre.
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#1250066 - 20/03/2014 16:02 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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It still wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being some floating debri from a past tsunami.
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#1250068 - 20/03/2014 16:04 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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And if it happens to be the debris from the ill fated flight, the wreckage has been floating about for nearly two weeks, so the actually crash site could take days to find aswell!!
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#1250069 - 20/03/2014 16:07 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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I'm dubious about this. So many false alarms on this one.

As someone mentioned previously in relation to debris being spotted, there is a lot of flotsam out there in our oceans. Ships lose cargo overboard all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_garbage_patch

Apparently over 10,000 shipping containers are lost overboard each year.
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#1250070 - 20/03/2014 16:10 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: Locke]
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Originally Posted By: Locke
I'm dubious about this. So many false alarms on this one.

As someone mentioned previously in relation to debris being spotted, there is a lot of flotsam out there in our oceans. Ships lose cargo overboard all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_garbage_patch

Apparently over 10,000 shipping containers are lost overboard each year.


Absolutely correct. It could be anything but 24m is bloody big for a shipping container

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#1250072 - 20/03/2014 16:16 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Perhaps but on doing some reading the largest shipping containers are 16m intact. I wonder if a container that had been in the ocean for some time, taken damage or spilled some contents might not show up as a slightly larger object on satellite imagery.

I be curious to see how good the resolution is on those images.

Personally though I hope this is the plane. Although it brings an awful resolution for the families at least they would be a step closer to knowing what happened.
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#1250073 - 20/03/2014 16:20 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Air France crash - it took 2 more years to find the actual plane and black box after the first debris was found...

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#1250074 - 20/03/2014 16:21 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Just in.

Australian Broadcasting Corporation editor Jon Williams tweets: Crew on @USNavy P-8 spotter tell (ABC correspondent on board P-8) @WrightUps: "significant radar returns" coming from site where possible #MH370 objects spotted.
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#1250075 - 20/03/2014 16:23 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Dont forget that after 12 days the debris would've moved with the ocean currents. By now you'd have bits and pieces scattered everywhere IF the plane did in fact crash into the water. The black box could be anywhere.

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#1250077 - 20/03/2014 16:31 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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yep thats one the reasons buoys are being deployed to monitor sea currents...
Also comes down to whether the plane came down rather intact or not as to whether the plane debris on the ocean floor is spread out or confined on one area...

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#1250079 - 20/03/2014 16:35 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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What the hell happend on this plane.
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#1250080 - 20/03/2014 16:36 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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A quick google search reveals the average depth of the Indian Ocean is nearly 3900m.
It will take some retrieving!!
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#1250081 - 20/03/2014 16:37 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Sorry double post above.
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#1250082 - 20/03/2014 16:44 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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An aviation expert on abc just before was saying the black box may not give up much knowledge. Just the path changes, altitudes, running out of fuel and crashing. Hopefully it does give more than that.

Of course, that's if it is the crash site and it's not being loaded in Pakistan while all the attention has been drawn away.
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#1250085 - 20/03/2014 16:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Black box will give cockpit communication though which is vital.
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