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#1111692 - 28/06/2012 16:26 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: Brett Guy]
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Its abit like filling in wetlands to build on or mangrove swamps for airports the whole idea smaks lets do it because we can................GDL

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#1111694 - 28/06/2012 16:35 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: Brett Guy]
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No harm in thinking or dreaming about it. Put me in the "it won't have too much of an affect and it's not worth the hassle" camp. From what I see, the area is just too small and not really in the right location. If we could make the Gulf of Carpentaria two or three times larger I would be happy. Just think of all that rich moisture that could be advected southward in the warm sector of any developing lows!
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#1111697 - 28/06/2012 17:19 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: MC Thomas]
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Sorry to take a serious question off track but I have remade Australia. As suggested above, I have made the Gulf of Carpentaria much larger for a better moisture source for inland Australia. I have also increased the amount of elevated terrain through SA and NT to provide a more consistent elevated mixed layer over inland Qld, NSW and eastern SA. I didn't like the Flinders Ranges so they are gone. Much of the Great Dividing Range has also be removed. Unfortunately a few towns/cities were removed during this process, my apologies.


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#1111731 - 28/06/2012 21:13 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: MC Thomas]
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Except you have know flooded the intake areas for the Great Arstian Basin and again completely destroyed most of at least 3 states underground water supplies. And a heck of a lot of minreal deposits, cattle country and more than a few grey nomads (not a bad thing). Lol.
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#1111841 - 29/06/2012 11:15 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: SBT]
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Mike, I have caused a massive amount of ecological damage smile

I admit, it might not be perfect, one major problem I can see is a lack of radar sites in inland Australia. I might have to do something about that. I guess the question is, within this modified Australia, what will be the best location/s for storms? My thinking would be N Vic, S/W NSW and E SA should all do well. I might expect a few early season outbreaks in S/central Qld too.

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#1111848 - 29/06/2012 11:34 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: MC Thomas]
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I would be raising the great divide by another 1000m or so to get better snow falls and better/more consistent runoff. The idea of expanding the gulf would take most of the runoff into lake eyre as not you have it all flat land,

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#1111891 - 29/06/2012 15:12 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: adon]
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I wouldnt raise the divide, i would just add a massive landmass to the south grin
Imagine the cold air penetration we would get with Canada to the south of us.

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#1111893 - 29/06/2012 15:21 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: Tom1234]
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I agree, the idea is silly


All the more reason to apply for a Govt. grant.... grin
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#1111915 - 29/06/2012 16:34 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: Tom1234]
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Originally Posted By: Enrique
I wouldnt raise the divide, i would just add a massive landmass to the south grin
Imagine the cold air penetration we would get with Canada to the south of us.
I was also thinking of that but I hate really cold weather so therefor I would rather more rainfall and more moisture coming from the NW. Plus we grow crops in winter as we don't get frozen so a huge landmass south of us would really throw a spanner in the works!

And yes the idea maybe silly but who cares? None of it will happen and just a dreaming exercise for the perfect landmass for the weather we like. I do like the idea of a massive rainforest in the north of the country, would be unreal to see an endless sea of rainforest where once there was grass savanah. Most of that stuff was rainforest before humans came to australia and used fire the change it.

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#1111932 - 29/06/2012 17:08 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: adon]
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Originally Posted By: adon
[quote=Enrique]None of it will happen and just a dreaming exercise for the perfect landmass for the weather we like.


Exactly, I hope know one takes what I said above seriously. If I have a bit of time to waste this weekend I might put a few doppler radars east of the mountain range running from the NT into SA. I have a feeling that my modified version of Australia will probably see a few tornado outbreaks and the lack of radar coverage out there is dangerous (and not conducive to good storm chasing) smile

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#1111978 - 29/06/2012 21:30 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: MC Thomas]
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Nooh - not the Flinders Ranges - we are travelling through there next week, and would feel foolish if they have been eradicated via your diabolical plan.
What you could do though - I have always wanted a magnificent peak in my back paddock and a picturesque,rock strewn creek at the base, so if you could include this little desire in your master plan, I would be ever so happy.
Also, whilst you are at it, I think the beaches around the Kingston area of SA need cliffs - like over at Streaky Bay, and a few more bays.
Also MC, I think you may have knocked Mt Isa off the map, and I do believe it has quite an important mineral business going on, so I think you may have to reinstate it, to be fair.
But, all in all, you have tried hard - the first draft is not going to be perfect!

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#1112761 - 03/07/2012 22:18 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: Kowree]
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Okay, I went back to the drawing boards and I think it looks a lot better now. Kowree, you got your wish of some mountains around your neck of the woods as well as some cliffs for SE SA. I also put Mount Isa back on the map, just now it's an island. Fortunately for Mt Isa, they now have a doppler radar which might come in handy if a tropical cyclone enters the Gulf of Carpentaria. The other major change was a substantial expansion of the doppler radar network. Importantly, WA also got it's first doppler radar installed after replacing the old C-Band radar.


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#1112769 - 03/07/2012 23:13 Re: An idea for inland australia [Re: MC Thomas]
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My missus thinks you haven't gone far enough and removed Townsville from the map or Townsvile as she calls it. Either way the grey nomads will have a hell of a lot of trouble getting too/from Mt isa now and I thank you for that. wink
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