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#1134274 - 20/10/2012 17:31 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Originally Posted By: CeeBee
Originally Posted By: Anthony Violi


Hansen can have his wet dream, he has no proof, and all of the IPCC predictions are wrong.



Thanks Anthony, you've just provided a perfect example of a logical fallacy - a non sequitur.


Instead of addressing the content of the paper I posted above by Hansen you said "he has no proof, and all of the IPCC predictions are wrong."



Oh that's a bit rich coming from you CeeBee smirk gee 99.5% of your posts are non-sequitur and 99.9% of us agree that to be the case.

Oh I love stats - one can simply throw numbers around with gay abandon smile

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#1134292 - 20/10/2012 19:29 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: refstar]
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They, the AGW Crowd, are starting to panic now, they can't see why most folk are not listening anymore!
retty obvious to most!

"Why Aren't The Presidential Candidates Discussing Climate Change?


Philadelphia Daily News | By Posted: 10/19/2012 2:09 pm EDT Updated: 10/19/2012 4:33 pm EDT
The following editorial appeared in the Philadelphia Daily News on Friday, Oct. 19:

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The past 12 months have been the hottest on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Throughout the nation, drought, wildfires, floods and other extreme weather have made global warming a visible reality.

So it was maddening -- and tragic -- that both presidential candidates spent significant time during Tuesday's debate trying to one-up each other on how much more fossil fuels they plan to extract, burn and allow into the atmosphere. In three debates so far, climate change hasn't been mentioned once.

Moderator Candy Crowley said that one of the "undecided" voters at the debate had prepared a climate-change question, but she didn't call on that person: "We just, you know, again, we knew that the economy was still the main thing.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/presidential-candidates-climate-change_n_1986737.html
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#1134382 - 21/10/2012 09:42 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: bd bucketingdown]
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You know that something that is the child of the left wing environmental movement is all over when some of the most prominent philosophers of the left start to take on and deconstruct the most cherished beliefs of the environmentalists and their most favoured beliefs and ideologies.

From the "Financial Review";

Scorning the propaganda of fear
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When a celebrated French philosopher from the centre left assails the “despotic” politics of environmental fear he should expect a dressing down from his climate change-conscious comrades.

But Pascal Bruckner has incited such fury with a diatribe against green prophesiers of imminent planetary ruin, the reaction has surprised even this veteran of the trans-Atlantic culture wars.

“The planet is sick. Man is guilty of having destroyed it. He must pay,” is how Bruckner caustically portrays the received wisdom on environmental “sin” and damnation in his latest book Le fanatisme de l’Apocalypse (The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse).

“Consider . . . the famous carbon footprint that we all leave behind us,” he writes in his introduction. “What is it, after all, if not the gaseous equivalent of original sin, of the stain that we inflict on our Mother Gaia by the simple fact of being present and breathing?”

Subtitled Sauver la Terre, punir l’Homme (Save the Earth, Punish Human Beings) the book rails against a peculiar Western malady. Yes, concerns about the environment are legitimate, Bruckner asserts, but catastrophisme is transforming us all into children “put in a panic in order to be better controlled”.

It is a feistier-than-usual polemic for Bruckner, a leading member of France’s “new philosophers” who emerged from the 1970s left with searing critiques of Marxism. Later this year, it will be published in English as Fanaticism of the Apocalypse by Polity, Cambridge, translated by Steven Rendall.

As the Jesuit-educated philosopher sees it, extreme climate change alarmism, with its warning bells chiming “The end of the world is nigh, repent ye”, represents a worrying new doctrine of ideological purity that even has totalitarian overtones.

Worst of all, Bruckner argues, these “political commissars of carbon” have “betrayed the best of causes” and turned the discourse of ecological terror into the “dominant ideology of Western society”.

Dividing his argument into three sections, provocatively titled “The Seduction of Disaster”; “The Anti-progress Progressives”; and “The Great Ascetic Regression”, Bruckner scorns the peddlers of the “propaganda of fear”.

It is a muscular thesis delivered in typical elegant Bruckner style, citing philosophers, playwrights, novelists, political theorists and green activists from Martin Heidegger to Goethe, Moliere, Gustave Flaubert, Hannah Arendt, and France’s Yves Cocher.

However since the book appeared in French late last year, Bruckner has been pilloried in certain quarters as a reactionary turncoat aiding the worst climate change deniers. He has seen some publications that traditionally laud his work decry Fanaticism of the Apocalypse as hedonistic, deluded and dangerous.

“Le Monde devoted four pages to say to what extent my book was bad, false and full of lies, which is rather curious,” Bruckner says, with a slight edge to his voice, as we are ushered into an upper room in his local cafe, Le Progres, in the Marais neighbourhood of Paris. When his last book, The Paradox of Love, a reflection on the vicissitudes of the modern God of “Amour”, was released in 2009, it was critically acclaimed and became a bestseller.


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#1134417 - 21/10/2012 12:16 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: ROM]
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caelum hypochondria Climate hypochondria - sort of fits certain members to a T.

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Hypochondria is a belief that physical symptoms are signs of a serious illness, even when there is no medical evidence to support the presence of an illness.


Originally Posted By: ABC The Drum Comment
Climate Hypochondria is a condition in which a person believes that the world is ill when no objective signs of illness can be observed. It has an obsessive as well as a delusional component. Sufferers from climate hypochondria, or, to use the clinical term, climate hypochondriasis, remain convinced that the world is ill despite reassurances, and often present the world to others over a long period of time as suffering from a series of different symptoms and diseases. The onset of climate hypochondria is frequently in the 30s in men and 40s in women who have only a superficial understanding of the sciences. Those in sedentary occupations are notoriously liable to it, and, whilst some scientists usually suffer only a transient bout of climate hypochondria, some remain climate hypochondriacal throughout their career. Depression and alcoholism exacerbate the condition.

Personally, looking around at acquaintences and friends who tend to believe in AGW, it amazes me how easily they fit the overall description of hypochondriacs in general.


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#1134496 - 21/10/2012 19:23 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: SBT]
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Corn belt moving northward with climate change

WASHINGTON -- Joe Waldman is saying goodbye to corn after yet another hot and dry summer convinced him that rainfall won't be there when he needs it anymore.
"I finally just said uncle," said Mr. Waldman, 52, surveying his stunted crop about 100 miles north of Dodge City, Kansas. Instead, he will expand sorghum, which requires less rain; let some fields remain fallow; and restrict corn to irrigated fields.

While farmers nationwide planted the most corn this year since 1937, growers in Kansas sowed the fewest acres in three years, instead turning to less-thirsty crops such as wheat, sorghum and even triticale, a wheat-rye mix popular in Poland. Meanwhile, corn acreage in Manitoba, a Canadian province about 700 miles north of Kansas, has nearly doubled over the past decade due to weather changes and higher prices.

Shifts such as these reflect a view among food producers that this summer's drought in the United States -- the worst in half a century -- isn't a random disaster. It's a glimpse of a future altered by climate change that will affect worldwide production.

"These changes are happening faster than plants can adapt, so we will see substantial impacts on global growing patterns," said Axel Schmidt, a former senior scientist for the International Center for Tropical Agriculture now with Catholic Relief Services.

While there is still debate about how human activity is altering the climate, agriculture is already adapting to shifting weather patterns.

Agribusiness giant Cargill is investing in northern U.S. facilities, anticipating increased grain production in that part of the country, said Greg Page, the chief executive officer of the Minneapolis-based company.

"The number of rail cars, the number of silos, the amount of loading capacity" all change, Mr. Page said in an interview in New York. "You can see capital go to where there is ability to produce more tons per acre."

Losses in some areas will mean gains in others, Mr. Page said. A native of Bottineau, a small town on North Dakota's border with Canada, Mr. Page said that when he was in high school in the 1960s, "you could grow wheat, or wheat. That was it," he said.

"You go to that very same place today -- they can grow soybeans, they can grow canola, they can grow corn, they can grow field peas and export them to India," he said. "A lot of that has been to do with the fact that they have six, eight days more of frost-free weather."

This year's U.S. drought was the most severe since 1954, according to the Palmer Drought Index, which has measured such weather phenomena since 1895. The hot, dry conditions pushed estimates for the country's corn harvest to the lowest level in six years and the projected average cash price to an all-time high.

September was the 331th consecutive month in which temperatures worldwide topped the 20th-century average, the U.S. National Climatic Data Center said Monday. Corn futures in Chicago, which reached a record $8.49 a bushel in August, have since declined 13 percent, closing Monday at $7.325.

The Department of Agriculture this year updated its plant hardiness map for the first time since 1990, shifting many regions into zones that are 5 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than in the late 20th century.

The data show a climate in transition, with agriculture needing to adapt, said Wolfram Schlenker, an environmental economist at Columbia University in New York. Even small changes in average temperature may shift climate patterns, affecting rainfall, evaporation rates and the ability of plants to thrive in certain environments, he said.

"We'll see a real mix of crop signals and climate signals," he said in an interview. For farmers in poorer countries, adaptation to new weather patterns "can be a matter of life and death," he said.

Crop insurance paid out to farmers experiencing lost yields may top $25 billion this year, with the biggest losses concentrated in Midwest states, according to Kansas State University. Corn yields may average 122 bushels an acre this year, the lowest since 1995, the USDA said last week.

Western Kansas is in its second year of severe drought. Last year was the third-driest in Dodge City since record- keeping began in 1900; this year, the town's temperatures were above-average every month through July.

Weather has always been harsh in the region where Dust Bowl storms first blew, requiring farmers to rely on low-water crops like wheat to survive. The harnessing of the Ogalalla Aquifer, a massive underground lake that runs from South Dakota to west Texas provides about 30 percent of U.S. irrigation groundwater, has allowed corn to flower where rainfall can't support it. New varieties of hybrid plants and genetically modified seed have also helped.
That expansion may be ebbing with the drought, and the Ogalalla.

Ty Rumford, who manages High Choice Feeders south of Scott City, Kansas, is planting less corn and more triticale to feed the 37,000 animals in his company's two feed yards. A hardier crop is necessary as water availability falls, he said.

"When the wells were put down here in the '40s, they went 30 foot down into a 180-foot-deep aquifer," he said. "Those wells were pumping 1,500, 2,000 gallons a minute in the '50s. Now, we're at 135 feet deep, and they're pumping 200, 250 a minute. We've got to make sure we have enough water."
Triticale works for feedlots because it's used on-site in cattle rations, lowering costs, Mr. Rumford said. Its appeal is less for farmers who grow crops for the marketplace, he said.

"We're consuming everything we grow, so it's not important to have an outside market" for triticale, he said.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news.../#ixzz29v5E8bgm
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#1134497 - 21/10/2012 19:26 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Indonesia's Declining Wheat Imports Blamed on Climate Change

Indonesia’s wheat imports from Turkey will probably decline because of climate change, according to a Turkish wheat exporter.

Shipments are likely to fall 39 percent to 236,070 tons this year, said Hakan Esen, who is a member of the Turkish Central Anatolia Export Association.

“We are experiencing a production shortfall because of climate change,” Esen said in Jakarta on Friday.

Turkey is one of Indonesia’s main wheat suppliers. Other major suppliers include Sri Lanka, Ukraine, Belgium and Australia.

According to data from the association, Turkey’s wheat exports to Indonesia have been declining since 2010.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/economy/i...e-change/551375
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#1134502 - 21/10/2012 19:35 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Climate change: journalism's never-ending fight for facts

An Australian DJ must undergo 'accuracy' training after saying falsehoods about climate change. But will this improve journalism?

The debate about climate change is dogged – possibly even defined – by its interminable, intractable tug of war over the "facts". A hand grenade is lobbed into no-man's land triggering a volley of return fire. But, when the dust settles, can anyone truly claim to have advanced their position?

Of course, the art of "manufacturing doubt " has long been in the playbook of those hoping or needing to divert attention away from evidence. We saw it a generation ago with smoking, just as we see it today with climate change. But knowing how this blatant tactic is deployed doesn't make it any easier to nullify or deter. Compounding the problem is the speed at which "facts" can now spread unchallenged across the internet. Rebutting or contextualising inaccuracies takes expertise and, above all, time and energy.

This week has witnessed two text-book examples of this phenomenon in action. First, we had an article in the Mail of Sunday with the arresting headline that "Global warming stopped 16 years ago ". Predictably, it was picked up and repeated across the world by news outlets keen to push that line. A day or so later the rebuttals and clarifications from scientists started to land, but the meme had already gained purchase with those seeking such confirmation.

And then we heard the extraordinary news that Alan Jones, the Australian climate sceptic shock jock, had been ordered by the country's media regulator (full ruling here ) to undertake "factual accuracy" training , and to employ fact-checkers, following one of his infamous near-daily rants about the climate "hoax".

Each tale hints at a different outcome: the one that got away, versus the one that got caught. People can debate that, but I think taken together these two stories ask a deeper, more pertinent question about how – particularly in light of the fact that the Leveson inquiry is soon to publish its findings - the media can be persuaded, cajoled, forced – you chose the word – into taking a much more responsible position when it comes to relaying facts about climate change to its audience.

What, for example, can realistically be done about David Rose and his periodic articles in the Mail on Sunday purporting to cast doubt on climate science? The Press Complaints Commission has confirmed to me that it has received complaints about the latest article's accuracy. But it adds that it takes, on average, 35 working days for it to investigate and adjudicate on such cases. How could that ever correct the fact that the story was picked up and repeated all around the world with hours? Will all those outlets publish any adjudication if, indeed, it rules against the Mail on Sunday? I think we already know the answer.

Perhaps the scientists interviewed for the article should have smelt a rat, given Rose's form? After all, Professor Judith Curry complained that she had been misattributed not just for this week's article (she claims she never said climate models were "deeply flawed" despite the article attributing this comment to her), but for the Mail on Sunday article last year where he also quoted her. Why would she trust him second time round? Warning bells must have been sounding inside her head, surely? The result was that she spent the rest of the week posting ever-longer articles on her blog trying to clarify and better explaining the "facts" within the original article.

But, ignoring for a moment that she had already been stung by Rose once before, what measures could she realistically have taken to ensure the article printed was an accurate portrayal of the basic facts, as well as her own views? This is a dilemma that faces all climate scientists when they are approached by journalists. The last thing we want is for scientists to retreat back up into their ivory towers.

One of the best forms of rapid rebuttal we now have to counter misinformation is the fact that an increasing number of scientists are taking to Twitter meaning they can react instantly if they spot mistakes in the media. And they can also directly and publicly field questions via Twitter, not just from journalists but from the wider interested public. Sure, a very small section of society actually use Twitter, but it is closely followed by most journalists so you would hope comments posted by scientists crying foul would be picked up, absorbed and disseminated.

What about "punishing" the journalists who persistently mislead on climate change? Is exposing their mistakes and wilful misinformation enough? Or do they need to face some kind of tougher sanction? If so, who would act as the judge, jury and prosecutor? Are ombudsmen a powerful enough deterrent? (The Guardian, for example, has a reader's editor, who acts independently of the editorial staff. But many media outlets still do not have one.)

I certainly have mixed views about the training course that Alan Jones has been ordered to undergo. On the one hand, it has the benefit of shaming him – and his associates - very publicly. But, equally, is it really likely to make much of a difference to his "journalism"? As a professional controversialist, he knows the prejudices of his audience intimately and he plays up to them relentlessly. His "martyrdom" might even improve his standing with his supporters, such is their logic.

Personally, I think this is all very much an open question. I certainly don't envy Lord Leveson in his deliberations on how best to improve the standards and veracity of journalism. I certainly hate the idea of anyone being denied a voice or a platform - if that's even possible any more with the option of self-publishing online. Publish and be damned, etc. But can we really continue to allow some journalists to manipulate and distort the "facts" for their own purpose unchecked, particularly with subjects such as climate change? As the famous saying goes: "You're entitled to your own views, but not to your own facts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/oct/19/climate-change-facts-journalism
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#1134534 - 21/10/2012 21:11 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
bd bucketingdown Offline
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The SKS crew did their usual daily search for pro AGW stories all they could come up with today is a story on a normal drought that regularly occurs,
"Indonesia’s wheat imports from Turkey will probably decline because of climate change, according to a Turkish wheat exporter.", and some obscure rubbish of a ramble on journalism!
The stories are thinning and the cut & paste crew is getting very feeble on any real articles of any value at all imo!

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#1134592 - 21/10/2012 23:34 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: bd bucketingdown]
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Things are so bad in the US Corn belt that some Iowa farmland recently sold for a record $14,300 per acre or $35,400 per hectare.

Just a small farm is now worth $4.5 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-19...gap-widens.html

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#1134616 - 22/10/2012 06:04 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: Bill Illis]
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Nasty looking bubble in prices there and we all know that bubbles pop!

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Seminal Study Finds ‘Climate-Change Footprint’ In North America, ‘Continent With The Largest Increases in Disasters’

“Climate­-driven changes are already evident over the last few decades for severe thunderstorms, for heavy precipitation and flash flood­ing, for hurricane activity, and for heatwave, drought and wild­-fire dynamics in parts of North America.”



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#1134618 - 22/10/2012 06:12 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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U.S. climate-change skeptics losing support

Not only does a growing majority of Americans believe that global warming is, indeed, underway, but for the first time a majority have come to the conclusion that it's caused by human activity.

"Americans' belief in the reality of global warming has increased by 13 percentage points over the past two and a half years, from 57 percent in January 2010 to 70 percent in September 2012," report the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication in a survey published this week.

Despite the best efforts of some of the more ad hominen attacks made by particularly aggressive climate skeptics, the Yale and George Mason interviewees "strongly trust" climate scientists as a class far more than any other source surveyed – two and one-half times more than other scientists whose expertise is not in climatology, in fact.

Also interestingly, the survey notes that Americans are coming around to the understanding that most scientists "think that global warming is happening", despite the efforts to level the argumentative playing field by otherwise well-meaning media outlets, which prefer to present a "balanced" point/counterpoint attempt at an even-handed debate when, in fact, the consensus belief among climate scientists is that global warming is real.

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#1134620 - 22/10/2012 06:34 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Originally Posted By: CeeBee
Nasty looking bubble in prices there and we all know that bubbles pop!

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Seminal Study Finds ‘Climate-Change Footprint’ In North America, ‘Continent With The Largest Increases in Disasters’

“Climate­-driven changes are already evident over the last few decades for severe thunderstorms, for heavy precipitation and flash flood­ing, for hurricane activity, and for heatwave, drought and wild­-fire dynamics in parts of North America.”



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Just what constitutes a 'climatological' event CB? Seeing as I would say it is something that has been made up over recent years the numbers given for that are dodgy at best and the only other difference is the meteorological events which is more from better detection and reporting.

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#1134621 - 22/10/2012 06:36 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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UN warns of looming worldwide food crisis in 2013

World grain reserves are so dangerously low that severe weather in the United States or other food-exporting countries could trigger a major hunger crisis next year, the United Nations has warned.

Failing harvests in the US, Ukraine and other countries this year have eroded reserves to their lowest level since 1974. The US, which has experienced record heatwaves and droughts in 2012, now holds in reserve a historically low 6.5% of the maize that it expects to consume in the next year, says the UN.

"We've not been producing as much as we are consuming. That is why stocks are being run down. Supplies are now very tight across the world and reserves are at a very low level, leaving no room for unexpected events next year," said Abdolreza Abbassian, a senior economist with the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO). With food consumption exceeding the amount grown for six of the past 11 years, countries have run down reserves from an average of 107 days of consumption 10 years ago to under 74 days recently.

Prices of main food crops such as wheat and maize are now close to those that sparked riots in 25 countries in 2008. FAO figures released this week suggest that 870 million people are malnourished and the food crisis is growing in the Middle East and Africa. Wheat production this year is expected to be 5.2% below 2011, with yields of most other crops, except rice, also falling, says the UN.

The figures come as one of the world's leading environmentalists issued a warning that the global food supply system could collapse at any point, leaving hundreds of millions more people hungry, sparking widespread riots and bringing down governments. In a shocking new assessment of the prospects of meeting food needs, Lester Brown, president of the Earth policy research centre in Washington, says that the climate is no longer reliable and the demands for food are growing so fast that a breakdown is inevitable, unless urgent action is taken.

"Food shortages undermined earlier civilisations. We are on the same path. Each country is now fending for itself. The world is living one year to the next," he writes in a new book.

According to Brown, we are seeing the start of a food supply breakdown with a dash by speculators to "grab" millions of square miles of cheap farmland, the doubling of international food prices in a decade, and the dramatic rundown of countries' food reserves.

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#1134649 - 22/10/2012 09:43 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Looks like armagedon coming for USA(pity the chart did not go back to 1900 though & show other peaks and natural cycles)!
Funny how global temps fatten out or drop slightly for 16 years and yet it is still all AGW caused!

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#1134663 - 22/10/2012 10:36 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: bd bucketingdown]
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Of course Ian, because the climate models still see CO2 as this massive forcing which is quite obviously incorrect.

The question is how long before they pull the pin on this unmitigated disaster?

And how long before the science is then re-written to something resembling what is actually going on?
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#1134664 - 22/10/2012 10:38 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Originally Posted By: CeeBee

UN warns of looming worldwide food crisis in 2013

World grain reserves are so dangerously low that severe weather in the United States or other food-exporting countries could trigger a major hunger crisis next year, the United Nations has warned.

Failing harvests in the US, Ukraine and other countries this year have eroded reserves to their lowest level since 1974. The US, which has experienced record heatwaves and droughts in 2012, now holds in reserve a historically low 6.5% of the maize that it expects to consume in the next year, says the UN.

"We've not been producing as much as we are consuming. That is why stocks are being run down. Supplies are now very tight across the world and reserves are at a very low level, leaving no room for unexpected events next year," said Abdolreza Abbassian, a senior economist with the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO). With food consumption exceeding the amount grown for six of the past 11 years, countries have run down reserves from an average of 107 days of consumption 10 years ago to under 74 days recently.

Prices of main food crops such as wheat and maize are now close to those that sparked riots in 25 countries in 2008. FAO figures released this week suggest that 870 million people are malnourished and the food crisis is growing in the Middle East and Africa. Wheat production this year is expected to be 5.2% below 2011, with yields of most other crops, except rice, also falling, says the UN.

The figures come as one of the world's leading environmentalists issued a warning that the global food supply system could collapse at any point, leaving hundreds of millions more people hungry, sparking widespread riots and bringing down governments. In a shocking new assessment of the prospects of meeting food needs, Lester Brown, president of the Earth policy research centre in Washington, says that the climate is no longer reliable and the demands for food are growing so fast that a breakdown is inevitable, unless urgent action is taken.

"Food shortages undermined earlier civilisations. We are on the same path. Each country is now fending for itself. The world is living one year to the next," he writes in a new book.

According to Brown, we are seeing the start of a food supply breakdown with a dash by speculators to "grab" millions of square miles of cheap farmland, the doubling of international food prices in a decade, and the dramatic rundown of countries' food reserves.

Read full article


This article has nothing to do with global warming, climate disruption or whatever it may be called today, and more so about the politics of the UN and price forcing in the agriculture industry. It wouldn't even surprise me if it were a trick by the US Govt to stimulate their corpse of an economy.

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#1134668 - 22/10/2012 10:48 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: refstar]
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What is ridiculous is Refstar is that most of the severest weather seen on the planet happened when Co2 was at 320ppm, well below Hansens safe level of 350ppm.

That is why these trolls in here, and alarmists all over the world like Hansen, have no credibility.
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#1134669 - 22/10/2012 11:01 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: CeeBee]
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Originally Posted By: CeeBee
Nasty looking bubble in prices there and we all know that bubbles pop!

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Seminal Study Finds ‘Climate-Change Footprint’ In North America, ‘Continent With The Largest Increases in Disasters’

“Climate­-driven changes are already evident over the last few decades for severe thunderstorms, for heavy precipitation and flash flood­ing, for hurricane activity, and for heatwave, drought and wild­-fire dynamics in parts of North America.”

Must have missed the IPCC memo that concluded earlier this year that over the long-term, damage from extreme events has not been attributed to climate change, whether from natural or human causes.
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#1134671 - 22/10/2012 11:04 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: Anthony Violi]
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Headlines are generally far different than reality especially when it comes to anything to do with climate change.

Here are the very latest World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates.

http://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/latest.pdf

When you read through it its very difficult to understand where the hell the headline/story that Ceebee posted came from. Given how "extreme" and "disastrous" conditions have supposedly been in the US this year its amazing how production is somehow outstripping 2010/11 when none of these cataclysmic weather events occurred.

What I find puzzling is given Ceebee's propensity to so quickly find and link anything to do with climate change, how is it that you didn't come across this Ceebee. I mean it took me no more than 5 mins searching.
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#1134674 - 22/10/2012 11:28 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW [Re: Locke]
Anthony Violi Offline
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Registered: 06/11/2001
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Loc: Mt Barker - SA
Locke send an email to SkS....if they dont send CeeBee the link it doesnt get posted.
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