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#1121870 - 21/08/2012 13:32 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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Thanks for your tips DaveM, both here and in the snow thread. Booking our accommodation tonight, but Iím thinking the Highlanders cabins look good?
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#1121876 - 21/08/2012 14:09 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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We actually tried to buy the Highlanders cabins a few years ago - just couldn't get the finances right.

The cabins used to be good fun, we stayed there several times. Not sure what they're like now but they are often booked out and there's not many so it's usually nice n quiet as well.

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#1122003 - 22/08/2012 07:02 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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CS22, Just noticed the last model runs for Tassie have 850 temps of -5 and heaps of precipitation streaming in from the SW on Sunday. This will translate to snow to 500m on Sunday. You should have a great snow day if you are there on Sunday.

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#1122141 - 22/08/2012 21:13 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: GrizzlyBear]
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I'll be sure to pack the winter woolies then, PD! I just hope we get some good walks in before the weather turns bad on Sat afternoon, would be great to get some shots of a snow capped CM without it being blotted out by low cloud. Actually, after Friday's system i hope the road in isn't closed.
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#1122208 - 23/08/2012 09:28 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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If you get a glimpse of the mount - snap away because it may be quite fleeting in those conditions. Hopefully you will see it clearly at some point. Do enjoy it. The waterfalls should be good coming down into lake dove, last time I was there was the first time (for me) they were all but non existent it had been very dry. You should see AND hear them well if you walk around Lake Dove or head towards Hansens peak.

Enjoy. smile

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#1122217 - 23/08/2012 09:45 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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Geez, that is a whopper change for Sunday, 500mb -35, 850mb -5 and heaps of precipitation. Not much changing in the models for Tassie. You should be right until Sunday morning, that Sunday change is about as cold as they have been so far this winter. Its actually fairly typical for Tassie that they get their heaviest low level snow end August and early September.

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#1122224 - 23/08/2012 09:54 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: GrizzlyBear]
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I always worked on late Aug and Sept having the heaviest falls in general, even early October. The earlier months tended to have less precip than Spring falls at least that's how it seemed to me. smile

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#1122234 - 23/08/2012 10:21 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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Wow, just checked the BOM state forecast for Sunday and they have snow to 500m! Not sure what the elevation is in the Cradle Valley, but it would have to at least 500m given how often they get snow.
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#1122245 - 23/08/2012 10:48 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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The accomodation areas are about 800m or so from rusty memory.

The top of Cradle is about 1500 (but you won't be up that high) smile

Rusty memory but Dove Lake must be about 1000 or thereabouts.

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#1122252 - 23/08/2012 11:13 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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I just checked Google maps and that's about right DaveM, didn't realise the accommodation was quite that high. Do you know if they close the Cradle Mountain Rd very often, or is it ploughed when it snows?
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#1122255 - 23/08/2012 11:23 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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CS22, can we swap places? Will be a huge shock to the system for you going from 30C temps straight to abundant snow. Not unusual for southern VIC and TAS to stay cold while we cook on the east coast, just look at January 1994. The strong thermal gradient between the mainland and Tassie/Southern Ocean waters at this time of year helps to produce huge snowfalls at times, no doubt.

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#1122265 - 23/08/2012 11:48 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: HumphreyBear]
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The road from Devonport to Cradle is generally ok - not often it's a prob. They run a bus shuttle from The old airport up to Lake Dove. Anyhow whatever is there you will just find a way to cope with. If there is any way of getting a 4wd or awd it may not hurt though just as added peace of mind.

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#1122278 - 23/08/2012 12:33 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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Hired a Subaru Forester, so should be fine.

I was just browsing the Tas P&WS site and came across these two handy webcams!

http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/index.aspx?base=28485
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#1122295 - 23/08/2012 13:12 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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Forester absolutely perfect for the job. My Forester has been through quite a lot of quite deep snow. My first experience in a Forester was May 2000 in Tassie and it was a ripper. (The snow and the car)

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#1122532 - 23/08/2012 20:50 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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21 degrees here in Hobart today shocked That's the January daily average max. Just ridiculous for this time of year and more on the way next week.
Cheers from the New Sub Tropics.


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#1122536 - 23/08/2012 21:18 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Forester absolutely perfect for the job. My Forester has been through quite a lot of quite deep snow. My first experience in a Forester was May 2000 in Tassie and it was a ripper. (The snow and the car)


They don't cope with water crossings quite so well, though, as I found out the hard way in the back blocks of the Kimberley a few years back.

I'm doing the Overland Track myself in the first week of October - will be a bit disappointed if I don't get snowed on at least once.

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#1122562 - 23/08/2012 22:38 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: MOUNTAIN h2o]
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Mountain H2o Hey Yeh.There have been some incredible thermal gradients as 'YOHo' has said
I was interested in the source of your warmth and that of Sydney metropolitan today
and in contrast the cold in Canberra ,southern SA and VIC

In the maps below you can see a warm protrusion of air from sub tropical Tasman and from Queensland interior has funneled its way down east oz mainland and east tassie' coastline returning on its poleward journey
and the opposite is happening on the west side of 'tassie'.
The n/west of tassie'was much cooler than Hobart
You can see cold sub polar air from the southern ocean pushing Northward up the south east of OZ.
The boundaries between warm and cold have assisted in spawning some incredible storm and wind activity on the steepest sections of the thermal boundary of hot and colder air.
You should notice the contrast tomorrow l would imagine

Snow in the hills in Tasmania tomorrow maybe ?

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#1122579 - 23/08/2012 23:18 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: crikey]
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Blair - enjoy the OT - that time of the year anything and everything usually happens with the weather. smile

Now I need to hear what happened with the water crossing smile They get water in the diffs through the breather if water is a bit deep but I've had mine through water about half way up the door. Then had to drain the diffs frown

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#1122676 - 24/08/2012 11:35 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: DaveM]
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GFS has backed off a little on the 18z run, it now has the coldest uppers just missing Cradle to the south, still very cold at 700/850hpa though.

Anyone care to take a guess at how much snow there will be on Sunday morning in the Cradle Valley? smile
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#1122686 - 24/08/2012 12:15 Re: What's happening in Tassie? [Re: CoastalStorm22]
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Depending on the timing of cold air vs rain - you might end up with anywhere from a light dusting to 10 or 15 cm. Less at the lodge area than further up but the nice thing there is that the accomodation valley is fairly sheltered and nice steady snow can pile up quickly.

And the place looks magic when it's like that.

If you get a chance sneak into the guest areas of the original Cradle Lodge, the old leather lounges, timber beams and open fires etc make a place full of atmosphere.


Edited by DaveM (24/08/2012 12:16)

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