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#1163825 - 23/01/2013 21:02 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
ethanhh george Offline
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They are the best enemy of the lawn grubs. They are safe to use. I order it online. Even you can order it from
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1x...53#.UP-ybqzG6X0
Or
http://greenmethods.com/site/weblog/2009/04/huge-spring-nematode-sale/
These are the few sites where it is available.

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#1163948 - 23/01/2013 22:20 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ethanhh george]
ant Offline
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Well, it might well be a good solution if these blighters want to keep coming. But they won't make a break for my tomatoes, will they?

Those are US sites, I'm pretty sure we can't import insects from the US! I sure hope we can't.

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#1165407 - 25/01/2013 18:06 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
Simmosturf Offline
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The Clorpyriphos is the product mate... That's Lorsban... Go to your farm supply company though mate!!! Very dubious I am re the big chains!!! Your grubs are gone mate!!

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#1165513 - 25/01/2013 21:28 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
ant Offline
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I got the liquid stuff from Bellchambers, an old ag supply place in a ramshackle shed in Fyshwick. The granules I got in a bucket from Big W but wasn't sure it was going to work, and I think i applied most of it at the wrong time. Bellchambers bloke reckoned water the liquid stuff in early January, to get the bugs at their most vulnerable. They had better all be dead!

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#1165965 - 26/01/2013 13:54 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
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Mate, Clorpyriphos will wipe them out at any life cycle... Very potent!! Surprised you can still buy it!!! The average joe blo can only buy upto 1TR of the liquid form at a time! Which is stupid!! And watering it in is the go. One touch and no more grub!!!

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#1165966 - 26/01/2013 13:56 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
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Its actually registered for termite control also!!

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#1170592 - 05/02/2013 21:56 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
ethanhh george Offline
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I also had a same problem of dread lawn grubs in my lawn. I used it worked. I think it will not harm your tomatoes.

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#1170621 - 06/02/2013 04:54 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ethanhh george]
ant Offline
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the Clorpyiphos, which was the granules from Big W, had a really bad smell, I remember it from when we bought our farm, one of the sheds stank of it. I wonder if they'd used it for termites? there's termites present at my place, every bit of dead wood and even wood chip mulch has them. Bit of a worry given my house is WRC!!!!

I didn't dissolve them, just sprinkled most of the bucket over the two lawns, which get pop-up watering every two days. I haven't seen any black beetles about, although some birds leave pellets of compressed beetle casings on my deck.

But the liquid stuff did get added to water and watered in, an hour before the pop-ups were due to come on, I used the entire container as they got very vague about dilution rates on the container. Bellchambers said this stuff (it wasn't the cloryphos, it was the other stuff) has a residual effect. So unless these are very poerful grubs, I'm hoping they're history.

It's bloody annoying, that was a magnificent lawn, sown thickly with RTF and it was so thick that walking on it was like a sponge. However, it didn't like the hot sun much, during summer the only really green bit was under a Manchurian Pear we bunged on part of the lawn. So after the bugs, we ground up all the soil, added a bunch of mushroom compost (a tonne at least) and I'm re-sowing with Dryland Mix which should give us decent performance year-round. From memory, it's RTF, Chewings, Perennial Rye, and one of the clovers. They sell large quantities of it to the people who get the contracts to fix roadworks sites when the work is finished.

Been considering adding a bit of sneaky couch, but it looks horrible in winter so maybe not, although it's doing a good job on the arid hard soil areas, very pleased with it.

Tell you what though, the roos loved the RTF, but they love the Dryland Mix even more. My lawn becomes a restaurant most evenings.

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#1170622 - 06/02/2013 04:58 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
ant Offline
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... actually before the Dryland grew up properly, every weed known to man came up, so I got to that with Grazon (after the convo about creeping oxalis), and that did for the weeds, AND the clover! So my brother is pretty happy about that, he loathes clover.

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#1170955 - 08/02/2013 13:17 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
Simmosturf Offline
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Good stuff Ant.... Yeh I'm wrapped with Grazon!! The turf registered products can go to the [censored] from now on... And so much cheaper.

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#1170976 - 08/02/2013 16:14 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
ant Offline
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I've found my "strong mix" quite useful for those lawn weeds too, but the Oxalis evidently required grazon. Need Kamba for the Wireweed though.

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#1171035 - 08/02/2013 22:33 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
ethanhh george Offline
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Yes Simmosturf, dogs damage the lawn grass. But it gets repaired with self.
Sometimes it gets much damage so in that condition new grass has to be grown.
What is the best season to grow grass ?

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#1171041 - 08/02/2013 22:57 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ethanhh george]
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That depends on your location and what species you would like to grow? Summer active grasses are the best by a mile and grow Australia wide, but they will go dormant in winter and lose colour, they can be oversown for winter colour easily though.. The upside is that the summer actives (C4) grasses are self repairing, very drought tolerant, and mostly easy to maintain?? Cool season grasses (C3) aren't!!!

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#1171722 - 12/02/2013 21:18 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: Simmosturf]
ethanhh george Offline
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Thanks for the information. I was looking for the same information. It is a good option to have a self repairing grass in lawn. It requires less maintenance.

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#1178344 - 28/02/2013 10:12 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
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Got back from the US last week... when I left it was still that dreadful dry heatwave, but several hours after I left we got that 40mm downpour and apprently regular rain ever since.

The lawns look amazing, I did a re-sow of Dryland Mix and straw before I left on all the bare bits. The roos and rabbits were eating down any new growth too.

Now, lush, pale green, all are weeds were GONE thanks to the Grazon spray (thanks Simmo, that tip was spot-on), and also the clover (grazon again). No sign of grub activity.

Although digging in the veggie garden to plant winter things, I found a few giant fat grubs. Pity the worms don't eat them.

I also think these grubs are Christmas Beetles, not black scarabs. I find a LOT of smashed up brown-shelled Xmas beetle casings in bird droppings, and there was some casing in the hole where I found the garden grub. Then again, this grub was a greyish grub, not the white ones in the lawns.

Have also been putting couch seed around (Bermuda Couch). It seems to respond quite slowly, but there's some promising patches around the areas that were dry and bare.

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#1183700 - 15/03/2013 20:51 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
ethanhh george Offline
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If you are still facing the same problem then you should reinstall the lawn turf. This time install maintenance free turf. So that you donít need to take care of it much. I am having Village Green Turf in my lawn. After installing it I never faced any problem.

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#1183898 - 16/03/2013 21:04 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
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I'm on a mountain in a rural area, we just ploughed up all the soil (and old grass) and ground it up fine, flattened it again, and re-sowed it! Used a mix of grasses this time, which should mean better performance year-round (RTF hates the hot sun). I have since snuck a bit of couch into it too, although it has a battle.

It's looking great. Put some more seed into the remaining gaps today (my fault, I put my plants on the lawn while away, now I have pot-shaped gaps), and it just rained. Got some perennial rye for the very couchy areas (on the un-irrigated areas which used to be just hard, dry dirt).

It's been growing like mad, that new lawn (there's two of them). And any grubs that are left are Terminator grubs as I've had two sorts of grub stuff on the lawns.

they're big lawns, turf would be a bit of a pain and to be honest, it looks so good now, it's not necessary.

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#1184545 - 19/03/2013 17:18 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
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The Couch will struggle Ant if you leave the grass long... It will get shaded out. Couch hates the shade...
Whats Village Green Ethan??

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#1184547 - 19/03/2013 17:21 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
Simmosturf Offline
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Ohhhhhh Its Kikuyu!!!!! Yuk

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#1184613 - 19/03/2013 21:30 Re: The dreaded lawn grubs [Re: ant]
ant Offline
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Interesting, didn't know that about couch. Bit worried about how it browns off in winter, I might just leave it to the un-irrigated rough areas. and I do tend to set the lawnmower as high as it'll cut. Maybe it's not a good addition to the lawn right now.

Dunno what's looking so pretty with this new grass on the lawn, it's a paler green than the mature RTF (which is in the mix), with a broadish leaf. Maybe it's the Chewings. And no clover has come up, maybe it doesn't like the cooler nights or something.

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