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#1439601 - 29/10/2017 15:50 Re: Stratospheric sudden warmings (SSWs) [Re: crikey]
Seira Offline
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Registered: 27/08/2003
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Loc: Adelaide Hills.
I think if the longer-wave upper-trough system has strong-enough Jetstream boundaries between them and the sub-tropical ridge, a SSW is more likely to be isolated and not affect the weather layer so much. However, if convergence streams (near the tropopause) are weaker, higher temperature and wind anomalies may leak into the westerly belt. The polar jet I'm referring to.


Edited by Seira (29/10/2017 15:52)

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#1439922 - 30/10/2017 21:55 Re: Stratospheric sudden warmings (SSWs) [Re: crikey]
snowbooby Offline
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Strange spike on ozone hole charts at
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/polar/gif_files/ozone_hole_plot.png
around 19-21 October - difficult not to believe it's an error from instruments or transposition of data? otherwise ozone hole disappeared for what..a day?...then came roaring back to finish at about level for 2016.Seems a bit odd.

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#1440076 - 01/11/2017 18:52 Re: Stratospheric sudden warmings (SSWs) [Re: crikey]
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Registered: 10/07/2006
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Loc: Lane Cove, Sydney, NSW
Looks as if were about to see the final warming and breakdown of the PV in next few weeks. I think this would be earlier than normal in the ozone hole era.





Zonal winds look set to take a nose dive over the next week also.




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#1440224 - 03/11/2017 23:41 Re: Stratospheric sudden warmings (SSWs) [Re: crikey]
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Loc: Lane Cove, Sydney, NSW

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#1441184 - 14/11/2017 22:53 Re: Stratospheric sudden warmings (SSWs) [Re: crikey]
snowbooby Offline
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Registered: 11/05/2016
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Zonal winds @ all monitored levels in stratosphere @ 60S as of 14/11 are still stronger than at same moment last year.

https://acd-ext.gsfc.nasa.gov/Data_services/met/ann_data.html

By current forecasts, Zonal Wind at 50hPa,(remembering one suggested proxy for final warming being winds declining to 1ms at that level), look to last a bit longer - by last week of Nov though easterlies will be present@10hPa(again the same forecast from nasa).

If the final warming date of last year is known it might be possible to say if the above situation is a little odd - given the +ve anomylous heat flux the stratospheric vortex has been subject to this season, and the much larger ozone hole of 2016.

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