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#1433041 - 06/09/2017 18:27 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Also allowing households to install panels and connect those panels to the grid was an extremely bad move.



Nonsense. The alternative was to build a new power station that was going to cost us a lot more. You cannot have it both ways. Qld's biggest demand for power comes in late Spring and Summer when aircons are running full belt during the day.

The power was jacked up to replace the lost revenue and no side of government can say they didn't.

In fact supply was so successful it removed the need for a new power station .
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#1433042 - 06/09/2017 18:28 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Gad]
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Originally Posted By: Gad
Originally Posted By: rain gauge
[quote=bundybear]


Quote:
"If we make one exception for one community, that being the same-sex couples, where does it stop?" Mark said.

"Do we then see other cultures being allowed to have multiple marriages? Do we see the age of consent being lowered for another group of minorities? That is my concern, of where it would lead."
"Ben said while he respects that other couples might want to wed, he is committed to preserving traditional marriage."

I wonder what they spent the money on the church gave them to spew that Horse manure?



please put up a link to this comment
It's called sarcasm..


Geez
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#1433044 - 06/09/2017 18:43 Re: Australian Politics [Re: rain gauge]
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Originally Posted By: rain gauge
Originally Posted By: Gad
Originally Posted By: rain gauge
[quote=bundybear]


Quote:
"If we make one exception for one community, that being the same-sex couples, where does it stop?" Mark said.

"Do we then see other cultures being allowed to have multiple marriages? Do we see the age of consent being lowered for another group of minorities? That is my concern, of where it would lead."

"Ben said while he respects that other couples might want to wed, he is committed to preserving traditional marriage."

I wonder what they spent the money on the church gave them to spew that Horse manure?



please put up a link to this comment
It's called sarcasm..


Geez


sarcasm.... no, a knowing lie... yes

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#1433045 - 06/09/2017 18:48 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Finance journalist Alan Kohler makes a lot of sense.:

article

If we taxed land rather than income, we might see some enduring prosperity creating activity rather than speculation on land prices, which is sure to end in tears.

On energy problems: had we not had so many decades of insane levels of immigration there would be plenty of energy capacity. Not to mention plenty of land, water resources, etc, etc. This is how governments are destroying quality of life.

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#1433046 - 06/09/2017 18:49 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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The thought crossed my mind when I saw the story break Gad. Money talks. Do you have proof it's a lie? That works both ways.
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#1433048 - 06/09/2017 19:00 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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We already tax land, it is called council rates.

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#1433055 - 06/09/2017 19:41 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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GAD. Considering the garbage and BS spewed out by the low iq and uneducated right wing loonies about gays in this country. I hardly call my joke earth shattering

GROW UP


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#1433057 - 06/09/2017 20:03 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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So Queensland props up NSW's power grid.....

QUEENSLAND power stations will be pumping excess electricity into NSW to prevent blackouts south of the border.

Energy Minister Mark Bailey said about 1000 megawatts would be sent through the interconnector with NSW.

“We have got the youngest, most efficient fleet of base-load generators in the country,” he said.

Mr Bailey said even after sending electricity to NSW there would still be another 1000 megawatts of spare capacity in Queensland — making blackouts unlikely.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queen...9ec44817f2edfe2

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#1433060 - 06/09/2017 20:32 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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The claim: NSW Opposition Leader Luke Foley says electricity privatisation pushes up power prices and households in privatised South Australia have the highest bills.

The verdict: While one report did find SA had the highest bills, others don't back that up. Whether comparing electricity bills, prices or the relative price index of electricity in each state, there is no consistent link between privatisation and what consumers pay for their electricity. Mr Foley's claim is spin.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/201...rices3f/6329316


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#1433085 - 06/09/2017 23:40 Re: Australian Politics [Re: rain gauge]
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Originally Posted By: rain gauge
GAD. Considering the garbage and BS spewed out by the low iq and uneducated right wing loonies about gays in this country. I hardly call my joke earth shattering

GROW UP


quote{Either way its the tired and lame slippery slope argument. No wonder the poor creatures are in a dilemma. One of them is catholic. He chose a religion that wishes he didn't exist. Not much on top I guess. I wonder what they spent the money on the church gave them to spew that Horse manure?}

The highlighted was my thoughts on your,above quoted,insulting attack on the mentioned same sex couple.

Oh, it`s Gad,and I have. please take your own advice

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#1433130 - 07/09/2017 11:24 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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GAD. Its called opinion.
That gay couple have an opinion on gay marriage(Which you obviously accept) And I find offensive
I have an opinion on them. (For some odd reason or another you find offensive.)
Is it really that hard for you to see it works both ways?


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#1433134 - 07/09/2017 11:53 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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RG, can i suggest if you are making an attempt at humour again then maybe use a smilie to indicate as such. people cannot read your mind. obviously Gad took you comment seriously and asked for proof, nothing wrong with that.

i also think your comment regarding 'right wing uneducated/loonies" a bit off, considering the far left are making attempts to have a doctor who appeared in a no campaign ad recently to be deregistered. people, including the gay couple that you ridiculed have a right to speak up and express their views.
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#1433135 - 07/09/2017 12:31 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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So do I that's my point.
Seems ok to be homophobic but not ok to point it out.
Makes sense..
By the way his questions were vague. Which point did he want proof on?


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#1433136 - 07/09/2017 12:37 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
So Queensland props up NSW's power grid.....

QUEENSLAND power stations will be pumping excess electricity into NSW to prevent blackouts south of the border.

Energy Minister Mark Bailey said about 1000 megawatts would be sent through the interconnector with NSW.

“We have got the youngest, most efficient fleet of base-load generators in the country,” he said.



He forgot to add that was thanks to the foresight of Joh Bjelke Peterson whose government spent heavily on building such infrastructure in Qld, unlike any government since then.

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#1433151 - 07/09/2017 14:26 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Originally Posted By: Red Watch
So Queensland props up NSW's power grid.....

QUEENSLAND power stations will be pumping excess electricity into NSW to prevent blackouts south of the border.

Energy Minister Mark Bailey said about 1000 megawatts would be sent through the interconnector with NSW.

“We have got the youngest, most efficient fleet of base-load generators in the country,” he said.



He forgot to add that was thanks to the foresight of Joh Bjelke Peterson whose government spent heavily on building such infrastructure in Qld, unlike any government since then.

I was not being political as I did like a lot of things he did for Queensland unlike Newman.

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#1433153 - 07/09/2017 14:36 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Huge win for Turnbull in the High Court today; huge loss for equality. Now we wait to let people vote on my rights.

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#1433154 - 07/09/2017 14:46 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC

He forgot to add that was thanks to the foresight of Joh Bjelke Peterson whose government spent heavily on building such infrastructure in Qld, unlike any government since then.


I honestly do not know were I stand on Joh. On one hand you are correct, he did have foresight beyond the next election (one could argue that he knew he was going to always win) and did cut through the red tape so many hate here.

On the other hand some of deals with mates building resorts was down right corrupt.

I used to almost admire his dealings with the press, none of the crap today's mob spiel. He would just say things " so what', and "don't you worry about that".

I also think that unlike the current crop of politicians he was not playing the tax evasion games with Cayman Islands, etc.

Happy to be corrected as I am from NSW where we had Wran, who had a partnership with Turnbull turn on the Panama papers, not to mention corruption from the likes of Obeid, Tripodi, MacDonald, which is a bad as it gets (can't wait to see Obeid rot in gaol)
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#1433155 - 07/09/2017 14:47 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Huge win for Turnbull in the High Court today; huge loss for equality. Now we wait to let people vote on my rights.


Don't you mean Abbott
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#1433164 - 07/09/2017 15:45 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Huge win for Turnbull in the High Court today; huge loss for equality. Now we wait to let people vote on my rights.
And all this time I thought we were the clever country.
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#1433170 - 07/09/2017 16:38 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ozthunder]
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder


I honestly do not know were I stand on Joh. On one hand you are correct, he did have foresight beyond the next election (one could argue that he knew he was going to always win) and did cut through the red tape so many hate here.

On the other hand some of deals with mates building resorts was down right corrupt.



I think the difference between the old National party of forty years ago and the labor party under Beattie, was the Beattie government was smarter and never got caught.

The old National Party of forty years ago while they most certainly had quite obvious corruption in it, it was still for the benefit of the state as a whole. Due to the gerrymander they did not have to worry about keeping the large urban populations content.

No one can possibly deny since Labor took over they pushed Brisbane and deserted the rest of the state, as shown now by the lack of industry and high unemployment in regional Qld compared to Brisbane.

Why anyone in regional Qld would vote labor is beyond me, unless you have a government job.

If I was in Brisbane the choice would be less obvious as Labor looks after Brisbane. It just throws a few scraps for the regions to fight over.

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