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#122296 - 29/03/2007 19:30 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
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Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Yeah, some phenomenal falls up North!

96mm so far here on Waiheke since about the same time last night and still going strong - great for the tanks!
Most of this moisture has hitched a ride from TC Becky via a high altitude jet stream - we're basically sucking it dry!
:p

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#122297 - 29/03/2007 20:29 Re: New Zealand Weather
Squid Offline
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Registered: 03/09/2005
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Loc: Caboolture
just as well my parents live on a hill
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#122298 - 29/03/2007 20:54 Re: New Zealand Weather
Willoughby Offline
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Registered: 10/05/2003
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Loc: Darwin NT
Gotta love this moisture!! laugh laugh

Though probably not if your house gets swept away. shocked

Second burst of torrential rain is sliding from the west shortly..

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#122299 - 29/03/2007 21:59 Re: New Zealand Weather
Johnoo Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
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Loc: From: Where it forgot to Rain....
Yep Just heard it make the news here on the radio amazing stuff you guys seems to have sucked the life out of Becky alright

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#122300 - 30/03/2007 09:02 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
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Loc: Wellington, NZ
Pretty serious stuff.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4011016a10.html

Some spots will have accumulated close to 500mm in this event.

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#122301 - 30/03/2007 10:18 Re: New Zealand Weather
Bryan Offline
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Registered: 24/12/2002
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Well, without having to read through all 42 wonderful pages of information, i was wondering what a good and reliable internet site is for New Zealand weather is? I am traveling over to NZ (Christchurch etc) at the end of next week and am wondering what the weather will be *without coming on here and asking the question straight out :p *

Regards
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#122302 - 30/03/2007 10:53 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
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Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Ended up with 123mm here on Waiheke - clearing now.

Rains are still falling over the Coromandel Peninsular (to our E) - currently up to 400mm since Wednesday morn.

The storm is now moving down into the Bay of Plenty where Tauranga Airport has already recorded at least 100mm in the last 48 hrs to 9am.

For the same period, Auckland City received about 83mm, while Auckland Airport only recorded 54mm.

Whangarei Airport recorded 283mm in the same period.

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#122303 - 30/03/2007 11:00 Re: New Zealand Weather
Squid Offline
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Registered: 03/09/2005
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Loc: Caboolture
bryan metservice is a good site for Nz weather forcasts

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php
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#122304 - 30/03/2007 12:29 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
Posts: 601
Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Bryan:
Well, without having to read through all 42 wonderful pages of information, i was wondering what a good and reliable internet site is for New Zealand weather is? I am traveling over to NZ (Christchurch etc) at the end of next week and am wondering what the weather will be *without coming on here and asking the question straight out :p *

Regards
Bryan
Hi Bryan

Wouldn't even like to hazard a guess at this stage - NZ's weather is way too fickle at this time of year.

However, suggest you keep an eye on MetVUW\'s 7 Day Forecast Charts which I think are based on GFS. For long range, the South West Pacific option will give you a pretty good idea of the overall patterns.

Also here's an 18 hr Isobaric Forecast Animation . And a great little 24 hr SWP Historic Satellite Animation .

Hope that's of some help. Some South Islanders may have a few more suggestions.
:cheers:

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#122305 - 30/03/2007 17:12 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
Posts: 444
Loc: Wellington, NZ
Wellington temps. got to about 26C today (prob. not the 28C cited on TV!). Good enough for a swim.

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#122306 - 31/03/2007 09:34 Re: New Zealand Weather
rainfan Offline
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Registered: 07/09/2006
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Loc: Bondi, Sydney
The rains experienced in Northland is being described as a one-in-a hundred year event.

Quite a good month sunshine and temperature wise over most of NZ - Auckland hasnt done too well this month in the sunshine stakes.

My brother rang me from Invercargill and said its been humid with warm N winds atm.

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#122307 - 31/03/2007 09:44 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
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Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Yes 'pretty serious stuff' alright...


Near Kerikeri. Photo Kerry Sinclair (NZ herald)


A few pics of the Northland floods from the NZ Herald Photo-gallery
And from Geoff Mackley (also includes shots of the Mt Ruapehu Lahar on the 18th).


Yes, here's an excerpt from a TVNZ story...
Quote:
Weather bomb will go down in history
Mar 30, 2007

Northland's wild weather on Thursday is being described as the worst in 150 years.

Records show it was the biggest single rainfall in the region in such a short time.  It experienced a colossal dumping of water in just 36 hours.

The region has been stung by wicked weather many times before, but Thursday's weather bomb will go down in history.

"It was extremely rare," Niwa principle scientist Dr Jim Sallinger says.  "We're looking at the figures now and for a one day event between Mangawai, Whangarei and Kerikeri it looks like at least 125 years, and for the two day event it looks like 150 years."

But it is unlikely to be another 150 years before it returns.

Scientists say the El Nino weather pattern is officially over but La Nina could be here within months and that means winter will be wet.

Sallinger says while La Nina brings cold water to the Pacific Ocean, that causes warmer than normal water temperatures around New Zealand and more northerly and north easterly winds.

He says it could also mean more storms, more often, like the one in the Far North.

"From the phenomena point of view it's very exciting, but then again it causes a lot of damage and sometimes threatens lives, so from that perspective it is very serious and costly."
And here's an excerpt from a NZ Herald story quoting basically the same figures, but with a slightly different conclusion -
Quote:
Photos: Storm\'s severity even more unusual than first thought
12:45PM Friday March 30, 2007

...While based on past-climate data, Northland had suffered a one-in-more-than-100-years deluge, Dr Salinger said: "As the climate warms, this is the sort of thing we expect to see more often."

He added: "As climate warming occurs, the atmosphere can hold more moisture and therefore more rain falls and therefore what we have thought of under past-climate data as one-in-100 or more reduces and might be one-in-50 years or 1-in-20 years."

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#122308 - 31/03/2007 09:57 Re: New Zealand Weather
rainfan Offline
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Registered: 07/09/2006
Posts: 1129
Loc: Bondi, Sydney
Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek

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#122309 - 31/03/2007 10:07 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
Posts: 444
Loc: Wellington, NZ
Cloudy and windy today in W'gton - yesterday local temps. ranged from about 26C to 30C. Monthly rainfall should be under 40mm, sun about 230 hrs.

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#122310 - 31/03/2007 10:55 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
Posts: 601
Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek
Except that we probably don't have reliable records that far back confused

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#122311 - 31/03/2007 11:30 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
Posts: 444
Loc: Wellington, NZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek
Except that we probably don't have reliable records that far back confused [/b]
That's not a showstopper (BTW, some places do have continuous or composite records 140+ years old). The statistical distribution in a "stationary" series allows good estimates of probabilities of extreme deviations being exceeded.

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#122312 - 01/04/2007 06:44 Re: New Zealand Weather
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
Posts: 601
Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Here's a few excerpts from a 2003 report by the Northland Regional Council ...
Quote:
Natural Hazards affecting Northland

On 19 and 20 March 1981 the Kerikeri basin catchment was subjected to a rainfall event resulting from intense thunderstorm activity. This event exceeded any other rainfall recorded in New Zealand for an 8.5-hour duration. A maximum rainfall amount of 448mm was recorded in the Kapiro catchment, with a recorded rainfall intensity of 174mm in 2.5 hours.

Whether it is due to global warming or simply the heavy rain phase of cyclic weather patterns, Northland is subject to extremely heavy rainfall events and these appear to be occurring more frequently. Another explanation could well be, and there is some evidence, that extremely high intensity but very localised rainstorms have always been a feature of Northland's climate, and have strongly influenced the landform of parts of the region. Because the heavy rainfall events have tended to hit more remote and less populated areas, few reliable records exist. But it is likely that they occur much more frequently than previously thought.

Flooding from rivers is by far the most widespread and most frequently occurring natural hazard affecting Northland. The upper tributaries of Northland's rivers drop steeply from the region's mountain ranges and hill country. Sediment carried by the rivers has been deposited in the lower valleys, and particularly in the tidal reaches, to create floodplains.

While by their very nature, these floodplains would have been subject to frequent inundation by rivers, clearance of bush from the catchments, changes in the river regimes due to increased sediment loads, and changes in riparian vegetation, have increased the frequency of overflows from the channels.

Flooding of the rivers and floodplains has only become a hazard since humans occupied the flood-prone land and erected structures over and beside the rivers. Similarly, flooding of land adjoining the coast and around tidal estuaries by storm surges and exceptionally high tides has only become a problem since that land has been developed for urban or even farming uses. Most towns in Northland are built partly on floodplains and are subject to flooding.
P.S. Very little has been mentioned about the 402mm recorded at 'The Pinnacles' on the Coromandel Peninsular between Wednesday morn and Friday morn.

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#122313 - 01/04/2007 06:56 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
Posts: 444
Loc: Wellington, NZ
At least they stopped trying to farm some of the steep Eastland hill slopes after Bola!

Re Coromandel, must be a case of "less impact". And Coromandel has a more regular diet of very heavy rainfalls - there's a significant portion where rainfall means exceed 2500mm.

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#122314 - 02/04/2007 12:37 Re: New Zealand Weather
RWood Offline
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Registered: 23/11/2006
Posts: 444
Loc: Wellington, NZ
NIWA summary for March:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0703sum.pdf

Northland event in sharp contrast to most/all of the country in the rest of the month [but see Coromandel as above]

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#122315 - 02/04/2007 14:21 Re: New Zealand Weather
rainfan Offline
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Registered: 07/09/2006
Posts: 1129
Loc: Bondi, Sydney
Certainly a much warmer month than the summer months smile .

Invercargill had its 2nd warmest March on record so my brother was telling the truth when he said it was far warmer laugh than the summer months although he did mention there was a week of cold and wet SW-W weather around the middle of the month.

*Wow* at Alexandra recording max temps of 30oC + on 6 days of the month.

How would this March rate in terms of among the top 10 warmest Marchs NZ-wide since records began?

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