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#1377571 - 02/06/2016 18:28 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
desieboy Offline
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This article makes lots of sense..

Staying safe in croc country
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#1377744 - 03/06/2016 18:59 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Well researched article there Desie..

Anyway it sounds like they have killed the poor bugga..oh man, its just so sad..there was just absolutely no need..

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/...ocid=spartanntp

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#1377748 - 03/06/2016 19:26 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Grubs. Killed as punishment for the stupidity of others. Makes me sick. I remember when both the child was taken on the Daintree River and Arthur Booker up in the Endeavour River , both sets of relatives said they did not want the crocodiles killed and accepted that gross misjudgement by people was the cause.
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#1378013 - 04/06/2016 12:09 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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I cant think of anything worse than doing the autopsy on that Croc they caught and killed. It seems it was the one likely responsible after human remains were found in its stomach.

It must have been a horrific last few minutes of life for that lady. Wrong place at the wrong time.
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#1378042 - 04/06/2016 13:23 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Apparently this woman's relatives requested the croc not be killed also. So the authorities have denied their request.
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#1378115 - 04/06/2016 18:00 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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I guess relatives from New Zealand don't have much of a say in it when a multi million dollar tourism destination is tarnished with a fatal croc attack in peak tourism season. No doubt numbers to the area will take a hit for the short term. Maybe removing it alleviates this somewhat. Maybe the police and rangers needed to be sure it was an attack and not some other mysterious vanishing person. Having closure is good. Not for the croc though. No doubt the croc was just going about its usual habits/movements when it had an irresistible option of a swimmer presenting itself right in its path.
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#1378122 - 04/06/2016 18:30 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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"Maybe the police and rangers needed to be sure it was an attack and not some other mysterious vanishing person."

You know, I never really thought of that..I guess that is a consideration when there is only one witness..

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#1378128 - 04/06/2016 18:56 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Yeah it makes sense.
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#1378132 - 04/06/2016 19:06 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Corroborates the ladies friend and proves to a large extent the "Cause of Death" which is evidence needed for the State Coroner to make a finding.

Very unfortunate thing for the deceased and her family.

As far as the nearby accommodation pushing the safe beach angle, they need "sorting". Publicity like that breeds disregard for natures creatures and talks down the risks that exist.
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#1378133 - 04/06/2016 19:11 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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As far as i know they killed the croc AFTER finding the initial remains. It can be done by flushing the animals stomach with a hose. If that is true it still sounds like a pointless revenge killing.

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#1378136 - 04/06/2016 19:24 Re: Crocs [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz



As far as the nearby accommodation pushing the safe beach angle, they need "sorting". Publicity like that breeds disregard for natures creatures and talks down the risks that exist.




It will be interesting to see if anything ever happens about that sign. They are certainly culpable to some degree.
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#1378138 - 04/06/2016 19:27 Re: Crocs [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
As far as i know they killed the croc AFTER finding the initial remains. It can be done by flushing the animals stomach with a hose. If that is true it still sounds like a pointless revenge killing.
Oh ok I didn't realize they already found what was left of her body....did they trap or shoot the croc..?

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#1378144 - 04/06/2016 19:38 Re: Crocs [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
As far as the nearby accommodation pushing the safe beach angle, they need "sorting". Publicity like that breeds disregard for natures creatures and talks down the risks that exist.



You mean the backpackers at the next beach to the north that claims its "croc free"..?..haha..seems some folk will say anything to make an extra buck..its a preposterous claim and in response to an email to them ,despite them removing their webpage,they insist that there has never been a croc there in 50 years at least ....its such a dangerous message to send to impressionable tourists...

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#1378154 - 04/06/2016 20:05 Re: Crocs [Re: scott12]
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Originally Posted By: scott12 (pogo)
Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
As far as i know they killed the croc AFTER finding the initial remains. It can be done by flushing the animals stomach with a hose. If that is true it still sounds like a pointless revenge killing.
Oh ok I didn't realize they already found what was left of her body....did they trap or shoot the croc..?


Trapped the croc initially. Then as i understand it they found remains and then shot the croc.
Not saying this is accurate though. We all know to take any media story with a grain of salt. Especially those involving crocs.


Edited by Brett Guy (04/06/2016 20:05)

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#1378159 - 04/06/2016 20:25 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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From the accom. House site - ( I somewhat cherry picked the page ) -

" The fact is no crocodiles go near our beach for many reasons and considering we have not had any sightings for over 40 years we can say our beach is croc free!

"Now in November 2006 there was an attack in Cape Tribulation but before you start to worry, let us look at this in detail."

"When the injured Belgian finally made his way in to the pharmacy it became clear that the bite was not all that serious, though the whole ambulance and police circus still made their way up to Cape Tribulation, a 1.5 hour trip from the nearest town Mossman."

"Cape Tribulation locals were annoyed with the stupid behavior."


Reference to "circus" for the Emergency Service personnel responding is pretty low brow IMO and doesn't do them any credit.

Put this shortcut - http://www.capetribbeach.com.au/cape-tribulation-beach-house-truth-crocodile-attacks/

Into this cache site - http://cachedview.com/

Do a google search where indicated to get to the original page taken down now, but visible here -

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.capetribbeach.com.au/cape-tribulation-beach-house-truth-crocodile-attacks/

Thanks to the poster who mentioned the cachesite smile

Unless there is a demonstrated nexus between the Accom. page and the deceased's actions they probably wouldn't be civilly liable CF, but who knows what will come of this.

BG - much more "direct evidence" if the animal is trapped, shot, removed to Lab. and PM to find remains...better for the Inquest than trying to flush the croc. insitu or in the area I'm guessing.
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#1378237 - 05/06/2016 07:08 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
Brett Guy Offline
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Yeah Samboz. I agree that is probably the reason but personally i don't agree it should happen that way. That is just my oppinion though

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#1378267 - 05/06/2016 10:27 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Another will take over the spot Brett, no shortage of them if you believe the media reports.

Mankind culls the problem animal, this is another example.
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#1378302 - 05/06/2016 12:09 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Absolutely disgraceful that the croc was shot. Makes my blood boil.


Edited by Dawgggg (05/06/2016 12:10)
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#1378390 - 05/06/2016 18:24 Re: Crocs [Re: samboz]
Brett Guy Offline
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Another will take over the spot Brett, no shortage of them if you believe the media reports.

Mankind culls the problem animal, this is another example.



Not necessarily just one. Big crocs are extremely intolerant of competition and when you remove a big dominant male it is likely he will be replaced by more than one smaller but no less dangerous crocs. I think taking the big ones is about the worst thing you could do. To be honest. I have always found the smaller 3.5m males to be the most dangerous anyway.


Edited by Brett Guy (05/06/2016 18:24)

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#1378405 - 05/06/2016 18:58 Re: Crocs [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
I have always found the smaller 3.5m males to be the most dangerous anyway.



How much difference is there in terms of bold ,aggressive behavior towards humans from the different sexes and sizes of crocs and at what size do you believe they start to see adult humans as prey..?..pretty general question of course but any ideas..?

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