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#1249098 - 15/03/2014 11:59 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
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Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
An interest take on things from a comments section of a news article. Suicidal pilot.

"2 hours in to a flight is usually when, on a two person flight deck,
someone usually needs a bathroom break. During this bathroom break one of the
pilot was locked out of the cockpit and the aircraft manually
depressurized by the suicidal , religiously motivated pilot. After 10-15 minutes at 40K feet,
all the passengers would have died as their oxygen depleted. After 20-30
minutes, all the flight attendants portable oxygen bottles would have
then been depleted. Cockpit oxygen supply lasts much longer.

During the frantic depressurization scene, the rogue muslim pilot dons his
oxygen mask, kills the transponder, ACARS data link and the cockpit
voice recorder. Only a seasoned pilot would know where these items were
in a sophisticated cockpit. He turns the plane towards the deepest part
of the ocean within 3-4 hours of flying time. A simple Google Earth
search would reveal he didn't need to fly far. Reversing course leads to
the deepest water in shortest distance/time. Deep ocean water would
make recovering the Black box next to impossible and he knew that. "
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#1249108 - 15/03/2014 13:03 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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It is a disgrace the way this is all being handled...there are a million experts, thousands more theories and yet very little collaboration to actually find the best way to approach this. Information is being withheld.

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#1249112 - 15/03/2014 13:31 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Apparently just read that information was being withheld from the public forum due to the fact that they didn't want saboteurs or hijackers to know what is happening with the search etc... and the fact they may be on to them...
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#1249117 - 15/03/2014 14:23 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Yeah imagine it just sitting on the ground somewhere and behind the scenes the various countries are coordinating a big, Navy seal, commando raid on the plane? To apprehend the hijackers and save the hostages. Hollywood will be all over this in a few years. Anything is possible.
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#1249118 - 15/03/2014 14:23 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Facebook is over run by conspiracy nutters who crawl out from under their rock in these events. The best most can do is copy and paste links from freak blogs and other like minded nutters. They need to find this plane to shut these idiots up.
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#1249119 - 15/03/2014 14:26 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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A lot of theories are plausible rain gauge if it was as simple as it just crashed into the ocean then so be it but I dont think it was as simple as that. What's your theory then rain gauge?
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#1249120 - 15/03/2014 14:30 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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The plane has vanished. I think it's most likely at the bottom of the ocean which is why no signals have been found. I would've expected some debris by now, but every plane crash is different. Id prefer to wait until some things found ,rather than filling in the blanks with outrageous theories that have bigger holes in it then any official theory.
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#1249122 - 15/03/2014 14:44 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Pretty wild that a 200 tonne plane 70X60meters with 239 peoples bags, carry on, life vests, chairs, cups, plates, just nose dives in and disappears without a trace. No break up on entry, no debris, no signs or anything.

I guess if it was pointed down and hit with speed the whole plane would be 100+metres down and descending deeper almost straight away.
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#1249126 - 15/03/2014 15:08 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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I agree it is a mystery.
However that dosn't mean conspiracy or even hijacking.
I guess we will just have to wait and see when they find the plane if it's just a accident or a crime.


Edited by rain gauge (15/03/2014 15:11)
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#1249132 - 15/03/2014 15:23 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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No ones certain of what actually happened but most agree it was no accident....but there's definitely more to the story than is being told that is for sure.

All we can do is wait......and wait ...and wait for some answers.
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#1249148 - 15/03/2014 16:19 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
rain gauge Offline
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Or it could be as simple as this example from a few years ago.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409703/Ghost-flight-horror-crash-blamed-pilots.html


The only real facts are the planes missing.
Everything else is speculation
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#1249162 - 15/03/2014 16:51 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: rain gauge]
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[quote=rain gauge]Or it could be as simple as this example from a few years ago.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409703/Ghost-flight-horror-crash-blamed-pilots.html


Yes well that was just plain old human error by two couldn't really call it a complete accident.
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#1249166 - 15/03/2014 16:55 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Media conference on ABC 24/Sky news soon from Malaysian Prime Minister. Should be interesting to see the updates and what rumours will be quashed.
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#1249185 - 15/03/2014 17:17 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Just come to hand:

A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.

The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.

The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. "It is conclusive
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#1249192 - 15/03/2014 17:38 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Yep that all just confirmed in latest press conference from Prime Minister of Malaysia. Hijacking. 3 separate organisations conclusively have come up with a similar outcome from the data at hand.
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#1249202 - 15/03/2014 18:01 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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And what I said the other day was not far off the truth they say it may have flown all the way to W.A ..... smirk
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#1249207 - 15/03/2014 18:25 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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It could be a hijacking gone wrong or even a crew member commiting suicide. What is known is its consistent with a deliberate act (but not conclusive)how can it be since no one actually saw any act committed.
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#1249219 - 15/03/2014 19:16 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Don't the know answer to that rain gauge but I'd say the military probably know what is going on with what has already happened and that part of things they just don't know where the plane is.
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#1249225 - 15/03/2014 19:42 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Reports now indicate it may have flown 7 hours deliberately off course and instruments and signals back to control towers were all slowly turned off.it could be anywhere from Kazakhstan too the southern indian ocean.This is a very big development..
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#1249226 - 15/03/2014 19:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Next thing we know MH370 will suddenly appear on radar, refuelled, nuke onboard and heading towards a target with 239 hostages on board. Now that's speculation....
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