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#1248506 - 12/03/2014 01:22 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Thunderstruck Offline
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Registered: 10/05/2001
Posts: 15024
Loc: Seaford Meadows, SA
Seems to me like this is some form of giant cover up. Malaysia know a LOT LOT more than we have been told and slowly bits are leaking out now. From PPrune forums:

What we heard/know:

MH370 made a turn at about 2:40 and at the same time all comms die...At 2:43 a US base supposedly receives a message from MH370 that the cabin is "disintegrating" 1:10 later MH370 is spotted on military radar being near Pulau Perak...no debris anywhere along route.

Two PAX with stolen passports are not related to any terrorist org.

Conclusions:

-MH370 did not crash on/near the route
-Turn was manually initiated & comms disabled
-Plane was evidently still flying 1:10 after it had "disappeared"
-Most likely not a terrorist related event

But nothing really makes sense. I don't think it is in the Gulf of Thailand. West of the mainland....how far west I don't know.


Edited by Thunderstruck (12/03/2014 01:23)

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#1248507 - 12/03/2014 01:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Thunderstruck Offline
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Registered: 10/05/2001
Posts: 15024
Loc: Seaford Meadows, SA
West of Phuket or somewhere in the Andaman Sea....keeping in mind the pinger is only good for 30 days as well, after which well, if they don't have a good ballpark area, they may never find it.

TS cool

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#1248509 - 12/03/2014 02:21 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Long Road Home Offline
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Registered: 08/10/2007
Posts: 8802
Loc: Northern Beaches Syd
Strange. Pilot suicide is another possibility (alike Silkair flight 185).

But now there's another bizarre development, the passengers phones are still ringing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...nes-active.html

If this is indeed true it may indicate the plane has hit land as phones wouldn't work underwater. I reckon it's crashed somewhere in southern parts of Vietnam with the pilot intentionally emptying the fuel tank (oil slicks) to prevent it exploding upon landing.

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#1248513 - 12/03/2014 07:43 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
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Military now have come out and said they tracked it west once its radar turned off at a height of 10 000 Meters.


What the hells going on
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#1248536 - 12/03/2014 10:28 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
yeah the transponder was turned off. the oil found in the gulf has been tested and its from a ship not an airplane. yesterday they moved the search to cover the malacca straight on the western side of the malayan mainland, now we know why.
hijacking attempt?
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#1248547 - 12/03/2014 12:12 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 28/11/2011
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ALIENS !!!! wink

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#1248588 - 12/03/2014 16:37 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
desieboy Offline
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Posts: 3838
Loc: Broome


Hope they find it soon for everyone's sake...
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#1248593 - 12/03/2014 16:42 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
desieboy Offline
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About the current search area and finding the plane it had just been said that the comparative would be like someone throwing a five cent piece on the ground of the SCG and them getting 10 people to look for it....
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#1248730 - 13/03/2014 11:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Thunderstruck Offline
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Registered: 10/05/2001
Posts: 15024
Loc: Seaford Meadows, SA
Looks like China are on the ball. They have released satellite images now of 3 objects, one especially to me looks like a mid section of a plane with wings minus the nose and tail. And I don't think China would risk world embarrassment by releasing images unless they were sure. Also probably have higher res ones themselves on the inside. The location of these images though is well EAST not west of the last known signal from the plane. Also correlates well with the oil rig chap's observation it came down mostly intact and in flames.

Looks like the radar image thing the west was something else. I think this will be it.

TS cool

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#1248812 - 13/03/2014 18:37 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Long Road Home Offline
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Registered: 08/10/2007
Posts: 8802
Loc: Northern Beaches Syd
What are the chances if was struck by a bolt out of the blue? I read somewhere that CA (Clear air) strikes can be more powerful than regular incloud or CG strikes and can travel a fair distance from the thunder head itself even if the air in the vicinity is clear.

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#1248815 - 13/03/2014 18:56 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
Posts: 7918
Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
I think they are going to need to call on the services of James Bond. I think its been flown to a remote runway and is sitting under cover being held by hijackers. Definitely a job for Bond.
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#1248829 - 13/03/2014 20:03 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
desieboy Offline
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Registered: 31/12/2002
Posts: 3838
Loc: Broome
Now there saying

"U.S. investigators now suspect the aircraft stayed airborne for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to the publication's sources.

The WSJ referenced engine data which its sources claim indicates the plane continued to fly for hours beyond its last known location.

A total flight time of five hours could put the flight's final destination at the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea"

Where the hell is it and what happened ?????? confused cry cry crazy crazy eek
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#1248838 - 13/03/2014 20:39 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 25/03/2007
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5 days now. Its a joke.

what the hells going on.
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#1248840 - 13/03/2014 20:42 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
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Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
Why fly it 4 hours further and crash it into the sea. Wouldn't it me insane to have it turn up on land hidden and the passengers still alive.

A question. Would this be possible and how could it possibly go undetected. Seems about a 1% chance but you have to consider it.

I guess you need a big runway to land a plane that big and a big hanger to hide it from satellites.
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#1248841 - 13/03/2014 20:48 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Brett Guy Offline
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Registered: 05/10/2010
Posts: 5159
Loc: Bently Park, Cairns
Yeah. I can't see how you could land a 777 somewhere without it being noticed. Unfortunately it has gone down, it's just a matter of finding it.

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#1248842 - 13/03/2014 20:49 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23724
Loc: Townsville
Boeing 777 from memory has a wingspan of 60m and a length of 60m too.

Bloody big shack to hold it somewhere hey haha
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#1248845 - 13/03/2014 21:40 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
surely at some point, some debris is going to be seen from the air, from a boat or wash up on a beach. SE asia is so heavily populated something will show up, just a matter of when!
still possible it was hijacked and then maybe they crashed it or a fight occurred on board?
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#1248911 - 14/03/2014 15:07 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
desieboy Offline
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Registered: 31/12/2002
Posts: 3838
Loc: Broome

Now we are being told that;

US officials said that because two separate communication systems were shut down separately, the plane did not suffer a catastrophic accident.
"According to data obtained, the reporting system was shut down at 1.07am (Malaysia time) and the transponder at 1.21am.

This suggested that the shut down in communications was deliberate, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.

Another US official said that they may have an "indication" of where the missing flight may be located, and have switched focus to the Indian Ocean."

Wonder if it in the bush in the Kimberley somewhere??? shocked Will have alook when I walk the dog after work... laugh

Now its getting stranger by the minute. frown
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#1248928 - 14/03/2014 16:26 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
desieboy Offline
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You can track a shark for thousands of kilometres with a chip even when it drops to the bottom of the ocean ...but you can't track a 60 metre long jet when its out of radar????

In this day and with all our technological achievements it seems just a little stupid wouldn't you agree?
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#1248938 - 14/03/2014 17:40 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
Posts: 7918
Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
Had a few pilots out at work yesterday and they were talking about the show 'Air crash Investigations' and how each episode was based around a crash and the new safety regulations introduced to the airline industry due to that crash.

Guess what will be the new safety regulations introduced after this incident is figured out? Tracking, transfer of flight data, maybe a few other things that modern technology could easily do.
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