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#1270701 - 22/07/2014 08:06 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Crookhaven River Offline
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Registered: 05/05/2010
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Loc: Crookhaven Heads N.S.W 14m AS...
MH17 black boxes to be handed over to Malaysian authorities - Malaysian PM

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak says the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 black boxes will be handed over to the Malaysians in Donetsk at 9pm Ukrainian time (1900 GMT). The bodies of 282 victims of the crash are to be flown to Amsterdam.

Prime Minister Najib Razak said an agreement had been reached with militiamen at the scene of the crash that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 black boxes will be handed over to Malaysian authorities in Donetsk at 9pm Ukrainian time.

The bodies of 282 victims are being moved by train before being flown to Amsterdam for repatriation. At least three refrigerated train carriages with bodies of those killed have departed from the town of Torez, near the site of the crash, to the town of Ilovaysk and are on their way to Donetsk.

Malaysian aviation experts arrived in Donetsk, eastern Ukraine, to investigate the crash of the MH17 flight. Earlier local militia said they found presumed data recorders at the site and would hand them over to international investigators.

http://rt.com/news/174448-malaysian-pm-mh17-statement/
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#1270703 - 22/07/2014 08:48 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Mick10 Offline
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finally starting to see some common sense come foward over all of this. a few days late, but better late than never.
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#1270714 - 22/07/2014 09:55 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Crookhaven River Offline
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Yeah Mick common sense is thin on the ground in war zones, anyway hats off to quiet Dutch & Malaysian diplomacy.
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#1270739 - 22/07/2014 18:06 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Ukraine rebels hand over MH17 black boxes and let train carrying bodies leave

Four days after the Boeing 777 came crashing down into the fields of eastern Ukraine, the flight recorders from flight MH17 were finally handed over to the Malaysians at a surreal night-time ceremony in Donetsk, while the bodies of 282 victims began a slow train journey out of the country's south-eastern conflict zone.

Almost 12 hours after negotiations with the so-called Donetsk People's Republic, a Malaysian delegation was handed the two "black boxes" – chunky devices which are in fact orange – by Alexander Borodai, the self-styled prime minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, in a late-night press conference guarded by dozens of Kalashnikov-wielding rebels, on the 11th floor of a government building in Donetsk that has been occupied by the rebels.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/mh17-black-boxes-handed-over-pro-russia-rebels
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#1270878 - 23/07/2014 23:47 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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seems like another plane may have gone down in Taiwan. Likely due to the severe weather there.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wire...illing-24675925



Also 2 Su-25s have been shot down by the separatists. For a group with limited fire power and no airforce, they are giving the Ukrainian air force hell.
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#1270964 - 24/07/2014 19:55 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
Posts: 7918
Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
Possibly another airline down just now to. Heard on facebook. Air Algerie missing. Hope its a glitch and all is good but not liking the frequency of air crash incidents of late.

Spain's Swiftair says contact lost with Airbus A320 plane which was expected to land in Algiers; 110 passengers, six crew members on board


Edited by Popeye (24/07/2014 19:56)
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#1270977 - 24/07/2014 23:33 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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#1270978 - 25/07/2014 00:10 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Popeye Offline
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Registered: 30/12/2006
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Loc: Cable Beach - Broome WA
Yeah that's bad news. I guess we will all wake to hear the latest tomorrow. Hoping somehow there were survivors. Not a Airbus A320 either but the MD-83. Not a great period for aviation currently. Hope that will be it for a few years at least. Had enough lately.
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#1271284 - 29/07/2014 20:03 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 17/12/2009
Posts: 2396
Loc: Port Hedland WA / Darwin NT
Here's a bit of an old classic project from work firing up the engines for the first time in over two years after undergoing a complete airframe rebuild to see that she soars for many more years to come.
A bit of her history for those interested....
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austmz/VH-MMA.html

DC-3 Start-Up
by Orebound Images, on Flickr
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#1271293 - 29/07/2014 20:55 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 17/03/2010
Posts: 355
Loc: Angourie, North Coast NSW
Hey all I have an upcoming long haul flight from the Gold Coast to Los Angeles. I'm a bit nervous as my last long haul flight was terrifying after the cockpit caught fire en route from Japan to Brisbane and we had to make an emergency landing in Guam - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-06-11/fire-forces-jetstar-emergency-landing/1710272 this media article dumbs the situation down quite a bit - I mean far out we all knew it was on fire, the cabin crew were clearly in panic mode too & that is NOT what you want above the Pacific Ocean at midnight. I've never flown Jetstar since - ha. I have flown domestically a bit since then and also a few short haul to Fiji & Bali, NZ etc and handled (just) but this one to LA has me nervous.

I'm asking the forum if anyone can recommend the best sedative in case I get anxiety. Valium & a few stiff Gins won't cut it - I want to be completely chilled, I'm sure a GP will write me something up but thought I'd ask on here for recommendations 1st. I'm flying Air New Zealand who have a good record and I'm sure it will all be cool but I don't want to take the risk of doing a Marge Simpson freak out. Thanks
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#1271296 - 29/07/2014 21:12 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Dawoodman Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 1271
Loc: Thoopara; Prossie/ Bayswater
Dose of morphine poke

All I can say is that you have nothing to worry about, count your lucky stars that you were apart of the incident in 2009 as it doesn't happen to most people, guam would have been interesting.

You could take sleeping tablets and try and sleep through the flight but depending on where you are sitting in the plane it might be more difficult to sleep.
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#1271302 - 29/07/2014 22:31 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
ColdFront Offline
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Registered: 29/06/2008
Posts: 19046
Loc: The Beach.
I took half a stilnox each way when flying to Asia soon after taking a seat. 8 hours later I was awoken by the cabin staff. On the return leg everyone seated around me was peeved that I had slept through a kid crying for several hours. No-one else slept a wink. I had half a glass of white wine with it.

I don't get nervous flying Ms Milo, just bored stiff.
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#1271584 - 31/07/2014 18:56 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: Ms Milo]
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23724
Loc: Townsville
Originally Posted By: Ms Milo
Hey all I have an upcoming long haul flight from the Gold Coast to Los Angeles. I'm a bit nervous as my last long haul flight was terrifying after the cockpit caught fire en route from Japan to Brisbane and we had to make an emergency landing in Guam - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-06-11/fire-forces-jetstar-emergency-landing/1710272 this media article dumbs the situation down quite a bit - I mean far out we all knew it was on fire, the cabin crew were clearly in panic mode too & that is NOT what you want above the Pacific Ocean at midnight. I've never flown Jetstar since - ha. I have flown domestically a bit since then and also a few short haul to Fiji & Bali, NZ etc and handled (just) but this one to LA has me nervous.

I'm asking the forum if anyone can recommend the best sedative in case I get anxiety. Valium & a few stiff Gins won't cut it - I want to be completely chilled, I'm sure a GP will write me something up but thought I'd ask on here for recommendations 1st. I'm flying Air New Zealand who have a good record and I'm sure it will all be cool but I don't want to take the risk of doing a Marge Simpson freak out. Thanks


I couldnt imagine being on a plane and knowing something is wrong. I fly very frequently, I do around 6000km a month for work and try not to think about what can go wrong haha. I love flying dont get me wrong, but at times I still get nervous about what can happen. Maybe my addiction to aircrash investigations has something to do with it.
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#1271617 - 31/07/2014 20:19 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Things Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
Posts: 8400
Loc: Blair Athol, SA
For every flight that has issues, there's thousands that don't, air travel is extremely safe these days. I remember being on a flight into Melbourne from QLD once, which is usually a bit bumpy on approach, but this one time the plane literally felt like it dropped a few metres very rapidly. I was looking out the window at the time and the amount the wing flexed was absolutely insane, no way I would have expected a wing to be able to bend that much and still function as normal. It was scary as hell but also a reminder just how safe the aircraft actually are. I remember actually temporarily blacking out when it happened as it was very rapid, but the flight went on just as normal.

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#1271669 - 31/07/2014 23:07 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 25465
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
I feel safer boarding a plane than I do driving the streets of Townsville. and like you trav im a massive aircrash investigations fan!
I have only started flying often this year for work, I feel safe in knowing we have one of the worlds safest air traffic control and aircraft maintenance codes in the world.
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#1271728 - 01/08/2014 07:16 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
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Loc: Townsville
Mick I have Foxtel and its on everyday haha. I have a serious problem.

Im considering taking lessons in TSV Mick. I cant take it anymore haha.
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#1272178 - 04/08/2014 13:32 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 17/12/2009
Posts: 2396
Loc: Port Hedland WA / Darwin NT
Some of the hardware getting around over Darwin this morning as the Pitch Black operations get underway.


Pitch Black 2014
by Orebound Images, on Flickr


Pitch Black 2014
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Pitch Black 2014
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Pitch Black 2014
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Pitch Black 2014
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#1272187 - 04/08/2014 17:15 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Ms Milo Offline
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Registered: 17/03/2010
Posts: 355
Loc: Angourie, North Coast NSW
of interest to my earlier post about flight anxiety - seems it's becoming more predominate

http://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/michaela-mcguire/2014/01/2014/1406871774/crying-high
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#1272193 - 04/08/2014 18:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
Dawoodman Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 1271
Loc: Thoopara; Prossie/ Bayswater
looks like an interesting doco is not too far away....
you can check the trailer out here aviationtheinvisiblehighway.com

looks well done and it will be narrated by Harrison Ford
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#1272258 - 05/08/2014 12:20 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies... [Re: tornadochaser_76]
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Registered: 11/11/2009
Posts: 1954
Loc: Airlie Beach & Brisbane
fuaaar that looks amazing mate!

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