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#1265031 - 30/05/2014 09:48 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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26.4mm in the 24 hrs to 9am, most of that fell in the early hours of this morning.
Quite overcast this morning with very light westerly winds and the odd drizzle patch about.
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#1265057 - 30/05/2014 15:48 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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It's funny weather. Even the 'cool' days like today reach 21 degrees (70 F) at Obervatory Hill. A few decades ago when degrees were Fahrenheit, 70 degrees would have been very unusual in Winter or this close to Winter. Not now. The last day that failed to reach 70 (21.1) at OH was May 8 (21.0).

In fact, Observatory Hill looks like getting into June having experienced only two sub-20 maxima since the start of the year, with 30 of 31 days in May having reached at least 20 degrees C. That must be a record.

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#1265058 - 30/05/2014 15:54 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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I can see some well developed Cumulus clouds out to sea off Sydney. I suspect there's always the chance of spotting a spout or three under one of them if you are able to keep an eye out.

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#1265060 - 30/05/2014 16:45 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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By contrast it was an Antarctic 19C here and at a few other sites, it was under 70F yesterday as well. Despite the obvious UHI effect at OH, the airmass is still very mild for a southerly airflow being roughly 11C @ 925 hPa which is more typical of a October/November change.

I'm sure a few have seen this article, and yes it mentions ice-cream vendors. One wonders if the author took a sticky beak in here:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/winners-and-losers-in-sydneys-endless-summer-20140527-zrprq.html

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#1265069 - 30/05/2014 19:00 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: ant]
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Originally Posted By: ant
What an exciting evening. Drive home was challenging, with shiny road, tailgating Canberra drivers, huge wind gusts and driving rain.

And, I saw something I've never seen. coming around the back of the Canberra Airport runway (south east end), saw a jet, think it was QF, coming in to land and I was thinking bloody hell as the car was being punched by the wind, and it was lower than they normally come over that road, and up it went.... a go round! I've been in planes landing at CBR and MEL in horrible gusty winds, high-power landings, but have never been in a go-around. Wow, wow, wow.

Series of rains and winds up at home, had a power outage for about 20 seconds at one point, and when the wind punched the house and made it wobble, I got the console. It went from 55 km/hr to 73.4 km/hr. then back to mid 60s, back to 50s, and now it's died right back to 27 km/hr. Storm squalls.

Looks like it's all done for the night, there's nothing to the west of us..

all QANTAS landings have to be stable @ 500ft eg constant rate descent and airspeed or miss the landing if you get bounced you miss approach or if gusty and you start to drop go around

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#1265070 - 30/05/2014 19:15 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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We actually had a mostly sunny day, but it did feel quite crisp in the afternoon with the brisk southerly and it struggled to 20 degrees. There was also decent cumulus clouds out to sea and as Kizz said it could have been interesting for waterspout development.
In fact as these showers on the radar move slowly towards the coast I may even hear a rumble or two, if I'm lucky! smile
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#1265074 - 30/05/2014 19:33 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: HumphreyBear]
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Just looked out the window. It's raining for the first time since before the middle of the month.

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#1265075 - 30/05/2014 19:38 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Most of the Basin will have to rely on Sunday for some decent rain I think. Yr.no progs about 2 mm here overnight 10 km inland, we will see. Any rain this month has been extremely coastal; Blackheath has only had about 15 mm for the month, that is dry.

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#1265079 - 30/05/2014 20:32 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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We've only had 5.4mm (sigh) and I agree DB Sunday actually has the potential for half decent rain and I wouldn't rule out the chance of a storm or two either grin
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#1265090 - 30/05/2014 21:41 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: stormymick]
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Originally Posted By: stormymick
all QANTAS landings have to be stable @ 500ft eg constant rate descent and airspeed or miss the landing if you get bounced you miss approach or if gusty and you start to drop go around


Interesting. He was definitely lower than they usually are, in fact I've always wondered why they come in so high and spend ages gliding in over the runway before they finally touch down. He had his array of lights blazing, and as he came to the road he just lifted up again! The wind was horrible, slamming the car, but imagine being in that plane, ye gods.

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#1265093 - 30/05/2014 23:08 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Driving home from Bankstown Centro there was a slight shower, I was quite surprised as I didn't think any showers will reach this far inland. Not to mention it was mostly a clear sky bar a few clouds overhead.

Gives me some hope that some of those showers offshore actually have a chance of reaching here.

It's been a long while since a half decent drop fell.

Total for Bankstown is 7.2 mm for the month with 2.8mm on the 3rd and 3.4mmon the 4th of May with 0.6 on the 9th while 0.2 fell on the 14th.

April had 38.8 mm and the first and last time of the month when last >10mm fell was the 12th of April. Shocking for our statistically wettest time of the year. frown


Edited by Perfect Storm (30/05/2014 23:16)

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#1265099 - 30/05/2014 23:53 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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I think Sydney should see between 15 to 30mm next couple of days perhaps more if convergence showers get going near the coast. ACT should see similar totals. Some places on and west of the ranges especially around the Central west slopes & plains, Southern tablelands & Central tablelands could see 20 to 60mm. Good follow up after last week.
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#1265119 - 31/05/2014 08:44 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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they bring em in high for safety as if and engine fails you can pull back on power and glide in were if your low on a high power landing then your in more trouble because you become asymmetric when you apply power the aircraft wants to yaw to the dead engine and its a big handful to hand esp in canberra you need a good climb rate to clear the hills he was low in high winds prob to bring it in hot (higher airspeed usually 10% of wind speed added to approach allowing a high power landing then the turbines are spooled up ready for a go around the slightest uneasy feeling or instability play it safe and go around landing in those conditions aint to hard for em once a month they gett hell week in the sim lol then they earn money

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#1265344 - 03/06/2014 10:37 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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A dull cloudy "tablelands" day here in Bx. Feels quite cool with zero blue sky. Cloud low and slate grey, doesn't offer precip despite a slight appearance of the possibility.

A friend just sent me a photo from Wentworth Falls and it looks nice and sunny over there.

Feels much more like a winters day here today. Still only just above 8 degrees with a cool breeze.

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#1265357 - 03/06/2014 13:57 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Yes, was just thinking this was the first real classic winter's day of the season, although of course it's a bluebird day here on the hot side of the hill. But can see the first of the Cu puffies to the west. Temp still a degree or two above where it should be though, but at least the feel is right. Looks like it will be short lived though as some more humid southerly/easterly weather is on the way, hopefully we'll get a decent drop this time.

8C was the minimum here this morning incidentally, and it got into the 5s in the hollows.

Bx still looks very wintery even now, nice.

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#1265361 - 03/06/2014 14:26 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Definitely a much cooler day, have not made it to 10 degrees yet (almost but not quite)

Still heavy low overcast, no sunshine. Dull with a reasonably cool breeze.

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#1265364 - 03/06/2014 15:50 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: stormymick]
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Originally Posted By: stormymick
they bring em in high for safety as if and engine fails you can pull back on power and glide in ...


Nice explanation, thanks. I've always wondered why they come in and hang for ages over the runway, it feels like there won't be enough left to land without slamming on the brakes! When Obama's jumbo landed there a year or so back (we were hanging on the fence watching) they sure didn't do that, but it was the middle of a clear calm day. Figure they needed plenty of runway for that monster.

Most of my approach/landings at Canberra have been from the south and it can get very punchy and unpleasant, especially as they drop down over Jerra and Qbn adn then come in over Fyshwick and the giant dirt pile. It's seldom enjoyable. But those poor folk in that plane that night must have been rigid with terror. the wind certainly didn't get any better so the next approach must have been worse.

What a gloomy bitter day today, much more wintery. Low moist cloud, cold wind. blah! Saw a possum running down Kings Avenue earlier, luckily he veered off and found a tree. Maybe the sudden cold gloomy weather is confusing the possums too.

Looks like it's lifting though and tomorrow we'll see a bit of sun.

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#1265369 - 03/06/2014 17:44 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Felt like a true winter's day today with moderate to fresh westerlies, up around 19 degrees and sunny skies with a few of those tableland clouds that DaveM was talking about, but apart from that it was about 98% sun today.

It was very pleasant in the sun today but anywhere in the shade and the wind and it's a completely different story with the wind chill.
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#1265375 - 03/06/2014 18:18 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Just by way of contrast to recent experience and the current forecast, this is what Winter used to be like 50 years ago. These are the minima and maxima at Observatory Hill - the first 10 days of June 1964:

Code:
 MIN    MAX
 8.4	17.8
 8.2	17.0
 5.7	18.9
 6.0	16.4
 6.5	16.2
11.2	15.7
11.1	13.8
10.6	16.7
11.9	16.6
11.4	17.0

Take off about 6 to 9 degrees for the Tablelands. Take off about 3 degrees from the minima to get what most Sydneysiders in the suburbs would have experienced.

Recent years have looked nothing like this except for short runs. 50 years ago at this time of year, even on the coast, shorts and T-shirts were in the linen press, not to be brought out until Spring.

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#1265379 - 03/06/2014 18:40 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Very interesting find Steve, it really shows that we don't really get a winter any more and if we do it's very brief. It makes me wonder what things will be like in another 50 years...
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