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#1266658 - 19/06/2014 17:29 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Why should we have to put up with any contamination at all?

Organic group considering changes to GM tolerance

A decision on proposed changes to genetically modified material tolerance level in organic produce could be made by August.

Recently the WA Department of Agriculture and Food wrote to the organic industry standards and certification council asking for the standard to be lifted from the current limit of zero, up to 0.9 per cent.

The request follows the legal battle for compensation between organic farmer Steve Marsh who alleged crops on his Great Southern farm were contaminated by genetically modified canola grown by his neighbour Michael Baxter.

The court ruled in Mr Baxter's favour however Mr Marsh's lawyers yesterday lodged a notice of appeal in the Supreme Court.

The organic industry standards and certification council represents the six companies licensed to give organic accreditation and sets standards in Australia.

And secretariat Marg Will says the group is currently processing the DAFWA submission, but is seeking more information.

"The national standards sub committee held a meeting recently, the accepted the application from the West Australian Department of Agriculture regarding their submission and that submission is now going through the process of deliberation," she says.

"So at this point in time the standards committee have asked in writing from the West Australian Department of Agriculture to supply some further information and at the same time, concurrently, while they wait for that further information they will be looking at the process that they will follow."

The committee meet four times a year with their next sitting in August, when Ms Will says it is expected the new and relevant information will be deliberated.

However she stresses that they would never want the standards to pit farmer against farmer.

"Perhaps there needs to be some look at procedures in the future of dealing with contamination of any description, and that is part of one of the other applications that's sitting in front of the national standards sub committee at the moment is how do certifiers deal with an issue of contamination," she says.

In a statement the Department of Agriculture and Food says it has received a request for further information from the Organic Industry Standards and Certification Council, though it only received the request yesterday and the request is being considered.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-19/wach-gm-organic/5536178
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#1267025 - 22/06/2014 23:13 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Processed milk is BAD for your bones - we've all been 'white-washed'
Most milk does a body BAD, not good, but it's the biggest lies that are more likely to be believed, and there are myths that refuse to die. So, in the name of good health, let's try to rid ourselves of them now.


Food that is cooked dead is useless

Did you know that pasteurized milk is dead milk? The nutrients are lost, burned up at high heat, between 145°F and 160°F for about 30 seconds. Yep, that milk's dead. Did you know that calcium alone does not build bones or bone density? Let's start this off with those infamous words, pasteurized and homogenized. Homogenized and pasteurized are bad, bad words. Were you taught differently growing up? Did the school books brainwash you? Did the commercials say just the opposite, that milk helps build strong bones? Is your "dead" milk polluted with inflammatory carcinogens, medications, hormones, antibiotics, pus, pathogens, bacteria, viruses and artery-clogging animal fat?

Milk, cigarettes, diet soda and margarine for America!

The United States is in the midst of a public health epidemic due to poor diet. While much of the focus has been on obvious culprits such as sugary soft drinks and fast food, dairy foods often get a pass. The dairy industry, propped up by government, has convinced us of the health benefits of milk and other dairy products. But the context of how people consume dairy matters. ...

[P]atterns of consumption [have shifted] away from plain milk toward dairy products laden with sugar, fat, and salt. ...

Nearly half of the milk supply goes to make about 9 billion pounds of cheese and 1.5 billion gallons of frozen desserts--two-thirds of which is ice cream;

11 percent of all sugar goes into the production of dairy products.
(http://www.eatdrinkpolitics.com)

A few years ago, David Wolfe, nutritionist, best-selling author and world traveler, speaking via Natural News, said it best:

Okay, well the nations that consume the most calcium, the United States, Canada and the Scandinavian countries, have the worst osteoporosis and that's because our theory of mineralization or our theory of nutrition is incorrect. The general theory is that a hundred years ago they started looking at people's bones. They found out that, "oh my god; these bones are made out of calcium". When people don't have enough bone density the thought is, "oh they just have to eat more calcium because that's what builds bones". Calcium does not build bones and that is one of the biggest misconceptions ever and it actually goes to the real core of our problems with science. ...

What increases bone density? Well, it turns out it's two other minerals and that is silicon and magnesium.
(http://www.naturalnews.com)

Pasteurized milk - this is NOT good

The goal with pasteurization is to kill potentially bad bacteria, but at what cost? It kills all the beneficial bacteria and damages the minerals and vitamins. Plus, pasteurization denatures the proteins. This milk gets heated over 160°F for half a minute to "sterilize" what you'll probably have trouble digesting. Even "low-temp" pasteurization stops at around 145°F, still killing most of the beneficial enzymes.

Homogenized milk - this is NOT good

Around the turn of the 20th century, homogenization became the "industry standard," because people liked not having to shake up all the fat globules for consistency. This process rearranges the fat and protein molecules, which ALTERS how they act in the human body. Then you have "fortified" milk with vitamins A and D added back in so that the general population feels better about drinking milk past infancy.

The calcium myth - why millions of Americans are "doing it" wrong

The US is the most dairy-consuming nation in the world, yet we have the highest rate of osteoporosis. No animal on Earth drinks milk past infancy or from another animal, except humans.

Don't get "white-washed" by the Dairy Industry! Get your calcium from organic leafy greens and raw nuts and seeds. Find organic silicon and magnesium and stay informed. (http://drbenkim.com)

Sources for this article include:

http://drbenkim.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://labs.naturalnews.com

http://ajcn.nutrition.org [PDF]

http://draxe.com

http://www.nomeatathlete.com

http://science.naturalnews.com

Don't Eat Cancer:
http://www.amazon.com


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045654_proces...r#ixzz35NDFUxj5
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#1267114 - 23/06/2014 12:51 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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What is not mentioned in the above article is that a bad diet will cause what calcium we do have to be used in ways that are detrimental to our skeletons in the long term. The human body HAS to keep blood alkalinity within a certain pH range for us to stay alive. And it's a small range, it can't deviate outside the perfect level (I think it's between pH 7.3 - 7.4 from memory). The body constantly draws highly alkaline calcium from wherever it can to keep the blood in the perfect alkaline state. And because the bones have the most readily available calcium stores, the body takes from those. Eat lots of sugars, soft drinks, alcohol, processed muck, yellow and brown takeaway and eventually the bones will suffer. Osteoporosis anyone?

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#1267479 - 25/06/2014 09:29 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: SBT
http://retractionwatch.com/2013/11/28/controversial-seralini-gmo-rats-paper-to-be-retracted/

Transcript:

The journal Food and Chemical Toxicology retracts the article “Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant genetically modified maize,”1 which was published in this journal in November 2012. This retraction comes after a thorough and time-consuming analysis of the published article and the data it reports, along with an investigation into the peer-review behind the article. The Editor in-Chief deferred making any public statements regarding this article until this investigation was complete, and the authors were notified of the findings.

Very shortly after the publication of this article, the journal received Letters to the Editor expressing concerns about the validity of the findings it described, the proper use of animals, and even allegations of fraud. Many of these letters called upon the editors of the journal to retract the paper. According to the journal’s standard practice, these letters, as well as the letters in support of the findings, were published along with a response from the authors. Due to the nature of the concerns raised about this paper, the Editor-in-Chief examined all aspects of the peer review process and requested permission from the corresponding author to review the raw data. The request to view raw data is not often made; however, it is in accordance with the journal’s policy that authors of submitted manuscripts must be willing to provide the original data if so requested. The corresponding author agreed and supplied all material that was requested by the Editor-in-Chief. The Editor-in-Chief wishes to acknowledge the co-operation of the corresponding author in this matter, and commends him for his commitment to the scientific process.

Unequivocally, the Editor-in-Chief found no evidence of fraud or intentional misrepresentation of the data. However, there is legitimate cause for concern regarding both the number of animals in each study group and the particular strain selected. The low number of animals had been identified as a cause for concern during the initial review process, but the peer-review decision ultimately weighed that the work still had merit despite this limitation. A more in-depth look at the raw data revealed that no definitive conclusions can be reached with this small sample size regarding the role of either NK603 or glyphosate in regards to overall mortality or tumor incidence. Given the known high incidence of tumors in the Sprague-Dawley rat, normal variability cannot be excluded as the cause of the higher mortality and incidence observed in the treated groups.

Ultimately, the results presented (while not incorrect) are inconclusive, and therefore do not reach the threshold of publication for Food and Chemical Toxicology. The peer-review process is not perfect, but it does work. The journal is committed to a fair, thorough, and timely peer-review process; sometimes expediency might be sacrificed in order to be as thorough as possible. The time-consuming nature is, at times, required in fairness to both the authors and readers. Likewise, the Letters to the Editor, both pro and con, serve as a post-publication peer review. The back and forth between the readers and the author has a useful and valuable place in our scientific dialog.

The Editor-in-Chief again commends the corresponding author for his willingness and openness in participating in this dialog. The retraction is only on the inconclusiveness of this one paper. The journal’s editorial policy will continue to review all manuscripts no matter how controversial they may be. The editorial board will continue to use this case as a reminder to be as diligent as possible in the peer-review process.
Transcript ends.


I think the wheels just fell off your bandwagon grin

Republication of the Séralini study: Science speaks for itself

“Now the study has passed a third peer review arranged by the journal that is republishing the study, Environmental Sciences Europe.

Comments from scientists

Dr Michael Antoniou, a molecular geneticist based in London, commented, “Few studies would survive such intensive scrutiny by fellow scientists. The republication of the study after three expert reviews is a testament to its rigour, as well as to the integrity of the researchers.

“If anyone still doubts the quality of this study, they should simply read the republished paper. The science speaks for itself.



“If even then they refuse to accept the results, they should launch their own research study on these two toxic products that have now been in the human food and animal feed chain for many years.”

“This study has arguably prevailed through the most comprehensive and independent review process to which any scientific study on GMOs has ever been subjected.

Full story
http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php/news/ar...eaks-for-itself
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#1267517 - 25/06/2014 14:51 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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The next scourge to look out for.

Campaign launched to halt synthetic biology food ingredients

Genetic engineering is evolving into a whole new monster with the recent introduction of synthetic biology, a new technology that involves inserting computer-generated DNA into genetically modified (GM) yeast for the purpose of fermenting synthetic ingredients. But a coalition of environmental and food safety advocacy groups is hoping to put a stop to this latest abomination, which is expected to be quietly hidden in the food supply and labeled as "natural."

A recent announcement by Friends of the Earth (FOE) explains that the first "SynBio" ingredient to be released commercially is one that mimics vanillin, the active flavor compound found in natural vanilla. A Swiss company known as Evolva, in partnership with International Flavors and Fragrances (IFF), has developed a way to produce artificial vanillin using the brave new process, which has never been tested for safety.

By combining GM yeast with man-made DNA, scientists have come up with a way to manufacture synthetic vanillin-like flavoring in a lab, producing a substance that mimics the real thing. It is biotechnology on steroids, in essence, and multinational corporations plan to market the end product as "natural" while hiding it in food without proper, honest labeling.

"Synthetic biology vanillin is made with a new synthetic genetic code inserted into yeast," explains FOE about the process. "Using a computer, scientists edit the DNA in yeast and insert the computer generated DNA, and then through a fermentation process, force the yeast to biosynthesize vanillin."


SynBio vanillin threatens last remaining rainforests

Like GMOs, synthetic biology is currently unregulated. Independent studies looking at how it affects humans and the environment are non-existent. And yet SynBio vanillin is expected to hit the global market in the very near future, with the potential to turn up in cake frosting, ice cream, baked goods and other food items that often contain vanilla flavoring.

In addition to the fact that it is untested, SynBio vanillin also threatens to undo many generations of natural vanilla cultivation worldwide. Indigenous farmers who currently grow vanilla in harmony with rainforest ecosystems in Africa, South America and elsewhere will be hit hard by the release of SynBio vanillin, which requires intensive sugar cultivation to feed the yeast strains that produce it.

"The immense amount of sugar required for efficient vanillin synthesis encourages monocultures of fast-growing sugars instead of the rich biodiversity of the tropical ecosystems which are host to the vanilla orchid," explains FOE. "Without the natural vanilla market adding economic value to the rainforest in these regions, these last standing rainforests will not be protected from deforestation and sugar cane used to feed the yeast will replace the forests."

If it is allowed to enter the food supply as "natural" without any indication of its biotech origins, SynBio could also cause a major public health crisis. The long-term health consequences of existing GMOs are only just now hitting the mainstream, and the secret addition of SynBio vanillin and other ingredients into the food supply will most likely make the situation even worse.

"It is unclear if synthetic biology vanillin is safe to eat, or what impacts if the synthetic organisms may have upon were interact with natural organisms or ecosystems," says FOE. "Without precautionary testing and regulations that are specific to synthetic biology and which recognize it is as a unique and complex technology, we may not find emergent health threats until it is too late."

You can support the efforts of FOE and its allies, the Center for Food Safety (CFS) and the ETC Group, in fighting the release of SynBio ingredients by visiting:
FOE.org.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045708_synthetic_biology_GMOs_food_ingredients.html#ixzz35ciKusTx
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#1268760 - 06/07/2014 09:33 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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No surprises there....

Cancer death rates are twice as high where GM crops and agricultural chemicals are used

Agricultural regions that see a heavy use of chemicals and in which genetically modified (GM) crops are grown have a cancer death rate twice as high as the national average, according to a report by the Ministry of Health of Cordoba Province in Argentina.

"Once again, what we have complained about for years was confirmed," said Medardo Avila Vazquez of the University Network for Environment and Health (Reduas), "and especially what doctors say about the sprayed towns and areas affected by industrial agriculture. Cancer cases are multiplying as never before in areas with massive use of pesticides."

Cancer has skyrocketed

The Provincial Tumour Registry and the Department of Statistics and Census analyzed data on cancer tumors and death rates between the years of 2004 and 2009. The report found that the highest rate of cancer deaths occurred in the area known as "pampa gringa," which also has the heaviest use of agrochemicals and GM crops.

According to the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer, Argentina's cancer death rate is 115.13 per 100,000. Yet, the Cordoba report found that the average cancer death rate for the province was significantly higher, at 134.8 in the capital city of Cordoba and 158 in the province as a whole. When the departments in the pampa gringa were examined separately, the rate shot up even higher: 216.8 in San Justo, 217.4 in Union, 228.4 in Presidente Roque Saenz Pena and 229.8 in Marcos Juarez.

The report was taken as vindication by Cordoba residents and public health advocates, who have been warning of climbing cancer rates in the province for years.

"The study of Cordoba matches the surveys we conducted in 18 industrial agriculture areas. Cancer has skyrocketed in the last 15 years," said doctor and researcher Damian Verzenassi of the Faculty of Medical Sciences in Rosario.

Experts demand government action

Yet, the government report itself actually deemphasized the finding of exceptionally high rates of cancer deaths in agricultural areas. Instead, the report focused on analyzing cancer incidences (new cases) by age, sex and location, and comparing incidence rates with those rates in other countries.

However, health advocates immediately drew the connection with agricultural chemicals and demanded government action to protect the public.

According to Fernando Manas of the National University of Rio Cuarto, "there is evidence of high levels of genetic damage in people of Marcos Juarez, which may result from unintentional exposure to pesticides."

Manas noted that, for example, lakes, soils and rainwater in the Marcos Juarez department have been found to be contaminated with the herbicide glyphosate ("Roundup") and one of its breakdown products, AMPA. Over the past eight years, researchers at Rio Cuarto have published 15 separate papers confirming that Cordoba residents who have been exposed to pesticides suffer from genetic damage and a higher risk of cancer.

Verzenassi condemned efforts by the government and industry to obscure the connection between agrochemicals and cancer.

"They keep demanding studies on something that is already proven and do not take urgent measures to protect the population," he said. "There is ample evidence that the agricultural model has health consequences, we are talking about a production model that is a huge public health problem."

Another researcher, Avila Vazquez of the University Network for Environment and Health, echoed this criticism and called for the immediate implementation of measures to prohibit aerial spraying, keep chemical applications at least one km from homes and ban agrochemical storage and spraying from urban areas.

"The tobacco companies denied the link between smoking and cancer, and took decades to recognize the truth," Vazquez said. "The biotech and agrochemical corporations are the same as the tobacco industry, they lie and favor business over the health of the population."


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045874_cancer...r#ixzz36dk37gWQ
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#1268840 - 07/07/2014 09:14 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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#1268843 - 07/07/2014 09:29 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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This is an email i received yesterday called the Noah's Ark of seeds and sounds like a great initiative in claiming back the seeds that were rightfully belong to the people, just like in the doco above.

It is great to see people power fight back against these money grubbing monoliths bounce

Dear friends,




Companies like Monsanto have taken over the world's seeds, but now farmers want to build a Noah's Ark to save them. Pledge what you can to launch the Ark:

The source of our planet’s food is under threat. Ten agro-chemical firms own 73% of the commercial seed market, and as many as 93% of seed varieties have gone extinct. In the US alone 85% of apple varieties have disappeared.

Monsanto and co. are privatising the genesis of nature. And this corporate takeover is decimating sustainable farming, destroying the diversity of our crops, and making them vulnerable to diseases that could threaten our food security.

But farmers are resisting, saving seeds in banks and barns across the world. Now they have devised a revolutionary project -- the first ever, non-profit “eBay” of seed where any farmer, anywhere can source a wide variety of plants cheaper than the genetically modified seeds from chemical companies. This global online store could re-flood the market with all kinds of seeds and slowly break the monopoly that is putting our food future at risk!

This could be the most innovative agricultural idea in decades -- a Noah’s Ark of seeds. But chemical companies often bully and sue those that get in their way, and farmers are calling on us to support them. If we raise enough now we can help them launch the online site, support seed storing in key countries, finance marketing and advertising, and fund the legal defence to fight back.

Pledge to help kick start the Noah's Ark -- Avaaz will only process donations if we raise enough to launch the whole initiative:

For thousands of years agriculture was driven by farmers selecting, replanting, and breeding seed varieties. Then the agro-chemical companies persuaded many governments to promote a corporate system of industrial, single-crop farming. Companies promise farmers higher yields and bigger earnings, and often lure them into multi-year contracts for GM (genetically modified) seeds and pesticides. Then they rely on patent laws and use agreements to strong-arm farmers to abandon their traditional practices of seed saving and innovation.

There is still no consensus on the long-term effects of GM crops, but experts say that the lack of independent scientific studies means there may be serious risks to our health from some GM foods. And there isn’t clear evidence that the introduction of GM seeds has improved farmers' incomes or provided more food for the world's people -- in fact in many cases it has driven small independent farmers out of business and in extreme cases to suicide to avoid debt.

The dire consequences go way beyond the farmers. According to the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organisation more than three-quarters of the genetic diversity of our crops has been lost due to seed consolidation and industrial practices. This matters because when we cover large swathes of land with just one cash crop -- instead of rotating or diversifying them -- our farms are more susceptible to diseases. While genetic modification may increase some crop yields, it's clear that without seed diversity and locally-tailored sustainable practices to confront changing environmental conditions -- our global food security could be at risk.

But this crisis isn’t insurmountable. The takeover is only decades old, farmers have saved seed everywhere, and if supported widely, this online seed market could help recover our food. A coalition of more than 20 groups and leaders in the field of sustainable agriculture like the Center for Food Safety and activist Vandana Shiva are standing by ready to launch the project. Here’s how our funds can help:

directly support seed-saving initiatives in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas.
create a world class website for the online store that connects farming communities everywhere, allowing them to legally sell seeds and share best practices globally.
help fund legal defence of this non-profit seed market from legal attacks by Monsanto and others.
market and advertise the exchange so that farmers all over the world join up.
campaign for better protections for our existing seeds from corporate takeover and patents.
Monsanto’s been forcing their GM seeds and vision of mass industrial agriculture on farmers (and all of us) for years, but if we all pitch in we can build this Noah's Ark for our remaining seed species! Chip in now and Avaaz will only process the pledge if we raise enough to make this plan work:



“To plant a seed is to activate the deepest mysteries of the Universe.” These seeds hold the origin and mystery of so much of life as we know it. Let's support this movement to protect that mystery from complete corporate control and help bring back thousands of food plants we thought were already lost.

With hope and determination,

Alice, Maria Paz, Nick, Emma, Ricken, Antonia, Patricia, Mais, Emily, Diego and the whole Avaaz team


MORE INFORMATION:

2013 Report: Wake Up Before It's Too Late (UN Conference on Trade and Development)
http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/ditcted2012d3_en.pdf

On India’s Farms, a Plague of Suicide (New York Times)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/19/world/asia/19india.html

How many farmers plant GM worldwide? (EuropaBio)
http://www.europabio.org/how-many-farmers-plant-gm-worldwide

Ministry blames Bt cotton for farmer suicides (Hindustan Times)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-n...le1-830798.aspx

Monsanto Lawsuits Pile Up as American Farmers Demand Rights (Mother Earth News)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/homestead...x#axzz36IwTZWF7

Life in the Rural Police State of Monsanto (Truth Out)
http://truth-out.org/news/item/16985-life-in-the-rural-police-state-of-monsanto

From 1903 -1983 the world lost 93 percent of key seed varieties (National Geographic)
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/07/food-ark/food-variety-graphic

The pernicious characteristics of monocultures (PBS)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/hackers/blame/threat.html

Norway invests $23.7 million in crop diversity to help farmers face climate change (FAO)
http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/197662/icode/

World Food Day 2004 highlights the importance of biodiversity to global food security (FAO)
http://www.fao.org/NEWSROOM/EN/news/2004/51140/index.html

Political Power of the Agribusiness & Crop Insurance Lobbies (Taxpayers for Common Sense)
http://www.taxpayer.net/images/uploads/d..._Fact_Sheet.pdf

Putting the Cartel before the Horse (ETC)
http://www.etcgroup.org/sites/www.etcgroup.org/files/CartelBeforeHorse11Sep2013.pdf

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#1268868 - 07/07/2014 16:38 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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no rocket science needed here all I will say is "be careful what you wish for"
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#1273618 - 18/08/2014 11:50 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Farm Weather]
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Originally Posted By: Farm Weather
no rocket science needed here all I will say is "be careful what you wish for"


I would certainly not wish to eat this rubbish.
Available at a supermarket near you.... sick

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#1273621 - 18/08/2014 12:35 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Originally Posted By: Farm Weather
no rocket science needed here all I will say is "be careful what you wish for"


I would certainly not wish to eat this rubbish.
Available at a supermarket near you.... sick



All that crud when some finely processed sugar mixed with a bit of milk will top it off. If you want to get fancy you can add butter. Even fancier, add a beaten egg white.

I never understood why 'fast' ingredients take so much to make or why anyone would use them.

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#1273761 - 19/08/2014 15:08 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: bundybear]
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It is amazing some of the pure crap that people will buy, yet they can be made with only a few simple ingredients I sometimes tag along with my wife she goes shopping (mainly because i like to have a laugh when i read the ingredients of some "foods")

Something simple like scones, if you look at the back panel of ingredients, there is a list nearly as long as your arm!

Look at LCM's next time you go shopping, they proudly state "no artificial flavours or colours"...... flip it over and read the back...they are just pure crap!
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#1273902 - 21/08/2014 02:48 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Three things I avoid eating whenever possible - sugar, refined starches and veg oils. Means nothing out of a packet for me :-)

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#1274129 - 23/08/2014 09:54 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Eigerwand]
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More good news so it seems! smile

End of the line: GMO production in China halted

In a surprise U-turn, China’s Ministry of Agriculture has decided not to continue with a program which developed genetically-modified rice and corn. Some environmentalists say public concerns about GM crops played a key role in the decision.

On August 17, when these permits were up for renewal, the Ministry of Agriculture decided not to extend them. In 2009, the ministry's Biosafety Committee issued approval certificates to develop the two crops, rice and corn.

Developed by the Huazhong Agricultural University, near Wuhan, it was hoped that the GMO strains would help to reduce pesticide use by 80 percent, while raising yields by as much as 8 percent, said Huang Jikun, the chief scientist with the Chinese Academy of Sciences, told Reuters in 2009. It is illegal to sell genetically-modified rice on the open market in China.

However in July, GM rice was found on sale in a large supermarket in Wuhan, which is just across the Yangtze River from the Huazhong Agricultural University, where the product was developed, which caused a public outcry.

"We believe that loopholes in assessing and monitoring [GMO] research, as well as the public concern around safety issues are the most important reasons that the certifications have not been renewed," Wang Jing, a Greenpeace official based in Beijing, wrote in an email to ScienceInsider.

According to the South China Morning Post, state television commissioned tests on five packets of rice, which were picked at random, and found three contained genetically-modified rice. It is illegal to sell or commercially grow GM rice in mainland China. The safety certificates issued in 2009 only allowed the rice to be planted for research purposes, but never for sale on the open market.

The strain, which was found, was one of two developed by Dr. Zhang Oifa, who is a professor at the Huazhong Agricultural University. He said, "it was not impossible" for the seeds to be put on to the open market.

"You can't say [the seeds] were leaked on purpose. It's possible the seed companies have taken away the seeds and reproduced them illegally," he said, as reported by the South China Morning Post.

However, Huang Jikun also believes that public opinion was not the only reason why the project was shelved. He stated that China is reaching self-sufficiency in terms of rice production, so therefore there was no point in producing genetically modified versions. China exports very little rice as almost all of it is consumed within its domestic market. Huang also admitted, "rising public concerns [about the] safety of GM rice" likely also played a role.

Cong Cao, who is an associate professor at the University of Nottingham in the UK, was scathing of the decision. Writing in ‘The Conversation’ journal, he said the move “signals a major blow to the fight to establish GM food in China.”

Cao believes there is no logic behind the judgment adding that “Anti-Western sentiment has been judged more convincing than a raft of studies endorsing the merits of agro-biotechnology. Government support for GM food is dwindling fast, and it seems safe to say that the opportunity to commercialize GM rice – and with it the chance to help address some of China’s most urgent problems – is all but gone.”

The production of GM corn has not received as much skepticism, as it is mainly fed to livestock, according to Huang Jikun. Nevertheless, like rice, it has also not had its license renewed.

http://rt.com/news/181860-gm-china-rice-stopped/
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#1274419 - 26/08/2014 08:29 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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The good news keeps on coming. smile

Brazilian vegetable oil industries refuse to buy Monsanto's new GM soybeans

In Brazil's latest pushback against genetically modified (GM) organisms, multiple farmers throughout the country threatened to sue GM seed manufacturers Monsanto, Dow, Syngenta AG and DuPont, through the Aprosoja farm lobby. The farmers have watched this year's engineered Bt corn seed fail, allowing the corn leaf worm, the Spodoptera frugiperda, to adapt and feed more readily on the crop. This has lowered their yields, forcing them to spray their crops with pesticides an unprecedented three times this year.

Even worse for Monsanto is that the entire vegetable oil industry in Brazil is now refusing to buy their new genetically modified soybeans. This could be the worst news yet for Monsanto, as they try to dictate the job of international seed traders in Brazil. Soy trading companies that belong to the Brazilian Association of Vegetable Oil Industries (ABIOVE) are refusing Monsanto's new Intacta RR2 PRO soybeans, because Monsanto is trying to force them to do something that they don't want to be held liable for.

Monsanto is trying to force the traders to act as royalty collectors. Sales of the upcoming oilseed crop in Brazil are on the verge of becoming a little more complicated.

Vegetable oil industry refusing to go after farmer's royalties on behalf of Monsanto

Apparently, ABIOVE didn't like the way Monsanto executives were treating them and dictating the jobs of the traders they represent. Tension broke out between the trading companies and Monsanto seed imperialists in July when Monsanto tried to coerce the traders into acting as Monsanto's royalty collectors for technology fees for the new Intacta soybeans. This means that Monsanto was trying to force the trading companies to become their tax collectors. Monsanto executives wanted the traders to go after the farmers and force them into servitude by paying their royalties to Monsanto.

"We can serve as monitors in this process, as Monsanto requests... but we cannot assume legal responsibility for the collection of royalties," said ABIOVE President Carlo Lovatelli, according to Reuters.

Lovatelli is worried that questions might arise over royalty payments for cargo shipments that have already been exported. Brazil exports more than half of its annual harvest, and questions typically arise over royalties. Lovatelli doesn't want to be held responsible for Monsanto's lost royalty payments.

"It would be like selling a complete car and then having the tire manufacturer come and complain about something to do with the rubber," he said.

The trading firms do not want to be held legally responsible for collecting Monsanto's royalty payments. This disruption is a consequence of a seed imperialist dictating an entire country's agriculture. Depending on seed science alone and not understanding the importance of biodiversity in growing a country's food is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

International seed traders refuse to be Monsanto's middle man

The vegetable oil industry has refused to be Monsanto's middle man. In an official announcement, they vied to reject Monsanto's Intact RR2 PRO soybeans until they changed their forceful policy.
According to press releases, the negotiations have gone on for about six months. ABIOVE has continued providing Monsanto with monitoring services to provide security to the supply chain in Brazil but have not committed to Monsanto's new Intacta soybean strain. Monsanto has since then suggested that they will intervene unduly, enforcing their rules on ABIOVE's member companies. ABIOVE said they remain open to negotiations but they will not reach any agreement if Monsanto begins interfering in the activities of its member companies.

ABIOVE represents international soybean traders such as Cargill, ADM, Bunge and Louis Dreyfus.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/046547_GM_soy...r#ixzz3BRgOiDT8
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#1274565 - 27/08/2014 09:08 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Eigerwand]
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Three things I avoid eating whenever possible - sugar, refined starches and veg oils. Means nothing out of a packet for me :-)


You can see the way it effecting today's society, with all these food allergies and so called disorders like ADD or ADHD ( should really be called HOSD.....high on sugar disorder)

You see that kind of thing everyday with kids and the amount of sugary crap that they eat/consume, we were in a shop the other day and there was a woman and her young child who was probably probably 4-5, the young boy started pushing a toy truck around the shop and all you heard was "Steven,Steven, put it back Steven,Steven, put it back Steven,Steven, put it back steven......
This went on for a good 5 minutes with the woman asking the child a good 20-30 times to put the truck back and the child just ignored her and kept racing around the shop with the truck.

It wasn't until she said "Steven if you don't put it back i will take your LOL (a rubbish drink full of sugar)out of your lunchbox," that he finally put it back!
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#1274687 - 27/08/2014 23:18 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
You can see the way it effecting today's society, with all these food allergies and so called disorders like ADD or ADHD ( should really be called HOSD.....high on sugar disorder)

Results of some research, another way of saying check and double check smile :

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What Does Not Cause ADHD
Diet: In the 1970’s it became popular to view ADHD as resulting from allergies or sensitivities to certain food substances. However, much of the research done over the past two decades was unable to support the claim that diet played a significant role in causing ADHD. Despite this, the popular media continues to discuss the role of food in ADHD, particularly that sugar may cause children to become hyperactive and impulsive. There is no research to back up this claim. In fact, Dr. Mark Wolraich and his colleagues found no significant effects of sugar on either behavior or learning in children.

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Research does not support the popularly held views that ADHD is caused by eating too much sugar, watching too much television, parenting, or social and environmental factors such as poverty or family chaos. Of course, many things, including these, might make symptoms worse, especially in certain people. But the evidence is not strong enough to conclude that they are the main causes of ADHD.

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Source: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/facts.html


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#1274731 - 28/08/2014 11:30 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Seira]
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particularly that sugar may cause children to become hyperactive and impulsive. There is no research to back up this claim. In fact, Dr. Mark Wolraich and his colleagues found no significant effects of sugar on either behavior or learning in children.


Who arranged for the study? people in the drug industry who push the drugs onto children maybe?

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Psychiatric Drugs for Four-Year Olds. In 2011, AAP changed their recommendations for prescribing mood-altering psychiatric and psychotropic medications to children. The Academy reduced the age for diagnosing ADHD to 4 years from its prior threshold of 6 years. Its recommendations are that behavioral therapy precede administering drugs, in particular Ritalin. Yet this recommendation will unlikely be followed. Today, less than 20 percent of practicing psychiatrists perform behavioral therapy and prescribing drugs is now the ruling paradigm regardless of age. Ritalin is classified in the same category with cocaine, morphine and opium. Its adverse effects include hallucinations, mania, heart problems and death. But the AAP seems to be fine with that for pre-schoolers. Then again, the AAP’s chairman for ADHD guidelines, Dr. Mark Wolraich, is a consultant for psychotropic drug companies including Shire Pharmaceutical, Eli Lilly, Shinogi and Next Wave Pharmaceuticals.


Vested interest maybe? it is always funny when you see these reports where "experts" say diet plays no part...yet they work for Drug companies that push pills to "treat" these very conditions, when infact they could be reversed by changing diets.

Originally Posted By: -Cosmic- (naz)
Results of some research, another way of saying check and double check

More like observation.

My Nephew was diagnosed with ADD, when him and my sister came around to visit, he was always fine in the beginning but as soon as my sister started dishing out the lollies and soft drinks that she brought with her, in a very short amount of time he would start bouncing off the walls.

My own son was very similar, we noticed he would do similar after eating certain foods, when we changed our diets, his behaviour changed as well...

It is the same with the kids at school, the ones that always eat the processed foods, the junk foods and the soft drinks are the main ones with those conditions.
Ask yourself this have you ever seen or heard of a Vegetarian child with ADD or ADHD?
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#1274764 - 28/08/2014 19:30 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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From what I understand, ADHD is a medical condition where its effects may be exacerbated by sugar/junk food intake to some degree.

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#1274857 - 30/08/2014 09:54 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Seira]
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In 1976, 65-year-old Stamatis Moraitis was diagnosed with lung cancer and given less than a year to live. After several doctors confirmed the diagnosis, Moraitis refused treatment and moved back to the Greek Island where he was raised to be buried with his ancestors. He reconnected with his faith walking to a tiny chapel near his home. His childhood friends began visiting and they talked for hours, sharing a bottle or two of wine. Moraitis planted vegetables in a small garden even though he thought he wouldn’t be around to harvest them. In the evening, he walked to the local tavern to play dominoes with his friends. Decades later, on a trip to visit his children in the U.S., he tried to return to his doctors to see why he was still alive. "My doctors were all dead," he said. Moraitis passed away at the age of 102, 36 years after being diagnosed with terminal lung cancer —


The majority of illness and disease starts with diet and lifestyle.

It used to be a case where they developed drugs to suit medical conditions, now they develop medical conditions to suit/sell the drugs....
have you ever noticed how they are replacing common names of diseases and illnesses with fancy schmancy pants new names? Like, Urticaria or more commonly known as(Hives)

Meanwhile it seems you should not believe everything you read on the CDC....

http://www.naturalnews.com/046662_vaccine_fraud_Jon_Rappoport_CDC_whistleblower.html

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