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#1284230 - 15/11/2014 16:16 In the market
Brett Guy Offline
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Hey everybody. I am planning an antarctic holiday next year and naturally will be getting a good camera for the trip. Budget will be limited to a max of 1500 for the entire kit. The decision is between a traditional dslr or one of the new gen compact(mirrorless) systems. I am after opinions on the best system to run with and any suggestions. Cheers in advance.

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#1284287 - 15/11/2014 19:43 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
pogonantha Offline
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No good advice on cameras from me Brett..but I have to say I'm very envious..and very much looking forward to following your experiences of this wonderful adventure..

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#1284288 - 15/11/2014 19:55 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Steve O Offline
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An option also is to buy a dslr body on its own that wold be around the $500 mark and a good lense 18-200mm or a couple of lenses suited for what you want for another 5-600 plus assecories bag, spare battery and a 16gb memory card for around 1500 all up maybe cheaper if you shop around.


Edited by Steve O (15/11/2014 19:59)

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#1284296 - 15/11/2014 21:22 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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#1284362 - 16/11/2014 11:12 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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Yeah. The main contender for the dslr option is a cannon body matched with a an 18-270 Tamron lens. And had a look at the Olympus OM-d yesterday which is one of the compact mirror less systems. I have to say it was very impressive and at 1000 bucks for a 3 lens system it was very tempting.

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#1284364 - 16/11/2014 11:26 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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Half your luck Brett, look forward to seeing your images!!

I'd be looking for a lense with 400-500mm, even if you bought a second hand lense.
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#1284376 - 16/11/2014 12:12 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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Won't be happening Eddyg. As nice as it would be i won't have the funds for it and in reality i am far more interested in the expansive vistas as opposed to the wildlife options. Another consideration is portability. Transfers are by zodiac and I am guessing traversing the landscape could be difficult so I don't want any large bits of kit.

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#1284383 - 16/11/2014 12:33 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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I have a Tamron 18-200mm lense F3.5-F6.3. It's pretty good. Good if you don't want to keep changing lense.

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#1284401 - 16/11/2014 13:24 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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Yeah. The Tamron are a very good quality lens. Certainly far better than the kit lenses you get in the dslr packages. They even have a 16-300 now. It's and extra 300 plus bucks over the 18-270 but still worth considering. I'd love to hear from anyone here with experience with the the mirror less compacts though. They are relatively new in the scene i suppose and i don't know anyone that has used them.

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#1284460 - 16/11/2014 19:55 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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if you were going to go a body, I'd go for the 16-300mm the wide range will give you almost limitless options. and honestly is what I'm looking at for whenever I get a new lens. Body wise, there wont be that much difference, the quality will definitely come out of the lens. Your mirrorless option might be more compact but generally will leave yourself without the customisability as a canon or nikon. I'd also go for a camera that has video grin and finally once you have made your decision I'd look up some hacks for dealing with the cold and grab a few lens filters and weather protection pouch.... looks like a piece of plastic that fits on to your lens and covers the camera to keep the water off.
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#1284466 - 16/11/2014 20:34 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Brett Guy Offline
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I dunno. The Olympus I looked at was a pretty damn good bit of gear and apart from the fact that they don't have a true TTL viewfinder there wasn't much they weren't capable of. It had fantastic video capabilities(1080p-30fps with 5 axis In body stabilization). Apparently the mirrorless struggle at little at very high ISO due to the smaller sensors but I doubt it will affect me to much. The lenses are fantastic quality and substantially smaller than DSLR lenses( apparently due to the fact they are closer to the sensor) and therefore carrying 2 or 3 of them will be far easier. I reckon the major downfall for me would be the comfort factor. Not a good to hold on to but probably manageable. I was told they will outperform an entry level DSLR but you never really know whether that is a sales pitch or actual fact. Kind of one of the reasons I am looking for feedback from someone that has used them.

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#1284507 - 17/11/2014 13:56 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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I've been using an Olympus EPL2 for several years and I enjoy it VERY much. I also have a Nikon DSLR but I have generally found myself using the Oly more than the Nikon. I like them both but the more compact size of the Oly works well for me.

The sharpness out of the kit 14 - 42 is very good. I like the colours out of it as well.

I find the high ISO quality to be much better than I feared.

I lust after the OMD but then I have a collection of film om's and am biased somewhat.

I personally love that 3 lens kit out at the moment with the OMD, I would dearly like to own that camera myself.

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#1284593 - 18/11/2014 08:24 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Brett Guy Offline
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Cheers for the input Dave.

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#1284674 - 18/11/2014 18:48 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Wild Wassa Offline
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Brett G'day.

This might be an issue worth checking. Not knowing what temperatures you'll encounter at times, will the camera battery in the camera that you choose, function efficiently (or even at all) in the temps that you will encounter? Will your gear be suitable for the temps uncounted in an extreme environment?

Good luck, and have a great trip.

Warren.



Edited by Wild Wassa (18/11/2014 18:49)
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#1284690 - 18/11/2014 20:10 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Things Offline
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Yeah, that's a good point Warren. I remember going up to Falls Ck a few years back and both my cameras refused to work, and compared to Antarctica that was probably a hot summer day. At those temps though, I think you'd need to find a way of actually keeping the battery warm.

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#1284694 - 18/11/2014 20:57 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
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Here is a link to some tips for sub zero photography!
http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/camera-equipment-tips-in-low-temperatures/
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#1284753 - 19/11/2014 11:11 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Brett Guy Offline
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Yeah. I have considered that. The OMD I am looking at is a wether sealed camera. As for batteries you have to keep them close to your body and they will still probably only last 1/2 the time they normally would. Before I do purchase though I will certainly have a closer look into how any camera will handle the cold.

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#1285106 - 20/11/2014 16:48 Re: In the market [Re: Brett Guy]
Brett Guy Offline
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Well. Just booked the trip. End of Nov/early dec next year. Got a whole 12 months to look forward to it and get the kit together.


Edited by Brett Guy (20/11/2014 16:50)

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