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#1292656 - 19/12/2014 19:35 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.

For those pitch black nights there are a few things I usually try on my other lenses. If it is a wide angle lens, I've found highbeaming an object with the car some distance off, and focusing on the furthest illuminated object tends to work well enough. Problem with this method is the more telephoto you get, the less dof, and the further you need to focus. If the moon is out, the liveview method works perfectly on that. If there is a new moon, one can manually expose and trhen liveview towards the stars with 10x. Setting the exposure so the stars are barely in view when in focus means if it is slightly out of focus, nothing will appear, so it's a case of getting the star as bright as possible using only focus. I've done this a few times and it has seemed to work. On those cloudy, moonless nights in the sticks, it's pretty much guesswork but I tend to use the highbeam method.

Oh and yes, don't forget to switch it back to MF from AF after getting infinity focus, I've done this too many times to count and I rage everytime poke


Edited by Markus (19/12/2014 19:39)
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#1292657 - 19/12/2014 19:36 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Trav. Depending on what you are photographing of course I would think the best idea would be to up the iso a bit and get the fstop as high as possible. Bigger the number the more depth of field. Probably good fro lightening and long exposures but wouldn't work on shorter exposures.

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#1292711 - 20/12/2014 08:23 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Thanks guys for the help, Im going to have a good play around and make sure I can confidently get it focused properly when out chasing, or for any time I take the camera out.

Just need some chasable storms poke
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#1292737 - 20/12/2014 12:14 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Markus]
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Originally Posted By: Markus
Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.


Wow I had no idea it was complicated poke I thought lightning was just about infinite and you could just set it to that or make a mark on your lens. I guess you want it in as sharp focus as possible though.
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#1292765 - 20/12/2014 16:15 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Chris #3
Originally Posted By: ColdFront

Did you go online?


Sorry mate missed your post. Went instore at Big W. Wasn't 100% sure about Kogan and the like - have got stuff from them before that had an Australian warranty but it took a long time to get a faulty phone replaced. Not sure if they've gotten any better or if it's different with cameras.

Thanks for that Brett. Still have a lot to learn.

Found my weatherproofing smile - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-SLR-Camer...=item2a46dd68d9

Found this tripod that looks decent and doesn't break the bank - http://www.dx.com/p/1-5m-aluminum-alloy-digital-camera-tripod-5kg-load-max-15247#.VJPQ4V4ZeG8

The gorillapod ones look quite useful - http://joby.com/gorillapod/focus


You did exceptionally well going to a retail outlet mate.
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#1292805 - 20/12/2014 20:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Chris #3
Originally Posted By: Markus
Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.


Wow I had no idea it was complicated poke I thought lightning was just about infinite and you could just set it to that or make a mark on your lens. I guess you want it in as sharp focus as possible though.


I cant wait to have a good play with it but yeah, from what im learning its quite difficult but i guess it will get easier like anything mate.
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#1292817 - 20/12/2014 20:54 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Didn't realize my Dad had an old 35 -



No idea if any of it useful to me. I see made in Japan and macro written so hopefully decent quality and I can take pictures of small things.
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#1292819 - 20/12/2014 21:01 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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wow, imagine how many photos its taken. How many memories have been taken through those lenses.
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#1292822 - 20/12/2014 21:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Good luck finding somewhere to develop the film mate grin.
It's not easy anymore to get it done from what I hear. Not to mention bloody expensive.

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#1292824 - 20/12/2014 21:23 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Dawgggg]
Chris #3 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
wow, imagine how many photos its taken. How many memories have been taken through those lenses.


Yeah blows my mind. It's been to Soviet Russia, Afghanistan, Nepal, South America, India...so many miles travelled.

Can tell from the case -


Brett - had a feeling that might be the case. Kind of a shame but I can still appreciate it, so well built. The polarizing filters might come in handy eventually.



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#1292825 - 20/12/2014 21:27 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yeah. They made things to last back then. Not to be thrown out in a couple of years. Still. Would be worth keeping for the collectability of it.

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#1292841 - 20/12/2014 23:32 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.
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#1292855 - 21/12/2014 01:00 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Markus]
Chris #3 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Markus

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.


Yeah sounds like there's still more to it than I expected. I'm sure I'll use some of the tips in here when I manage to find a storm.

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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!


That guy has my respect! really does seem to be a separate art to it we miss out on with digital (luckily? poke ) Might be cool to get my Dad a some film for xmas. Will suss out some options on google.


Edited by Chris #3 (21/12/2014 01:01)
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#1292876 - 21/12/2014 09:30 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Chris #3
Originally Posted By: Markus

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.


Yeah sounds like there's still more to it than I expected. I'm sure I'll use some of the tips in here when I manage to find a storm.

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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!


That guy has my respect! really does seem to be a separate art to it we miss out on with digital (luckily? poke ) Might be cool to get my Dad a some film for xmas. Will suss out some options on google.


I shot with some film a couple of years ago, but never got around to have it processed. Same with any of my DSLR shots, none of them have ever made it to be processed.
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#1292879 - 21/12/2014 09:40 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yea I'm making an effort to get photos processed, when I bought my dslr I got a photo album and 100 free prints with it. Especially the photos I take at home or family outings. Actually I got a really nice photo of my parents and have gone and got that processed and framed for a Xmas present. The things you can do with a dslr is just amazing, and there is so much to learn.


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#1293464 - 25/12/2014 13:22 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Enjoy the new toy Chris(and everyone else that scored one for Xmas. I know I am

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#1293706 - 27/12/2014 12:19 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Been loving it Brett cheers.

Very happy with the quality for the price.
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#1295083 - 02/01/2015 18:20 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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My first little play arounds with my new baby. Brisbane CBD 2 nights ago.



Unfortunatly, one storm day to boot with crappy distant lightning

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#1295099 - 02/01/2015 18:52 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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At least you have had a storm trav.

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#1295727 - 03/01/2015 22:48 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Nice shots Trav.

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