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#1290226 - 10/12/2014 11:00 First DSLR.
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Finally getting myself a new DSLR camera for christmas. It's been way too long.

Need some input from you guys who do weather stuff.

Tossing up between a 600D kit which is $400 on special or a Pentax K-50 which would cost me about $550, maybe a touch more.

Very tempting to spend a bit extra and get something more expensive. In the end though, I'm interested in nuts and bolts of photography rather than megapixels and extra-features. I figure either of these will give me more than enough to start off with, and in the future once I'm more proficient I can upgrade. Seen demo shots from both and the image quality boost I'd get from a better model seems marginal compared to improving my basic skills.


Love the idea of an articulating screen on the 600D. Love the idea of weatherproofing on the Pentax since I tend to use my gear in a way where it might end up in the rain or get a few knocks and bumps.

Looked at mirrorless and while the size difference does appeal, feeling like I can get more for the price in a entry level DSLR?

Any input or experiences very much appreciated.
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#1290228 - 10/12/2014 11:05 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Forgot to mention -

I'll be doing landscapes, weather, everyday stuff, and eventually want to do some macro photography of insects and other small things.
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#1290233 - 10/12/2014 11:37 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Hey. Chris. I am in the same boat. Going to Antarctica next year so the chrissy present this year is a Cannon 700d kit from camera house. Was a grand after cashback in the end but that was with 3 lenses, a spare battery, a tripod and a camera bag so well worth the coin. I know 400 bucks is a big jump above what you are looking at but it is a fantastic kit. Although the bloody missus won't let me play with it until xmas day. Women are harsh aren't they? Don't know if you know but the entry level DSLR's tend to have a crop sensor which changes the focal length of your lenses.


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#1290237 - 10/12/2014 11:49 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
Hey. Chris. I am in the same boat. Going to Antarctica next year so the chrissy present this year is a Cannon 700d kit from camera house. Was a grand after cashback in the end but that was with 3 lenses, a spare battery, a tripod and a camera bag so well worth the coin. I know 400 bucks is a big jump above what you are looking at but it is a fantastic kit. Although the bloody missus won't let me play with it until xmas day.


That sounds like a great deal Brett. You're going to Antarctica?! I'm very jealous. Have a trip planned next year to Nepal but would love to go way down South. Is it for work or are you doing a package deal?


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Women are harsh aren't they?


They certainly can be poke I became expert at stealth unwrapping presents and playing with them when Mum wasn't around as a kid.

Unfortunately a grand is too much for me at the moment. Have had a bunch of bills lately...almost had a heart attack when looking at electricity. Turns out they were estimating my usage for the last 12 months and I've used a lot more than they guessed frown

I guess the positive about going with the Canon is that I'll have some extra money to play around with for buying a tripod, case, extra battery.


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#1290240 - 10/12/2014 11:58 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Just a holiday mate. Missus and I don't have kids and are at the point where constantly working for the future seems pointless. Decided a year ago to do it so it will have been in the works for 2 years by the time we go. Just think it will be the most amazing place to lay eyes on really. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the 600d. It looks like a pretty good piece of gear. You'll def want a tripod though. The one that came with the kit is pretty basic but it will do the job to start with.

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#1290295 - 10/12/2014 14:55 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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What do people think about buying grey market stuff? Like Kogan and similar.
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#1292566 - 19/12/2014 11:02 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Ended up getting a 600D kit for $400. Couldn't go past the price in the end...would have preferred the pentax but I think the 600D will be more than enough for me to get started with.

Thanks for the help.
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#1292568 - 19/12/2014 11:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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That's an awesome price really. Good to start with. Add some high quality lenses over time and when your ready( if you decide you are into it enough) you can upgrade the body. I look forward to seeing everyone up shots mate. Oh. Was that the the 18-55 or the 18-135 with the kit?

i still have 6 days to wait for mine. The missus isn't falling for it when i get up early n the morning and say merry christmas grin


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#1292572 - 19/12/2014 11:28 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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hey mate I bought a Canon 600D last week, with the 18-55mm lens kit.

Its my first DSLR and im very happy with it, cant complain. Was 650 bucks from JB hifi
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#1292574 - 19/12/2014 11:29 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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My tripod uunofrtunatly carked it last week too so gotta buy a new one and a new remote.
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#1292598 - 19/12/2014 13:36 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Chris #3
Ended up getting a 600D kit for $400. Couldn't go past the price in the end...would have preferred the pentax but I think the 600D will be more than enough for me to get started with.

Thanks for the help.


Did you go online?
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#1292603 - 19/12/2014 13:52 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
That's an awesome price really. Good to start with. Add some high quality lenses over time and when your ready( if you decide you are into it enough) you can upgrade the body. I look forward to seeing everyone up shots mate. Oh. Was that the the 18-55 or the 18-135 with the kit?


Only the 18-55. Yeah will definitely be adding some lenses eventually, just want to understand all the numbers and settings first.

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i still have 6 days to wait for mine. The missus isn't falling for it when i get up early n the morning and say merry christmas grin


Same! Girlfriend conspired with my Mum and I assume it's under the tree at parents house. Can't wait for Christmas, feel like a kid again smile

Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
hey mate I bought a Canon 600D last week, with the 18-55mm lens kit.

Its my first DSLR and im very happy with it, cant complain. Was 650 bucks from JB hifi


That's awesome Trav good to hear you're happy with it - was a bit stressful trying to choose which camera...so many brands/types. Don't forget about the $100 cashback if you haven't done it already.

https://www.canon.com.au/en-au/Personal/Products/Special-Offers/double-cashback-2014

Yeah I'm still hunting for a tripod. Don't want to spend too much but definitely don't want to get another flimsy one like I've got at the moment. Will let you know if I find anything good.

Would love to see any shots you guys want to share, will keep my eye on these forums.
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#1292618 - 19/12/2014 14:55 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yeah mate thanks for reminding me haha I forgot about the cashback.

Straight away after the first time I used it I was blown away by the photo quality.
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#1292619 - 19/12/2014 15:02 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Just remember when you are looking for extra lenses down the track that the 600d has a 1.6 crop factor. So what ever the lens is multiply by 1.6 for that effective focal length. Eg. 10mm on the lens will actually give you a 16mm focal length.

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#1292640 - 19/12/2014 18:13 Re: First DSLR. [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront

Did you go online?


Sorry mate missed your post. Went instore at Big W. Wasn't 100% sure about Kogan and the like - have got stuff from them before that had an Australian warranty but it took a long time to get a faulty phone replaced. Not sure if they've gotten any better or if it's different with cameras.

Thanks for that Brett. Still have a lot to learn.

Found my weatherproofing smile - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-SLR-Camer...=item2a46dd68d9

Found this tripod that looks decent and doesn't break the bank - http://www.dx.com/p/1-5m-aluminum-alloy-digital-camera-tripod-5kg-load-max-15247#.VJPQ4V4ZeG8

The gorillapod ones look quite useful - http://joby.com/gorillapod/focus


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#1292643 - 19/12/2014 18:28 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yeah. I am interested in the gorilla pad a swell. Looks like a sweet little piece of gear. And don't worry Chris. have just as much to learn. Last time I shot with an SLR it was still with film. 'Crops' as such did not exist and photoshop was a dirty word. I have been sucking up a heap of info off youtube. So learning as much as I can as quick as I can.

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#1292649 - 19/12/2014 18:44 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Also if you shoot in raw Photoshop wont recognise the raw format. So you will need to dl lightroom or something similar aswell..

This is the tripod I got. I like it does the job and reasonably priced.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Weifeng-W...D&isdl=y&af=ppc


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#1292652 - 19/12/2014 19:02 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Thanks guys for the info. Look at us newies getting into DSLRs. Glad im not alone.

The girlfriend allowed me to use mine for 3 days of a storm outbreak last week. Its back on the box now tho until thursday hehe.

With lightning, Some shots I got in focus, while others I struggled. I have no infinite focus mark on my lens kit.

Anyone know how you know your at infinite foucs at night. Im sure its easy but gotta learn somehow hey.

cheers guys
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#1292653 - 19/12/2014 19:03 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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For instance last friday I got a shot and my distant lightning and street lights were fine and in focus. 2 days later I just couldnt focus, it was strange.

Ill post some photos up later to show.
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#1292654 - 19/12/2014 19:25 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
Thanks guys for the info. Look at us newies getting into DSLRs. Glad im not alone.

The girlfriend allowed me to use mine for 3 days of a storm outbreak last week. Its back on the box now tho until thursday hehe.

With lightning, Some shots I got in focus, while others I struggled. I have no infinite focus mark on my lens kit.

Anyone know how you know your at infinite foucs at night. Im sure its easy but gotta learn somehow hey.

cheers guys


There's a couple of ways to do it:

-One is to use the live view function, then zoom to x10, find something that is a good distance away and shift the focus ring around until it's perfectly focused. Then at that point make sure it's in Manual Focus and get out of live view. From that point on until you change the aperture or ISO. You'll need to redo the focus again.

-Or use one of the AF points to focus on a distant light in Auto Focus, then lock it into MF. Same thing applies to when you'll need to focus again. That's what I did here:

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#1292656 - 19/12/2014 19:35 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.

For those pitch black nights there are a few things I usually try on my other lenses. If it is a wide angle lens, I've found highbeaming an object with the car some distance off, and focusing on the furthest illuminated object tends to work well enough. Problem with this method is the more telephoto you get, the less dof, and the further you need to focus. If the moon is out, the liveview method works perfectly on that. If there is a new moon, one can manually expose and trhen liveview towards the stars with 10x. Setting the exposure so the stars are barely in view when in focus means if it is slightly out of focus, nothing will appear, so it's a case of getting the star as bright as possible using only focus. I've done this a few times and it has seemed to work. On those cloudy, moonless nights in the sticks, it's pretty much guesswork but I tend to use the highbeam method.

Oh and yes, don't forget to switch it back to MF from AF after getting infinity focus, I've done this too many times to count and I rage everytime poke


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#1292657 - 19/12/2014 19:36 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Trav. Depending on what you are photographing of course I would think the best idea would be to up the iso a bit and get the fstop as high as possible. Bigger the number the more depth of field. Probably good fro lightening and long exposures but wouldn't work on shorter exposures.

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#1292711 - 20/12/2014 08:23 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Thanks guys for the help, Im going to have a good play around and make sure I can confidently get it focused properly when out chasing, or for any time I take the camera out.

Just need some chasable storms poke
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#1292737 - 20/12/2014 12:14 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Markus]
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Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.


Wow I had no idea it was complicated poke I thought lightning was just about infinite and you could just set it to that or make a mark on your lens. I guess you want it in as sharp focus as possible though.
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#1292765 - 20/12/2014 16:15 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Chris #3
Originally Posted By: ColdFront

Did you go online?


Sorry mate missed your post. Went instore at Big W. Wasn't 100% sure about Kogan and the like - have got stuff from them before that had an Australian warranty but it took a long time to get a faulty phone replaced. Not sure if they've gotten any better or if it's different with cameras.

Thanks for that Brett. Still have a lot to learn.

Found my weatherproofing smile - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-SLR-Camer...=item2a46dd68d9

Found this tripod that looks decent and doesn't break the bank - http://www.dx.com/p/1-5m-aluminum-alloy-digital-camera-tripod-5kg-load-max-15247#.VJPQ4V4ZeG8

The gorillapod ones look quite useful - http://joby.com/gorillapod/focus


You did exceptionally well going to a retail outlet mate.
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#1292805 - 20/12/2014 20:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Markus
Problem with the kit lens Trav is how bloody touchy the manual focus is on them. The AF on them works perfectly but MF is a huge struggle. In cities, it is usually best to switch to liveview, zoom in which is possible on canons to 10x and find something bright enough with sharp edges and contrast for the AF system to lock onto. In the sticks though this is extremely difficult. I'm fortunate enough that my main use lens is pretty well spot on to the infinity marker.


Wow I had no idea it was complicated poke I thought lightning was just about infinite and you could just set it to that or make a mark on your lens. I guess you want it in as sharp focus as possible though.


I cant wait to have a good play with it but yeah, from what im learning its quite difficult but i guess it will get easier like anything mate.
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#1292817 - 20/12/2014 20:54 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Didn't realize my Dad had an old 35 -



No idea if any of it useful to me. I see made in Japan and macro written so hopefully decent quality and I can take pictures of small things.
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#1292819 - 20/12/2014 21:01 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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wow, imagine how many photos its taken. How many memories have been taken through those lenses.
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#1292822 - 20/12/2014 21:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Good luck finding somewhere to develop the film mate grin.
It's not easy anymore to get it done from what I hear. Not to mention bloody expensive.

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#1292824 - 20/12/2014 21:23 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
wow, imagine how many photos its taken. How many memories have been taken through those lenses.


Yeah blows my mind. It's been to Soviet Russia, Afghanistan, Nepal, South America, India...so many miles travelled.

Can tell from the case -


Brett - had a feeling that might be the case. Kind of a shame but I can still appreciate it, so well built. The polarizing filters might come in handy eventually.



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#1292825 - 20/12/2014 21:27 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yeah. They made things to last back then. Not to be thrown out in a couple of years. Still. Would be worth keeping for the collectability of it.

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#1292841 - 20/12/2014 23:32 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.
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#1292855 - 21/12/2014 01:00 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Markus]
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Originally Posted By: Markus

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.


Yeah sounds like there's still more to it than I expected. I'm sure I'll use some of the tips in here when I manage to find a storm.

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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!


That guy has my respect! really does seem to be a separate art to it we miss out on with digital (luckily? poke ) Might be cool to get my Dad a some film for xmas. Will suss out some options on google.


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#1292876 - 21/12/2014 09:30 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Originally Posted By: Markus

And yeah chris, not so much complicated just a matter of achieving infinity focus in different situations. Really is crucial to get very close to or at infinity for lightning, as even slightly oof ruins the bolt I've found, probably the most important thing in lightning photography. Relying on infinity marks can work, but given temperature and aperture effect focus to some degree, plus how touchy some lenses are, it really pays to do it manually.


Yeah sounds like there's still more to it than I expected. I'm sure I'll use some of the tips in here when I manage to find a storm.

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Still a few spots around to get film developed in radelaide, got a mate who is massively into it, pretty well shoots solely in film these days!


That guy has my respect! really does seem to be a separate art to it we miss out on with digital (luckily? poke ) Might be cool to get my Dad a some film for xmas. Will suss out some options on google.


I shot with some film a couple of years ago, but never got around to have it processed. Same with any of my DSLR shots, none of them have ever made it to be processed.
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#1292879 - 21/12/2014 09:40 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Yea I'm making an effort to get photos processed, when I bought my dslr I got a photo album and 100 free prints with it. Especially the photos I take at home or family outings. Actually I got a really nice photo of my parents and have gone and got that processed and framed for a Xmas present. The things you can do with a dslr is just amazing, and there is so much to learn.


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#1293464 - 25/12/2014 13:22 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Enjoy the new toy Chris(and everyone else that scored one for Xmas. I know I am

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#1293706 - 27/12/2014 12:19 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Been loving it Brett cheers.

Very happy with the quality for the price.
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#1295083 - 02/01/2015 18:20 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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My first little play arounds with my new baby. Brisbane CBD 2 nights ago.



Unfortunatly, one storm day to boot with crappy distant lightning

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#1295099 - 02/01/2015 18:52 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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At least you have had a storm trav.

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#1295727 - 03/01/2015 22:48 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Nice shots Trav.

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#1295939 - 04/01/2015 16:22 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Good work Trav. I'd be happy with that distant lightning shot poke can't wait to get my first capture.

Here's a pyrocumulus from the fires we had. You can see an aircraft down and to the left of center as a tiny white speck. -



And the next day -



Wasn't sure if it was a pyrocumulonimbus or not. There is some anvilling.

Things to improve -

first one is over-saturated a bit. Otherwise I like it.
second one is a bit blurry and not composed that well.
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#1298164 - 10/01/2015 03:47 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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That's better.



High resolution - http://i.imgur.com/0O9QUsr.jpg


Edited by Chris #3 (10/01/2015 03:50)
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#1298193 - 10/01/2015 09:09 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Nice mate, what program are you using to edit
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#1299446 - 14/01/2015 19:31 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
Nice mate, what program are you using to edit


Hey Trav. Just started learning lightroom. Got it off a 'mate' but will probably end up buying. Worth checking out I've only scratched the surface of what it can do.

Needing a tripod soon. Reckon this one looks like it'll do the trick (thanks Steve-o) -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Weifeng-W...D&isdl=y&af=ppc[/quote]

Anyone have any accessories like hard cases or battery grips for their canon? Hard case looking pretty good, need to make things more portable without having to worry about breaking the thing.

Got these shutter releases - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181419343124?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

And - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271616220607?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

About what you'd expect for the price but they both work. The wireless one doesn't have the best range but hard to complain over a $4.50 outlay.

Have taken so many bad pictures poke

Took a bunch of this rainbow and was thinking I had nailed a great full double rainbow (apart from powerlines) but only this one turned out -
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#1299465 - 14/01/2015 20:44 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Trev & Chris, both taking beaut pics - very impressive.

To reduce movement at the time of taking a pic. I use the cameras delayed timer, either 2 or 10 seconds.

First partial press to focus, finish pressing take button and then concentrate on not moving when the shutter operates.

Seems to help.
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#1299491 - 14/01/2015 21:56 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Cheers mate.

Camera movement is annoying - if I could have a super power, I'd consider being able to hold things completely still for extended periods of time (tripod man with gimbal action)

Dropped in on a camera club the other day and got some good stuff e-mailed to me, might be helpful to other beginners -

The Three Basics of Exposure and Photography from Matthew Gore on Vimeo.

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#1299779 - 15/01/2015 22:12 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Good link, thanks C#3, I'm def. in the beginner class.

Really enjoying the weather pics on WZ, quite outstanding :-)
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#1299792 - 15/01/2015 23:01 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Finally got a brilliant thunderstorm this evening, had to drive about 150km, but thats fine, have driven 600km to not see a cloud LOL





Got plenty more tonight, but really love these 2. I LOVE MY NEW 600D smile
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#1299793 - 15/01/2015 23:13 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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They are excellent trev, the layers in the first and the second with blue sky, dark cloud, cg and an orange sunset, wow !!
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#1299798 - 15/01/2015 23:42 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Thanks mate smile

I was really hoping a big massive crawler would happen right as that sunset flared up.

That would have been one for the pool room.
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#1299799 - 15/01/2015 23:56 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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You'll get 'em, putting in like that yields a result.

Doing very well as it is, I find I'm driving lately looking at the sky more for that 'special' pic...one day.
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#1300135 - 17/01/2015 09:44 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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got another one last night

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#1300142 - 17/01/2015 10:19 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Nice work Trav! Love the Portrait one with all the layers, and the foreground trees silhouetted.

Any particular settings you use or just experiment?
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#1300147 - 17/01/2015 10:43 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Last night was hard because it was all embedded and over exposing the clouds

So I put the F setting to 4 and Iso all the way down too 100 and it seemed to help. Anything above 400 was too bright.

The night where I got those CGs 2 nights ago I was at Iso 1000 and F5.

This is embarrassing because I stuffed up a ripper. It was raining amd had the tripod in the back seat. It bumped the 15 sec exposure before the bolt landed. Im still super angry

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#1300148 - 17/01/2015 10:44 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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That photo was last night ^^
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#1300149 - 17/01/2015 10:47 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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If your over exposing travel go right down with your f stops. Don't be scared to go down to 16 or even lower. It will give you much longer exposures .

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#1300151 - 17/01/2015 10:54 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Im not sure brett if it was because my F settings were too high, or if there was just so much intercloud lightning that it was just letting too much light in. Need more trial and error, looks like I should get another chance tonight to have a play
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#1300152 - 17/01/2015 10:56 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Fair enough. I might even shoot up the table lands this arvo if something happens. I haven't got a decent lightning pic yet and it is definitely something Ihave to work on. I ddon't live in a great area for it though.

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#1300153 - 17/01/2015 11:00 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Me neither, just gotta pick the day where its most likely that you are going to see thunderstorms go into the night.

Im running on about 3-4 good chases with 3-4 busts. My biggest bust I did 600km and only saw a shower
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#1300154 - 17/01/2015 11:01 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Tablelands should be good tonight, ill have a look at Ec later
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#1300155 - 17/01/2015 11:06 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Bsch have our best chance for early afternoon unfortunately. Never know though. Might get lucky. Just hope i finish work early enough.

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#1300163 - 17/01/2015 12:01 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Any other beginners looking for a camera - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/179383

Nikon D3100 DSLR with 18-55mm & 55-200mm VR Lens Kit $300 @ Big W
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#1390187 - 13/10/2016 12:47 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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A fair few of Nikons and Canons are beginner levels then you have your Mark D II and so on which are more professional and cost much more but you'd drool for features they have on your standard camera.

My first DSLR is a Canon 650D, bought online for $850 including the 18-55mm lens kit and the 55-200mm lens kit. Hasn't let me down once, the operator of the camera has a few times poke , after a while you learn the camera's focus which helps when it comes to pitch black conditions which I'm still yet to do when it comes to thunderstorms as where we are it has a great 180 degree view at 465ft ASL but can have a lot of light pollution from bolts to the west.

First ligtning bolt captured was very easy and was a nice CG up Gawler way. I read that lightning is the most difficult to get, day time yes, night easy but will have to find it

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#1390199 - 13/10/2016 14:11 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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I recently picked up the latest Nikon D5 camera which I'm very much hoping will be my last camera (at least for some time).

Now its a case of waiting for some decent storms to start my weather photography portfolio aided by having recently gotten my drivers licence and 1st car at aged 50.

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#1390206 - 13/10/2016 16:21 Re: First DSLR. [Re: Chris #3]
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Wow Locke, no mucking around getting your licence, straight into it!! Congrats.

Hopefully there are plenty of storms for you to chase and I look forward to seeing some of your images.
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