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#1296103 - 04/01/2015 22:26 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Nothing I can say will help .
But it sounds like your options are try to have your sale date changed or even location changed . Where were they booked to sell from ?! .
Or , when your certain that the rain will fall try to waterproof the pickup yard and road to it . Obviously this is a naive take on it . Do you have other avenues to sell from . Or even somewhere or someone to help ?
I know it sounds dumb , but could your brother help . After all he would be helping you to leave ? Which sounds like it was his goal ?!?
I'm usually good at problem solving but when it comes to farming , I'm miles from reality . Perhaps if you shared where the sale would be , maybe there could be someone that someone knew that could offer short term agistment in a location that wouldn't be too badly impacted by rain . Clearly you'd have double handling , but I'm just trying to throw out any sort of option for you .
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#1296114 - 04/01/2015 23:04 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Sale dates in yards are set. Every 2 weeks so unless somebody pays me for them and takes them like now then now I can't really do much. I have got enough hay for a while organised so that hopefully will come ASAP. As for my brother....his solution would be be shoot them all. It's just a bloody joke. The agistment thing, well I have been trying for 6 weeks to get some but the way things are around here that's not going to be an option. My uncle across the road has been a huge help and still is. But he doesn't want to put them on his place for fear of them powdering his place too. If it rains at least there will be green feed starting to come up if the worst happens and I cannot get them in. But really I just want to be rid of them now. So I can move on.

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#1296117 - 04/01/2015 23:16 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Where are the sale yards ? Local ? Regional ?
If it's only an inconvenience and rain would self sustain them . Then that's the cards you'll have to play with ?!?
Did you get any rain out of those storms yesterday ?
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#1296133 - 05/01/2015 01:17 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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4mm. The sale yards I have to go through are 100km. There are closer but not sure when they start. If I sold through those one I would half the price I get. Bit complicated.

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#1296134 - 05/01/2015 01:39 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Is it much more expensive to go further than 100 kms ?!? Could you double handle them ?
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#1296136 - 05/01/2015 05:15 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
adon Offline
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Thanks for your help mate but in reality it's the lack of time I have that is the major stress here. Because I am going off to work in 2.5 hours and don't knock off till 4 I just don't have the time to chase around anything like that. I find myself relying on neighbours and my poor uncle too much. He must dread picking up the phone now!

It's just a bad time of year because of the festive season shutdown. I should have sold them in November. But it's always the bloody time factor that catches me out. I didn't have any RDOs or help to get all the new lambs marked and you cannot sell un tagged sheep. God a can't wait till these things go. I reckon it will be like the de stress I should have had in my time off!

If anyone else is reading this let this be a lesson to you. Having livestock and a job doesn't mix.

I will be making calls once the time of day is decent and it's going to cost me a fair bit I reckon but I will get enough hay for a couple of weeks and also the same in grain. If I sell them on time, I will have stuff that might go to waste but that's the price for the pickle I am in. Damn it.......well best try and sleep again.


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#1296174 - 05/01/2015 10:38 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Hi adon.

You are under a lot of stress obviously. If it is any help to you, remember we are 'all' here, that little positive elf on your shoulder telling you to keep hanging in there and encouraging you all the way.

One step at a time, even though it's a challenge at the moment, and you can tick off those 'sorted out' boxes as each day/week goes by. You will get there. It may seem like forever that this is going on and on at the moment....but there is a light at the end of the tunnel once everything is sorted.

Best wishes, Duck wink

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#1296316 - 05/01/2015 22:38 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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all the best adon been a tough run in mallee since 2000 basically only 3 decent years.
seems your acting logically and in a rational way even though stress is eating away will be a relief eventually.
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#1296346 - 06/01/2015 07:44 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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You're going OK adon, you have a strong grasp on the things you need to do to reach some very valuable family goals.

Perhaps the stock agents need to get off their a@ses and find some short term agist. near the yards pre sale/rain if they want to earn some commission.

The positive side from widespread rain is that saleyard demand for your sheep will be better due to feed availabilty.

Nearly there mate, looking good.
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#1296580 - 06/01/2015 22:05 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
adon Offline
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It's not the stock agents fault, the one I have now is best I have dealt with. Problem is that nobody wants to have sheep on their farms in this dry. That might all change by the sound of it(the dry). Also I have myself in such a hole that I neither have the time to check on them but I don't have a ute to drive to them to check. I have always just used dads old Berger that is not registered as they were only at home on the block so I never had to drive on roads. I had the agistment option but the block(a friend) is in the same position as I am with a job in town and he doesn't have the time to check on them either!

I was looking for agistment for the last 2 months really and because if the season we experienced everybody is very edgy about putting sheep onto very dry paddocks with lass than ideal cover. Any where that does have the cover here are further north where the season was better but they are also 100% cropping and so they either have no fences of what they do have are not stock proof.

Carting stock a large distance only to cart them back for sale is a bit stupid and costly to boot.

I am just hoping that if this huge rain does come off, there will be grass everywhere so at least the feeding will slow down. Just need to get them gone.

I got my hay today and grain will be there tomorrow. With any luck, I will not have to buy any more again.


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#1298142 - 10/01/2015 00:17 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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It's been a few days adon.
Hope things are going ok still.

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#1298321 - 10/01/2015 14:28 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Nothing like some feed to generate some buyer interest adon, the rain is changing the situation for you, apart from the transport to the yards issue the rain will be very good for buyer confidence.

And what's the chances of 20mm ++ of rain in the Mallee in January with a promise of more. Someones looking after you.



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Edited by samboz (10/01/2015 14:29)
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#1298360 - 10/01/2015 16:19 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
adon Offline
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Sorry I typed a responce but I must not have pushed the go button. Anyhoo yeah the rain has pushed back a sale but also might have helped too. I will fill you all in more when I have got it sorted.

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#1299209 - 13/01/2015 16:37 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
DaveM Offline
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Good luck Adon, I don't usually post in the topics that you tend to be in but I always enjoy reading your thoughts.

Good luck with it all. I hope we continue to hear from you in the future. We lost our house and all our money in a business failure about 6 years ago. I was about 50 then, a bit hard starting again but as you said, at least you will not be in debt when you finish. A great shame re leaving the farm but sadly it's happening to way too many people.

All the best. Dave

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#1300223 - 17/01/2015 15:18 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Well they all left today.......I have a strange feeling of relief mixed with absolute grief. Mum still doesn't get that her lack of decision making has caused my departure. I don't know whether it's pure stupidity or she just chooses to ignore the facts.

Anyway that is a chunk of my life and in some ways, the best years of my life wasted..... Reality has kicked in and I realise that I will probably never get the chance to work for myself ever again. Even though it is not true I feel I have nothing. No direction, no goals, no......future apart from doing something just to pay bills. I have always worked away from the farm in the knowledge that this was to make ends meet until things changed. Now I don't have that. Scary indeed.

I will try to farm again. But in reality my wife will never be happy piggin it out again in some rural [censored] that has nothing for her. We will end up buying a house in a regional centre where she can get a job she feels is a good career and the mortgage will see to it that I never have anything spare to lease land/buy stock.

I might have to find a pub later on.

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#1300341 - 17/01/2015 20:11 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Thinking of you adon.

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#1300826 - 19/01/2015 09:39 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
DaveM Offline
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I worked for myself for about 6 years and it cost me my house and all my money, we are like you in that we now work for others just trying to pay the bills and try to get a house paid off enough so my super will cover the cost when (if) I ever retire.

It feels numbing at times but we decided to not think about it too much and just try and go a day at a time. Not very uplifting though!!

Hang in there and do whatever needs to be done. Like us your dreams seem to be lost but I've seen that this happens in one form another to many more people than we think.

Time to push on and do whatever it takes to get by, and the very best of luck. Know that people care.

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#1305713 - 04/02/2015 23:10 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
adon Offline
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Well it's over...... After a long and drawn out process, the sheep finally sold today. Of all the times to rain, it had to rain just before the sale my sheep were supposed to go and therefore the truck could not get in to load them. Fancy that eh? Drought all year and I could not sell them because of wet weather..... Hffff.

Anyway my stock agent found some agistment for me and they were shifted a few days later. A buyer was found and they took them today. The price? Well I am happy, I didn't get ripped off but their value to me was more than just money. But we will be out of debt and I have enough to do a few things to my fishing boat and maybe have a weekend away, no I have the time to do it.

Will I ever be a farmer again? Well I will never rule it out, it's all I have ever wanted to do but to be realistic, it will be difficult unless some things go my way.

So in the next few months, I will use the time that was spent either dealing with sheep or stressing about the farm to enjoy my family, do some things around the house and garden and hopefully do some fishing. I will also be keeping an eye out for an opportunity to leave the area in search of greener pastures. Thanks for all who have expressed their kind thoughts and support. I will hang around these forums still. Weather and the interest in it never dies with farmers!

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#1305738 - 05/02/2015 09:05 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Be good to read your comments as usual. smile

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#1305760 - 05/02/2015 11:56 Re: Pulling the pin [Re: adon]
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Goodonya adon for tellin' us about what's been happening at not tellin'. smile

Glad you're sticking around here.. cool
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