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#1278196 - 29/09/2014 16:50 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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Definitely Yasified,

I think it is everybody right to question ,and not be criticised for it. The problem is that too many people just like to be fed whatever the system feeds them .

A healthy society does question things especially in regards to what we are expected to consume.

I'm sure the Romans would not have been drinking out of lead vessels if they had of known of the consequences. Unfortunately the knowledge of what too much lead can do to your body was no known at the time.

Today we know a lot more of some of the consequences of these products that may be harmful to our health but we choose to ignore the facts. confused

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#1278396 - 01/10/2014 09:29 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: desieboy]
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It is like trends,fads and fashions, somebody suggests that it is fabulous so everybody follows blindly along like sheep and buys up, until the next trend/fad/fashion comes along.

like with GM foods big multinationals in the US spend hundreds of millions every year to oppose every labeling law ballot that comes along.That, you would have to question, why they are so content on keeping the US public in the dark on what is in their food. Is it because they are concerned that if people read that their food contains GM ingredients they would not buy it?



Originally Posted By: desieboy
Today we know a lot more of some of the consequences of these products that may be harmful to our health but we choose to ignore the facts. confused


Alot of that is also due to laziness on the part of people not wanting to change their diet,There was a program on about 12 months ago called fat, sick and nearly dead, where an overweight sick Aussie guy when across America talking to people (mainly overweight).
The common thread amongst the majority of them was they ate no fruit or vegetables, and they knew that the "food" that they were eating was doing them no good and was killing them and the majority said that they only expected to live to the '50's.

When the guy asked them to try the vegetable juice, they all tried it with trepidation, but the normal response was "oh, it's not for me" he also asked them "if there was something you could do that would add years to your life, like changing your diet, would you?" the general response was "no", it's just too hard"

So, people would rather just eat junk and die early because it is "too hard" to eat healthy?
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#1278434 - 01/10/2014 14:56 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Coles guilty of misleading "fresh" bread claims

Coles breached consumer law

Coles Fresh Bread

In a victory for common sense and consumers, the Australian Federal Court has today ruled that Coles breached the Australian Consumer Law (ACL) by labelling its par-baked bread “fresh”.

The supermarket claimed its par-baked bread was “Baked Today, Sold Today” and “Freshly Baked In-Store”, when it was actually partially baked and frozen off site (in some cases overseas), transported to Coles stores and finished off there.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), which brought the case to court, successfully argued that labelling of the not-so-freshly-baked-bread was likely to mislead consumers into thinking the bread was prepared from scratch in Coles’ in-house bakeries on the day it was offered for sale.



Read more: http://www.choice.com.au/media-and-news/...x#ixzz3Erl4wzcp
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#1279518 - 11/10/2014 12:41 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Makes for some interesting reading. Considering Chemicals are sprayed all over the foods that you eat.

Major Pesticides Are More Toxic to Human Cells Than Their Declared Active Principles

Pesticides are used throughout the world as mixtures called formulations. They contain adjuvants, which are often kept confidential and are called inerts by the manufacturing companies, plus a declared active principle, which is usually tested alone. We tested the toxicity of 9 pesticides, comparing active principles and their formulations, on three human cell lines (HepG2, HEK293, and JEG3). Glyphosate, isoproturon, fluroxypyr, pirimicarb, imidacloprid, acetamiprid, tebuconazole, epoxiconazole, and prochloraz constitute, respectively, the active principles of 3 major herbicides, 3 insecticides, and 3 fungicides. We measured mitochondrial activities, membrane degradations, and caspases 3/7 activities. Fungicides were the most toxic from concentrations 300–600 times lower than agricultural dilutions, followed by herbicides and then insecticides, with very similar profiles in all cell types. Despite its relatively benign reputation, Roundup was among the most toxic herbicides and insecticides tested. Most importantly, 8 formulations out of 9 were up to one thousand times more toxic than their active principles. Our results challenge the relevance of the acceptable daily intake for pesticides because this norm is calculated from the toxicity of the active principle alone. Chronic tests on pesticides may not reflect relevant environmental exposures if only one ingredient of these mixtures is tested alone.

Full report: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/
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#1279568 - 11/10/2014 20:13 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Originally Posted By: -Cosmic- (naz)
I think that whether the majority of illnesses and diseases are caused by our dietary habits and lifestyle choices is open to question.


Healthy living advocate J. I. Rodale wrote a book called The Healthy Hunzas in 1955 that asserted that the Hunzas, noted for their longevity and many centenarians, were long-lived because of their consumption of healthy organic foods such as dried apricots and almonds, as well as them getting plenty of fresh air and exercise.[20] He often mentioned them in his Prevention magazine as exemplary of the benefits of leading a healthy lifestyle.

Furthermore, Clark reports that Hunza do not measure their age solely by calendar (metaphorically speaking, as he also said there were no calendars), but also by personal estimation of wisdom, leading to notions of typical lifespans of 120 or greater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burusho_people

The use of the words "disease," "illness," or "medical condition" interchangeably I believe convolutes their contextual meanings.

For example can you call a psychological illness someone has had since birth (or rather a "medical condition" more pertinently) a disease? I think that would be a misuse of the term "disease" in the context of mental health. Although that could be a subjective interpretation without proper medically-specific research references, given I'm making it clear this is my opinion.

Another example might be the common cold - disease or illness, yes may be, caused (i.e. caused directly or indirectly) by poor health choices...maybe, but its actual contraction seems to imply otherwise.

...that's why disease an illness, in my view, have causes [plural] open to question smile . Poor health and/or lifestyle choices is, from what I can tell, but one facet of the whole topic!


Edited by -Cosmic- (naz) (11/10/2014 20:18)
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#1280085 - 14/10/2014 10:18 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Seira]
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Ohh, now that's interesting!

Syngenta Sued for $1 Billion Damages over China’s Rejection of GM Corn as China Halts Its GM Rice and Corn Programmes

US corn prices plummeted as China rejected all shipments containing traces of Syngenta’s MIR162. Farmers from 5 major corn growing states have filed 3 class action lawsuits against Syngenta, claiming damages of more than $1 billion [1, 2].


Syngenta released MIR162, trade name Agrisure Vipera, in 2009. It is engineered to make a Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) protein vip3Aa20 toxic to lepidopteran insect pests (butterflies and moths) [3], and also has a gene pmi (phosphomannose isomerase) from E. coli to allow positive selection for the transgene. It was created with Agrobacterium tumefaciens-mediated plant transformation, a particularly hazardous vector system that risks further horizontal gene transfer (see [4] Ban GMOs Now, ISIS Special Report). While MIR162 is approved for use in the US, China has not allowed its import into the country.

Syngenta is blamed for destroying the export of US corn to China, which led to depressed prices for domestic corn, according to Volnek Farms, the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit filed in Omaha, Nebraska federal court. The two other suits were filed in Iowa and Illinois federal courts.

None of the farmers involved in the lawsuits planted MIR162 seed in their fields in Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska. But their harvested crop was contaminated with traces of the transgenic trait, and hence unsalable to the Chinese market.

Although Viptera has been planted on only about 3 % of US farm acreage, it is difficult to say for sure “that any shipments of US corn will not be contaminated with trace amounts of MIR162”, the Nebraska plaintiff stated.

The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA) had encouraged Syngenta to stop selling Viptera, according to the Iowa claim. The NGFA estimated that actions taken in China against US corn have caused prices to drop by 11 cents per bushel. The Iowa suit also claims that the release of Syngenta’s Viptera caused the US to China export market to drop by 85 %. Nebraska plaintiffs, too, accuse Syngenta of having crippled the 2013-14 corn export market to China. The NGFA reported in April 2014 that China had barred nearly 1.45 million tons of corn shipments since 2013.

In 2011, Syngenta requested in federal court that a grain elevator firm, Bunge North America, to remove its signs that said it would not accept Vipera corn. The request was denied.

Concern over the safety of GM food may have played a role in a recent decision by China’s officials to move away from GM production. In August, China’s Ministry of Agriculture announced it would not continue with GM rice and corn

http://permaculturenews.org/2014/10/14/s...orn-programmes/
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#1308260 - 16/02/2015 10:33 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Never-Before-Seen-Evidence points to genetically engineered foods as a major contributor to rising disease rates in the US population, especially among children. Gastrointestinal disorders, allergies, inflammatory diseases, and infertility are just some of the problems implicated in humans, pets, livestock, and lab animals that eat genetically modified soybeans and corn.
Monsanto’s strong arm tactics, the FDA’s fraudulent policies, and how the USDA ignores a growing health emergency are also laid bare. This sometimes shocking film may change your diet, help you protect your family, and accelerate the consumer tipping point against genetically modified organisms (GMOs). Don’t miss this film! http://geneticroulettemovie.com/
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#1312954 - 23/02/2015 08:22 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Makes for some interesting reading. Considering Chemicals are sprayed all over the foods that you eat.

Major Pesticides Are More Toxic to Human Cells Than Their Declared Active Principles

Pesticides are used throughout the world as mixtures called formulations. They contain adjuvants, which are often kept confidential and are called inerts by the manufacturing companies, plus a declared active principle, which is usually tested alone. We tested the toxicity of 9 pesticides, comparing active principles and their formulations, on three human cell lines (HepG2, HEK293, and JEG3).
Roundup was among the most toxic herbicides and insecticides tested. Most importantly, 8 formulations out of 9 were up to one thousand times more toxic than their active principles. Our results challenge the relevance of the acceptable daily intake for pesticides because this norm is calculated from the toxicity of the active principle alone. Chronic tests on pesticides may not reflect relevant environmental exposures if only one ingredient of these mixtures is tested alone.

Full report: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/


While i didn't major in Chemical genetics - this research seems pointless.

Firstly, Adjuvants are generally considered inert by themselves and by law needs to be independently researched by the EPA before dissemination to a public forum or sold. Focusing on roundup is a good example, as they specifically state it’s performed quite profoundly in the testing.

Chemical Formular = C3H8NO5P (Glyphosate) – you’ll see it has a couple of dissociable hydrogen’s. The testings they use, simply adds a dye which is visable when the plasma membrane is damaged (cell death, so to speak). Problem is hydrogen can effect this visibility and as stated in the research, some of the agents tested contain dye’s and bugger up the LDH cytotoxicity reading giving non-verifiable results.

The most profound problem with the results, aren’t the actual results – the use of kidney / liver and embryonic cells is common practice – the problem is statements like this

Were the most toxic from concentrations 300–600 times lower than agricultural dilutions”

Glyphosate absorption into the human body is virtually zero, so agricultural dilutions mean nothing as the chemical can’t reach the cells they are testing on and the minute amount that is absorbed is exponentially smaller than the doses they’ve tested at.

Also, for the life of me i can’t find a control anywhere in the research to illustrate innate decay rates in cells not spiked with chemicals....because cells just die, we lose about 50 billion each day, it's how multi-cellular organism regulate. That’s not to say these aren’t dangerous, but research is easily manipulated.

However, actual useful research into Organophosphates (used in virtually all Herbicides / Insecticides) are currently being linked to Parkinson’s Disease and other degenerative disorder’s as they are proposed to inhibit cholinesterase activity.

Kiribati (small island nation in central pacific) has the highest Parkinson’s death rate in the world, almost 200% higher than 2nd place and guess what there major export was prior to 1980? Organophosphates.

Ironically Organophosphates are not used in Roundup and as much as i dislike chemicals on food, Roundup is ridiculously safe and has 40+ years of research into anatomical interaction behind it. It's about as deadly to us as eating gold.

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#1312956 - 23/02/2015 08:37 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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To follow on, as it wont let me edit.

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8 formulations out of 9 were up to one thousand times more toxic than their active principles


Well duh - herbicides tend to work on Amino Acid mimicry, causing cell death...that's kinda the point of a herbicide. Formulations (Active Ingrediant + Adjuvants) are going to work better than just the active ingrediant as that the point of adding Adjuvants. What chemists do is ensure the chemical is not readily absorbed in humans - which roundup isn't.

The other chemicals tested i can't speak for, but the research is typical fear-mongering through in vitro research manipulation.

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#1313289 - 24/02/2015 09:28 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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Thank you for injecting some fact and logic into this discussion Kev. I don't expect it will make an iota of difference to those who spam the forum with emotionally charged propoganda, but all the same it is appreciated.

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#1313366 - 24/02/2015 14:49 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Andy Double U]
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I thought that you were into Organic,sustainable and alternative growing methods Andy?
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#1313399 - 24/02/2015 16:52 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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Whats Organic Yasified?

You, yourself are growing Cultivar's of varying types of fruits / vegetables...these are artificially selected, anthropogenic plants cultivated for various GENETIC mutations / characteristics that are deemed positive and profitable. Cell mutation is cell mutation, whether it's promoted in a laboratory or in the soil.

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#1313416 - 24/02/2015 17:30 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Kev86]
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Organic is the type that is not smothered in chemicals because people are brainwashed to believe that "that is the only way you can grow food" or that they are perfectly safe to eat...

I grow open traditional pollinated varieties.

Inserting a gene from a fish or gene from roundup and inserting it into a plant is not the same.
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#1313592 - 25/02/2015 10:18 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: Kev86
Roundup is ridiculously safe and has 40+ years of research into anatomical interaction behind it. It's about as deadly to us as eating gold.


To follow on, as it wont let me edit.

Quote:
8 formulations out of 9 were up to one thousand times more toxic than their active principles


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/30/glyphosate-toxicity.aspx
Well duh - herbicides tend to work on Amino Acid mimicry, causing cell death...that's kinda the point of a herbicide. Formulations (Active Ingrediant + Adjuvants) are going to work better than just the active ingrediant as that the point of adding Adjuvants. What chemists do is ensure the chemical is not readily absorbed in humans - which roundup isn't.

The other chemicals tested i can't speak for, but the research is typical fear-mongering through in vitro research manipulation.


An article published on Greenmedinfo.com4 last year reviewed several interesting studies relating to the profound toxicity of Monsanto’s herbicide Roundup:

“Back in Feb. of 2012, the journal Archives of Toxicology5 published a shocking study showing that Roundup is toxic to human DNA even when diluted to concentrations 450-fold lower than used in agricultural applications.

This effect could not have been anticipated from the known toxicological effects of glyphosate alone. The likely explanation is that the surfactant polyoxyethyleneamine within Roundup dramatically enhances the absorption of glyphosate into exposed human cells and tissue,” Sayer Ji writes.

“If this is true, it speaks to a fundamental problem associated with toxicological risk assessments of agrichemicals (and novel manmade chemicals in general), namely, these assessments do not take into account the reality of synergistic toxicologies, i.e. the amplification of harm associated with multiple chemical exposures occurring simultaneously.”

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/30/glyphosate-toxicity.aspx
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#1313602 - 25/02/2015 11:15 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak


Inserting a gene from a fish or gene from roundup and inserting it into a plant is not the same.


You can't insert a gene from roundup, it's a chemical compound.

Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
I grow open traditional pollinated varieties.


No - You're growing cultivars, regardless how you propagate them - they are genetically mutated cultigens of a base species artificially seleted by humans for positive traits. Regardless of if you hand-pull the caterpillars of them. Most 'traditional' species don't even exist anymore, except in cryogenic preservation at various university s / government facilities. People didn't eat 1kg cucumbers in the paleolithic era.


Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak

An article published on Greenmedinfo.com4 last year reviewed several interesting studies relating to the profound toxicity of Monsanto’s herbicide Roundup:

“Back in Feb. of 2012, the journal Archives of Toxicology5 published a shocking study showing that Roundup is toxic to human DNA even when diluted to concentrations 450-fold lower than used in agricultural applications.

This effect could not have been anticipated from the known toxicological effects of glyphosate alone. The likely explanation is that the surfactant polyoxyethyleneamine within Roundup dramatically enhances the absorption of glyphosate into exposed human cells and tissue,” Sayer Ji writes.

“If this is true, it speaks to a fundamental problem associated with toxicological risk assessments of agrichemicals (and novel manmade chemicals in general), namely, these assessments do not take into account the reality of synergistic toxicologies, i.e. the amplification of harm associated with multiple chemical exposures occurring simultaneously.”


I answered this already, but ill go again.

Roundup works on prohibiting Amino Acid uptake in cells, killing them. It kills cells...

So research into it killing cells is not amazing, the problem is it can't physically get to the cells to kill them as it can't be absorbed through dermal contact, ingested or inhaled in any quantifiable amount. This make it safe.


Also -


Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak

We are brainwashed into believing that small amounts of poisons are perfectly permissible.


They are perfectly permissible, perhap look at the World Health Standards for drinking water and the permissible ammounts of "poisons" in the water you drink - Lead, Cadnium, Arsenic, E Coli, etc, as small quantities are permissible.

I've personally done heavy metal research on OLP Facilities, with controls to rain water, you should see some of the poisons in pure rain water - geographically.

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#1313864 - 26/02/2015 10:48 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Kev86]
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Originally Posted By: Kev86
You can't insert a gene from roundup, it's a chemical compound.
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Roundup Ready plants carry the gene coding for a glyphosate-insensitive form of this enzyme http://www.pnas.org/content/103/35/13010.full



Originally Posted By: Kev86
So research into it killing cells is not amazing, the problem is it can't physically get to the cells to kill them as it can't be absorbed through dermal contact, ingested or inhaled in any quantifiable amount. This make it safe. .


According to the evidence of the City Hospital of Birmingham, UK, the more severe cases of glyphosate poisoning include renal failure, respiratory distress, shock and arrhythmia.

According to the World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization, early symptoms of glyphosate poisoning include vomiting, diarrhea and other flu-like symptoms. Both organizations also advise that poisoning can occur by absorption through the skin or eye contact, therefore the area of absorption may also be irritated. The individual may develop a rash or an itchy, red patch where the chemical originally made contact. If ingested, the poisoning would mimic food poisoning and cause stomach cramps and possible throat irritation.

Even going by the companies own literature they state avoid contact with skin and eyes, do not inhale..

Originally Posted By: Kev86
No - You're growing cultivars, regardless how you propagate them - they are genetically mutated cultigens of a base species artificially seleted by humans for positive traits. Regardless of if you hand-pull the caterpillars of them. Most 'traditional' species don't even exist anymore, except in cryogenic preservation at various university s / government facilities. People didn't eat 1kg cucumbers in the paleolithic era.


I’m growing varieties where the seed can be saved to be planted again the next season, rather than the F1 hybrids where if you save to replant the seed they no longer come true to type or will be less vigorous.
Or even worse growing plants with “terminator seed technology” where they do not produce viable seed.Or even worse someone owns the "rights" to the seed.

And at the end of the day the seed that i plant will be more suited to my local climate and growing conditions.

Originally Posted By: Kev86
They are perfectly permissible, perhap look at the World Health Standards for drinking water and the permissible ammounts of "poisons" in the water you drink - Lead, Cadnium, Arsenic, E Coli, etc, as small quantities are permissible


That’s right, because we now live in a world that is so overloaded with chemicals (pesticides,herbicides,pharmaceuticals,mercury,pollution from factories,cars,trucks) we have to make “allowance” for them in everyday life because they can no longer fully filter them out effectively (or just to cover their backside in case they get sued)

It’s a bit like the GM pushers wanting to lift the “allowable” level of GM contamination in organic produce from 0% to.9% just because the GM growers cannot control their own crops and Organic growers are expected to compensate for that
Or like raising the “allowable” limits of roundup in food because farmers are now having to use higher amounts of the chemical and spray more often because the weeds have become resistant to roundup.
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#1313877 - 26/02/2015 12:20 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Frito-Lay SunChips Test Positive for Weedkiller and GMOs

TEST RESULT: GLYPHOSATE

The glyphosate residue test was conducted by an accredited lab using the Specific LC/MS/MS testing method with a minimum detectable level of 0.02 ppm. The test documented the presence of glyphosate in SunChips at a level of 0.14 ppm, or 0.14 mg/kg. As we reported in the findings of our Froot Loops testing, this gives significant reason for concern. There is a growing body of scientific evidence that indicates that glyphosate bioaccumulates in our bodies. Glyphosate was found to be frequently present in people’s urine, with the levels being higher in individuals with chronic diseases and has been detected in breast milk. Studies have linked glyphosate to health and environmental harm including endocrine disruptive capability, birth defects, male infertility and chronic kidney disease. Glyphosate has been found to kill beneficial gut microbiota in chickens. There have been no human health trials.


http://www.gmofreeusa.org/food-testing/frito-lay-sunchips/
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#1314446 - 01/03/2015 13:26 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Greg Sorenson]
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According to this glyphosate link:

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It is extremely unlikely that human users or members of the public would be exposed to doses as high as those used in the [animal] trials,

[] Added.

[September 1996]


Edited by -Cosmic- (naz) (01/03/2015 13:32)
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#1314529 - 01/03/2015 18:24 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: -Cosmic- (naz)
According to this glyphosate link:

Quote:
It is extremely unlikely that human users or members of the public would be exposed to doses as high as those used in the [animal] trials,

[] Added.

[September 1996]


You are quoting a 19 year old article for current use of Herbicides?

Here's a few.

Quote:

The huge increase in the amount of glyphosate applied to GE food and feed crops has significantly increased our exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals.

Link


Originally Posted By: Herbicide and Insecticide Use on GMO Crops Skyrocketing
Over 99% of GMO acreage is engineered by chemical companies to tolerate heavy herbicide (glyphosate) use and/or produce insecticide (Bt) in every cell of every plant over the entire growing season. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bronner/herbicide-insecticide-use_b_5791304.html


Originally Posted By: The correlation trap
4. Use of glyphosate on herbicide-resistant crops has skyrocketed since 1995.
5. Incidence, prevalence and deaths due to these diseases has also skyrocketed since 1995.
http://www.cropgen.org/article_480.html
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#1314540 - 01/03/2015 19:22 Re: Farming, food production and consumers [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Originally Posted By: -Cosmic- (naz)
According to this glyphosate link:

Quote:
It is extremely unlikely that human users or members of the public would be exposed to doses as high as those used in the [animal] trials,

[] Added.

[September 1996]


You are quoting a 19 year old article for current use of Herbicides?

Yes, I am. I guess we agree on that smile .
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