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#1336314 - 23/07/2015 11:58 Lambing in Winter?
ozthunder Offline
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A question from an ignorant city person.

Why do we have lambing in NSW in the dead of winter?

Read an article about a 40% lamb loss due to snow over last 2 weeks.

I know when I went for my snow chase to Crookwell on the first lesser snow event this month there were lambs everywhere in the area, some trotting around with no obvious sign of distress in a couple of cms of patchy snow. However the latter snow dump would have put the same paddocks up to the lambs necks.
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#1336317 - 23/07/2015 12:15 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
Homer Offline
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Good question.
When I went for my drive around Central NSW during the school holidays, I too, was also surprised at the amount of lambs.
At this stage, I knew this cold snap was coming, and was wondering that when the BOM issue a Sheep Graziers Warning, what the farmers would do, as I noticed not many farms had substantial shedding for protection of their stock.

Homer.

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#1336341 - 23/07/2015 17:22 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
Alexia Offline
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Loc: Corryong
ewes get in lamb when in season. Normal time for sheep.

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#1336350 - 23/07/2015 19:45 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
sparraz Offline
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Few reasons. In some areas winter lambing ensures ewes have access to green feed while lambing which reduces mortality.
Markets.....which market the producer is aiming for.
Breed of ewes being joined.....merino will join anytime of year, European breeds only from Autumn onwards.
It has been an unusually harsh winter in some areas with the snow.....40% mortality is probably unusual and disappointing for those effected.
We lamb in Autumn.....Dohne Merino ewes but aim for the sucker market but in our area the advantage of nice weather to lamb in usually coincides with a feed gap so hand feeding is required at lambing which brings with it it's own issues regarding mortality.

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#1336353 - 23/07/2015 20:17 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
samboz Offline
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Good posts Alexia & sparraz,

Our small (Vic) Dorper mob started lambing 19/6, had those few in early with ram, the rest won't lamb till after 5/8, hoping to have them grown out and good enough to do something with by early Summer ie kill for home use or sell off.

Another local lambs in March, that would give a better chance of growing out by the end of the year with green feed for the entire time.

Hard slog dry feed in mid to late summer is not helpful to lambs still on the ewe or weaned off and 100% paddock fed.
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#1337217 - 02/08/2015 01:31 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
Fine Elsewhere Offline
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Mothers have heaps of milk on green feed, Lambs grow well in Spring time, shearing and crutching all considerations also. Funny thing is with winter lambing, that when a weather change come about, lambs drop on the worst of nights - a midwife I know says its due to barometric pressure, similar in humans! As a boy, my father would have a strong mixture of cows milk with a shot of brandy on hand, any that looked too weak would get a few mouthfuls and then put into the open oven of the wood fire to warm up.I often wondered about the fact they might end up back in there as a roast one day! Cheers FE

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#1339524 - 26/08/2015 12:31 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
samboz Offline
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Only a handfull of Dorper ewes for home meat, nearly finished lambing and 10 of the 11 lambs have been rams, never struck that before.

Thought it unusual.
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Rain total 2016 - 753.5mm.
J-173mm. F-5mm. M-66mm. A-32.5mm. M-24mm
J-88mm. J-143mm. A-17.5mm. S-89.5mm. O-53.5mm.
Nov-61.5mm. Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm. Feb-23mm. March-49mm
April-40mm. May-9mm to 0900 29th.

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#1339585 - 27/08/2015 09:45 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
samboz Offline
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Finished lambing @145% with twin ram lambs last night, 12 out of 13 lambs being ram lambs. (92.3% rams for the arithmetic)

And we are set for some good rain 1 - 2" today.

Spread super yesterday smile
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Rain total 2016 - 753.5mm.
J-173mm. F-5mm. M-66mm. A-32.5mm. M-24mm
J-88mm. J-143mm. A-17.5mm. S-89.5mm. O-53.5mm.
Nov-61.5mm. Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm. Feb-23mm. March-49mm
April-40mm. May-9mm to 0900 29th.

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#1339657 - 27/08/2015 21:39 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
sparraz Offline
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Registered: 19/03/2014
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Good result samboz if you are not wanting ewe lambs to keep.
We have a mob of 500 lambs who are out of Dohne Merino ewes with white suffolk/dorper cross rams. They are very impressive so we are considering going down this path with all of our rams. We have traditionally had pure bred white suffolk rams and the rest of our ewes this year were joined to these but are very happy with the cross in this one mob which was a bit of an experiment this year.....the dorper does add that extra thickness to them and they seem to grow a bit quicker too which is good for suckers. Their skins are nice and tight too.
We need some rain out here in North west Victoria....have plenty of sheep feed now but the crops are really struggling now.....hopefully next week we might see some this side of Victoria....just a smidgen of what Sydney got would be nice.


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#1339811 - 29/08/2015 21:18 Re: Lambing in Winter? [Re: ozthunder]
samboz Offline
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Registered: 16/11/2014
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Loc: Between Maffra & the Mountains...
Interesting crosses there sparraz. Imagine they would be big lambs with the White Suffolk putting some leg on them. A pic would be good one day if you got a chance, like to see them.

Just looked at Access and round Wed/Thur next week a low is shown over western VIC & NSW, could be widespread rains, fingers crossed for you.
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Rain total 2016 - 753.5mm.
J-173mm. F-5mm. M-66mm. A-32.5mm. M-24mm
J-88mm. J-143mm. A-17.5mm. S-89.5mm. O-53.5mm.
Nov-61.5mm. Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm. Feb-23mm. March-49mm
April-40mm. May-9mm to 0900 29th.

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