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#1384456 - 12/08/2016 09:11 Lenses and Cameras
DaveM Offline
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Ronfishes was wondering about a lens topic.

Here's one grin

My Nikon has a bog standard 18 - 55, originally I also used a 55 - 200 Nikon too but I found mine to be ridiculously soft at times. At some points/settings it was quite ok but sometimes VERY VERY soft.

I replaced it with a Tamron 70~300 VC DI USD lens which is a MUCH heavier lens than the Nikon and I like it MUCH more than the cheapie kit Nikon zoom.

Noticeably sharper but then it costs a fair bit more. smile

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#1384466 - 12/08/2016 13:02 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
Ronfishes Offline
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Cheers Dave,

I also have the canon version of the kit 18-55 which I have quickly found to be underwhelming, but that was to be expected I guess.
I have borrowed a couple of times a Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens (similar to your Tamron by the looks Dave) which I found ok but not enough light in for what I was using it for (indoor sport).

Also keen for a high quality Landscape lens a some stage, although at this point my priority is for the one for indoors, I think I know which one I would ultimately like but holy $$
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#1384477 - 12/08/2016 15:51 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
DaveM Offline
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Yes for indoors you need that wider aperture.

Back in the old days, I had a WONDERFUL f1.4 50mm Olympus (Zuiko) lens and I could take hand held photos with that in VERY low light at times. Would love to have something like that pins sharp lens again!!

I really miss using the old OM4 and those beautiful prime lenses.

However I also had (still have) a few zuiko zooms as well and I swear they are better than the majority of lenses around today. Had a nice small 75 - 150, a nice 35 - 70, the other was I think an 85 ~ 250 which was very heavy but nice and sharp.

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#1384479 - 12/08/2016 16:01 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
Brett Guy Offline
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Ah. If only we could afford our dream lenses without the need for a divorce. Oh well. At least there are some pretty good options that don't set one back a months wages. Got the sigma 150-600 not long ago for wildlife and am pretty happy.

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#1384480 - 12/08/2016 16:13 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
DaveM Offline
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Yes that's a BIG top end there!!

High shutter speed, tripod the go when extending that sucker!! grin

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#1384484 - 12/08/2016 17:56 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
Brett Guy Offline
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Actually it's not too bad re the weight. I didn't get the heavier sport version and the one i got is definitely manageable as a hand holdable lens at 600.

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#1384489 - 12/08/2016 19:12 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
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Remember using a 2 1/4" format twin lens Yashica (or similiar) with fully manual settings aided by a small needle pointer light meter.

Have forgotten a lot of that now, took some very sharp low light pics and night shots with flash.

Holding it a waist height to focus was a little limiting but they were great old cameras and soldiered on for ever.
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#1384528 - 13/08/2016 09:24 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
DaveM Offline
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Hey Brett - I was thinking more about camera shake than weight smile

Samboz, I love those old cameras smile My dad started out with Yashica stuff and it was always producing really sharp images too. smile

I would still love to buy a Bronica/Hasselblad etc one day.

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#1384537 - 13/08/2016 11:10 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
samboz Offline
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I'd love to have one also Dave. Back then the satisfaction of getting things right and producing good pics was much greater because you might not see the results for several weeks.

Some understanding was held re settings - aperature/exposure time and depth of field, now - well forgot most of that and can save/edit/email pics 5 minutes after they are taken, still great to produce some pics that you like. grin
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Rain total 2016 - 753.5mm.
J-173mm. F-5mm. M-66mm. A-32.5mm. M-24mm
J-88mm. J-143mm. A-17.5mm. S-89.5mm. O-53.5mm.
Nov-61.5mm. Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm. Feb-23mm. March-49mm
April 40mm to 0900 26th.

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#1384541 - 13/08/2016 12:50 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
Brett Guy Offline
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Fair enough Dave. Definitely a lot of shake at 600 but it has pretty good stabilization and seems to be pretty sharp at 1/600th or better. Tripod certainly makes things a lot easier thougg

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#1384654 - 16/08/2016 10:52 Re: Lenses and Cameras [Re: DaveM]
DaveM Offline
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Loc: Bathurst NSW about 700 m asl
Yes Brett, the old "rule" was that the shutter speed should be the reciprocal of the lens length to avoid shake. Complicated these days if using a NON full frame by magnification of 1.5 or 1.6. That makes the effective length of a 600mm lens (at full zoom) approx a 900mm or so. Hence under old folk lore, need a shutter speed of around 1000th of second.

As an offset of course, anti shake seems to work quite nicely these days smile

Tripods certainly help with long lenses smile

If getting extreme, mirror lock up, remote shutter release all help to remove shake out of the process. smile

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