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#1386715 - 10/09/2016 09:50 Frost season 2016
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Now we are getting into the season for frost damage I thought I would start a thread for my and anyone else's comments on frost probability/occurence this season. This way my posts won't clutter up other threads.
For those who don't know the BOM has a good frost forecast page-

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/weather/frost.jsp

But it only goes 2 days ahead.
Right now I have peaches, Japanese plums, almonds and apricots flowering. Coming up soon are cherries, apples pears, grapes and European plums. Only my grapes are protected with frost sprinklers. I didn't have to use the sprinklers at all last year which was great but it means I have 2 years of maintenance to get them operational this year.

It looks pretty good for the coming week with lots of low pressure, cloud and rain predicted. Sunday night is a bit of a concern if the wind drops and the cloud clears. The rest of the week looks pretty good though the forecast for thursday morning is -1, I can't see that happening if the low pressure sticks around. BY next saturday morning if the cloud clears there might be some risk, but that is a long way off.

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#1386799 - 11/09/2016 09:18 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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This morning was 4. Tonight is forecast 2, light frost on the paddock, then pretty much frost free all week till saturday morning 2 again. Might be a bit cold for apricots but ok for everything else.

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#1386850 - 11/09/2016 19:31 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Interesting thread Greg and I'll be following it, even though it doesn't really affect me.
I'm a city dweller with a few back yard garden vegies.

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#1386885 - 12/09/2016 09:00 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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This morning was 2 degrees, a light frost on the creek flats. The plums and peaches should be okbut I'm not sure about the apricots, I hope a few survived.
At this stage frost is good for the grapevines because it delays budburst. That means fewer days of frost risk and also pushes back ripening so the grapes aren't ripening in the hottest days of summer. Bathurst and Orange get very good weather in autumn with warm, dry, sunny weather for long periods. Bathurst doesn't have many vineyards because there are a lot of other established areas (Orange, Mudgee, Hunter) and there isn't a lot of suitable land. Canberra is the new fashionable area for vineyards these days.

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#1386891 - 12/09/2016 09:30 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Forecast this week is good, cloud, low pressure and northerly winds, though if tonight is clear we might get another light frost.

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#1387210 - 14/09/2016 16:41 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Now there is a forecast for -1 on monday morning with a high pressure system. High pressure with a SW flow is the big danger. It is still a long way off and hopefully it will be SE instead. Easterly winds blow away the frost.

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#1387361 - 15/09/2016 09:19 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Yes I saw that -1 and thought of you. The weather is so variable at the moment, it may disappear altogether. Then again, history tells me that we are overdue for a bit stronger frost. Again though, as you mentioned, eaterlies, cloud etc may just continue on as the main thing for a while.

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#1387375 - 15/09/2016 10:11 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Today it feels like there could be a frost tonight if the wind drops but the forecast is for cloud so it should be OK.

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#1387380 - 15/09/2016 10:47 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Yes wind likely to be the saving grace for you. smile

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#1387409 - 15/09/2016 13:34 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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This spring is just going troppo! Weekly incursions of warm/moist troughs from the north courtesy of the IOD combining with southern ocean fronts pushing through.

Add in the saturated landscape which can only limit excessive overnight cooling and I'd reckon you could just about kiss the frost season goodbye.

But, will I be planting tomatoes just yet?

Nope.
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#1387410 - 15/09/2016 13:51 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

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#1387459 - 15/09/2016 20:58 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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There seems to be a lot of uncertainty in the forecasts so it's hard to know what is coming. There is a lot of cloud and showery weather forecast so the chance of frosts in the next week seems low, but things could change.

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#1387508 - 16/09/2016 09:11 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Yep volatile forecast movements lately.

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#1387587 - 17/09/2016 08:30 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Last night went to bed and there was clear skies,no wind and 6C. Only got down to 4C min so there must have been some cloud, I saw they got a frost in Canberra. At this time of year it only takes a few hours of cloud-free weather in the early morning to get a frost developing.

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#1387761 - 19/09/2016 16:44 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Tonight looks very cool and clear, good chance of frost. All that water around might moderate temperatures a bit, should be a mega fog in Bathurst tonight.

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#1387794 - 20/09/2016 07:10 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Got down to 1C last night, a light frost on the paddock. No apricots this year but the plums and peaches should be ok. A light frost can be good for thinning the plums.

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#1387826 - 20/09/2016 11:56 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Orange AP got down to nearly -1C. Patches of frost around the house (up on a ridge) this morning.
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#1387840 - 20/09/2016 14:01 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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So it's the light frost that stopped the apricots?

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#1387853 - 20/09/2016 15:32 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Light frost and too much rain. Not a good year for apricots.

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#1388135 - 24/09/2016 18:21 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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This coming week there are a couple of cold fronts and plenty of 2-3C mornings forecast so there is potential for some frost. Thursday and friday look cold but there is also cloud forecast so it might be ok. Still a long way off so I will have to wait and see how the forecast develops.

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#1389345 - 04/10/2016 17:16 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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I've been off-line for a week, courtesy Telstra and a mysterious "outage". Anyway no frost all week even though it has been very cold, the cloud has kept the nights warm, plus all the standing water keeps things warm,almost like living near the sea. Tonight looks cold but cloudy and then we are forecast a spell of warm weather. Everything is flowering very late due to the cool spring. the cherries and european plums have just started and the shiraz buds are swelling enough to be damaged by frost. i have got the frost sprinklers for the shiraz ready but I don't think I will need them tonight. The apples are just about to start. Of my peach trees red haven and anzac have lost most of their crop but will have a couple of dozen peaches each, fragar and peacherine still have good crops, as do some nectarine seedlings growing on my top dam.


Edited by greg.l (04/10/2016 17:17)

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#1389501 - 05/10/2016 15:19 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Must be safe soon? Especially this year, frost not as prevalent. As you obviously know - a rogue frost can catch us unawares. Tricky little beasts.

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#1389509 - 05/10/2016 16:42 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Another month yet Dave till the risk of frost has passed.Most people in BX and orange don't plant tomatoes until the middle of november.
Tonight the BOM is predicting 6 but with a clear night and high pressure I think there could be a frost tonight. Maybe they think the cloud down south is headed this way. I hope they are right.

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#1389531 - 05/10/2016 21:56 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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It's down to 7 already with a clear sky and no wind. No cloud on the satellite so a frost seems fairly certain. All the standing water at my place might keep the place a bit warmer, due to the high specific heat of water.
It's down to 5.6 at 9.30 at bathurst airport, the forecast minimum of 6C seems a bit off.

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#1389546 - 06/10/2016 07:29 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Well some cloud did come over, Bathurst and Orange never got below 5C, though it got down to 3 at my place. I'm not sure how the BOM forecast that small area of cloud, it seemed like a fluke to me.
next risk of frost is after the cold front, wednesday morning. I'm hopeful the BOM can arrange some cloud to keep the frost away.

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#1389571 - 06/10/2016 11:48 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Yes next week may well run very close. Fingers crossed. smile

Last night I was saying similar things to you - essentially 6 degree min my ar**e. Gunna get cooler than that smile And it did indeed do that.

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#1389627 - 06/10/2016 18:38 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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The wisteria is flowering really this year,a sight we don't see very often. Most years we get one bad frost that kills all the buds. planting wisteria is very optimistic in bathurst.

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#1389961 - 10/10/2016 19:45 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Wednesday, thursday and friday morning look dangerous. Hopefully cloud will keep tuesday night warm, then there might be easterlies for thursday and friday morning. At least the forecast doesn't go below zero, so any frost should be mild. The big danger at this time of year is sub-zero temperatures that kill all the fruit. Due to the cool spring most of my apple trees haven't flowered yet which is good, cider is my main crop.

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#1390082 - 12/10/2016 07:08 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Got down to 1c this morning, a light frost. I gotup at midnight and it was 3 and a clear sky so I went out and turned on the frost sprinklers for the vines. I have to turn them on before the water freezes or the filter and sprinkler jets will clog with ice. Now I can't turn them off till the temperature rises because the heat that was released by the water freezing will be reabsorbed as the ice melts and freeze the buds.

I saw canberra got down to -1, that will be a concern for the vineyards there. Tonight is predicted 4c so hopefully I can get a good night's sleep.

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#1390140 - 12/10/2016 19:02 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Tonight the frost potential forecast says 5.8 for bathurst so hopefully the clouds will keep us warm tonight. Tomorrow an easterly wind is forecast which should keep the frost away for friday morning.


Edited by greg.l (12/10/2016 19:02)

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#1390215 - 13/10/2016 16:46 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Tomorrow morning might be a close thing.

Correct with the Wisteria, going crazy around here this year!! smile

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#1390232 - 13/10/2016 19:24 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Tonight the forecast is for 1.5C and some frost. With some cloud around and winds from the east I'm hopeful it won't get that cold.

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#1390244 - 13/10/2016 21:31 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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There is a decent easterly blowing tonight, the katabatic wind off the winburndale ranges. Once the easterly starts blowing there's not much chance of frost unless it gives up in the night. Usually it blows all night.

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#1390267 - 14/10/2016 10:12 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Well the easterly dropped right away, at 3am it was 4, by 6 it was down to 1. So it was a brief frost, not like the other night when it was 3 by midnight. There doesn't appear to be much damage, I think the frost was only low down and didn't get into the branches of the fruit trees. My fig still has fruit, the first time it has ever had a decent crop developing at this time of year.

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#1390269 - 14/10/2016 10:21 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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There would have been a few light frosts about this morning, going by the Orange AP overnight trace. Couldn't see any sign of it on the ground though, not that one would expect to given the thick green foliage that is present.

Yep, my very young fig tree, too, has the earliest fruit of its 5 year career. The other fruit trees are quite delayed with the cooler conditions as well as very wet feet.
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#1390270 - 14/10/2016 10:28 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Must have been a close thing smile

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#1390280 - 14/10/2016 11:42 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: DaveM]
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Must have been a close thing smile


Dealing with frost is like that. Sometimes the difference is less than one degree, the difference between losing your crop and getting plenty of fruit. Every little bit of protection helps - the bird netting on my vines, growing trees tall and dense to get maximum blanketing, the new dam near my orchard.

Then sometimes you get -2 in the middle of october and there isn't a thing you can do.

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#1390635 - 18/10/2016 08:58 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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got down to 2 last night, but no frost to speak of. A continuation of the pattern of never quite getting to zero.

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#1390647 - 18/10/2016 12:28 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Keeping you on the edge though!!

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#1390760 - 19/10/2016 20:38 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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It's already down to 7, clear calm night. The satellite shows cloud on the way, otherwise it might be a frosty night. Forecast is for minimum of 3, frost risk forecast says 5 so hopefully it will be alright. Down to 4.5 at orange.

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#1390777 - 20/10/2016 07:16 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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It only got down to 3 so the forecast was spot on. Was 4 at 1.30 so it didn't cool off much overnight. I think there was a bit of cloud and the weather switched round to the east. Another cold change for saturday so sunday and monday mornings are the next worry. So many cold changes this spring, but the temperature just doesn't want to get down to zero.

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#1390794 - 20/10/2016 09:56 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Got down to 1deg at Orange AP. Between 18.50 and 19.50 it dropped by 4deg so it looked to be heading into frost territory...out on the mower it certainly felt like it. After that the cooling then slowed, but there might have been a few patches of mild frost in susceptible locations.
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#1390893 - 21/10/2016 11:43 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Opticast has Sunday's and Monday's minima at Orange AP dropping to zero.
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#1391037 - 23/10/2016 09:20 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Last night only went down to 5 at my place, clouds came over. Tonight is a real chance of frost but then a stretch of warm weather.

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#1391149 - 24/10/2016 09:44 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Down to 1C this morning. I got up at 1.30 and it was 3 so I turned the frost sprinklers on the vineyard just to be safe. It wasn't really necessary in the end but it saves worrying all night.

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#1391156 - 24/10/2016 11:20 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Very close though wasn't it!!

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#1391230 - 25/10/2016 12:34 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Good coverage of light frost on the grass this morning. I suspect Greg would have had the sprinklers on again. Might be the last of it for a while.
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#1391239 - 25/10/2016 14:40 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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https://goo.gl/photos/yaF983TnwV2Ngyiw8

I hope this link works, it shows my vineyard after a frost 3 years ago on this date.

No frost here last night, only got down to 3, so I didn't need the sprinklers. Hopefully that is it for the frost season this year, though even in november there is a chance of frost.

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#1391242 - 25/10/2016 15:05 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Re your pic: this year has been most benign by comparison. That is one helluva frost! A pic like that could have been taken in WA earlier this spring.
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#1391244 - 25/10/2016 15:25 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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All the ice is from the sprinklers. The vines survived unscathed. So long as the sprinklers are on, new water keeps freezing, and the "heat of fusion" releases enough heat to stop the buds freezing. If I turn off the sprinklers while there is still ice on the buds, the buds will freeze and goodbye that year's crop. I am drinking the wine from that year and it is excellent.

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#1391245 - 25/10/2016 16:01 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Interesting that you make white wines, looking at the green grapes in your pic. I've only been to a vineyard (geography field study) that produces red wines. I assume you don't have any red grapes in your vineyard? Climate up there is probably too cold for them I'd imagine.
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#1391246 - 25/10/2016 16:07 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Those are shiraz grapes. They don't turn red until the stage called "veraison" in february. I grow shiraz, cab sav and sav blanc.

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#1391247 - 25/10/2016 16:10 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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In fact there aren't any grapes or flowers in that picture, it is too early. All the green in the picture is leaves and buds.

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#1391248 - 25/10/2016 16:28 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Someone mentioned Cab Sav? I love a Cab Sav!!

Do you sell your wines greg.l?
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#1391250 - 25/10/2016 16:35 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Ah that's right, it's all coming back to me now, we did a whole topic on viticulture and winemaking earlier this year in geography. I think the vineyard I went to near Kiama mainly produced merlot from memory.

I thought it was green but just not grapes lol.
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#1391254 - 25/10/2016 17:04 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: EddyG]
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Someone mentioned Cab Sav? I love a Cab Sav!!

Do you sell your wines greg.l?


This year I made about 250L, not really a commercial quantity. My 2014 cab sav is really good but I am down to my last 2 dozen bottles,my wife would kill me if i gave any away, and I mean that literally.

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#1391361 - 27/10/2016 10:28 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Only just spotted that photo. I find the way those frost sprinklers work (as you explained) to be amazing!! Who knew that you protected from frost by "FREEZING" something!! smile

I always wondered why sprinklers helped - assumed the water must not freeze, maybe an additive - BUT I thought that doesn't sound logical, especially in a big frost where you could almost kinda make snow with a sprinkler. Now I know more smile

Now don't worry about your wife, we're your new best buddies!!! grin

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#1391379 - 27/10/2016 12:29 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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I've used the sprinklers down to -2 and they still work well. It looks amazing to see so much ice, yet the new growth, which is so delicate and frost sensitive, comes out completely unscathed. The biggest mistake people make is turning off the sprinklers too early, you have to leave them going until all the ice melts away.

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#1391394 - 27/10/2016 14:17 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Complex business this horticulture!!

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#1391770 - 30/10/2016 19:16 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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The prediction is for 1c on tuesday morning hopefully it will be the last frost of the season. It has been a good spring at my place, I have plenty of cherries, peaches,plums,figs, pears, and probably a couple of tons of apples for cider. Alas no apricots but that is normal.

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#1391774 - 30/10/2016 19:43 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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What do you do with all your fruit and veg Greg?
Farmers markets? Or is it just for personal use?

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#1391780 - 30/10/2016 20:01 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Originally Posted By: greg.l
and probably a couple of tons of apples for cider.


Not only you make wines you make ciders too?? I love a cider as well!!!


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#1391794 - 30/10/2016 20:50 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
What do you do with all your fruit and veg Greg?
Farmers markets? Or is it just for personal use?


I just love fruit, growing, preserving, eating, cooking,fermenting, it's all good. I plan to start a business selling cider in a few years when I have enough fruit.

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#1391926 - 01/11/2016 10:40 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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And another frost this morning, was 3c at 1.30 so I put the sprinklers on, didn't get below zero here (though it did at the airport and got to -1 at orange). This has been an unusual spring with lots of cold fronts and rain events, lots of light frosts but rarely getting below zero in Bathurst and usually only for a short time. I hope that is the last frost, nothing forecast for the next week.

There was a big plume of mist rising from my new dam near the orchard and vineyard. By this late stage the water has warmed up a fair bit which provides a lot of energy to disrupt the airflow and stop frosts getting too bad. The frosts have been worse in areas of open paddock. I don't think the frost this morning did very much damage, though it sometimes takes a few days to show with apples.

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#1391928 - 01/11/2016 10:49 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Certainly fresh - Ag Station says a rounded -1 there.

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#1391934 - 01/11/2016 11:53 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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That is pretty cold for the time of year,but yesterday was a cold day and a clear still night. I think it probably only dipped down below zero for a little while, sometimes in spring it gets down to zero around midnight and that is when you get a lot of damage.


Edited by greg.l (01/11/2016 11:53)

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#1392269 - 05/11/2016 18:43 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Tonight it is forecast to get down to 4 degrees, 6 on the frost potential forecast. To me it feels like there might be a frost, it has been a cool day and looks like a clear still night. I will be up to check in the middle of the night.

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#1392515 - 08/11/2016 14:49 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Should be right from now onwards smile

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#1392877 - 10/11/2016 12:14 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Monday the predicted max is 14, so we might get one last frost tuesday morning. I bet someone somewhere gets a bit of frost, hopefully not me.

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#1392896 - 10/11/2016 15:25 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Could be gi, with forecast mins early next week in the 3-4deg range, although it will be windy. The setup on current charts with the way the low tracks east from Bass St looks eerily similar to the infamous one that smashed the Sydney-Bart race a few years back.
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#1395093 - 30/11/2016 10:47 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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I will make a bold call that our last frost for the season was last Saturday (November 26th). It was -2C on the roof of my car, with enough hoar frost to 'glue' the thermometer to the roof. The frost covered extensive areas of shorter grass. Fortunately the only casualty was a Japanese maple, which had its newly emerged leaves burnt. The frost on November 1st was much worse, damaging shoots on our walnuts.

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#1395241 - 01/12/2016 09:40 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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I would imagine your bold call should be correct unless something quite bizarre occurs. smile

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#1395296 - 01/12/2016 14:56 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Back online now, my phone line fried by lightning. Not all storms are good, 3 weeks to get the damage fixed. I had a run of low temperatures from last friday, 4C minimums for a few nights, but it is too late for frost now, though I have seen light frost in January.

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#1395465 - 02/12/2016 11:47 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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One thing we know is that anything is possible, ie out of season frost.

Historical low for Bx Ag Station seems to be 1.8 for January.

We all know though that there are locations around here that get colder at times than town of course.

Glad you're back on line. smile

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#1396777 - 10/12/2016 17:20 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Last night it got below 2 degrees at Orange AP, that counts as a frost for me. Only got down to 5 at my place,4 at Bathurst AP which is fairly cold for december.

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#1397682 - 19/12/2016 11:51 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Well I was wrong thinking our last frost was Nov 26th, we had another one early Sunday morning (December 18th). Low was 2.5C with frozen dew on the car roof and patchy light frost over the grass. Luckily it didn't damage my veges, which are on a bit of rising ground.

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#1397685 - 19/12/2016 12:23 Re: Frost season 2016 [Re: greg.l]
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Gee how close was that!!!

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