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#1392042 - 02/11/2016 13:10 2016/2017 Bushfire season
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Hello everyone!

Just got back home from Uni today and finally got back on WZ. With yesterday being what would normally be start of the bushfire season I thought I would set this thread up for when its needed and to post the season forecast. Last years thread was already 2 months old by this time last year shows how much better the conditions are. Things do appear to be warming up in the coming weeks in the north of the state looking at the models.

Will post weekly updates for grassland curing when i remember

2016/17 season forecast




Latest Grass Curing






Lets hope it stays a quiet season and this thread can stay unused!
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#1392089 - 03/11/2016 07:21 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thanks dude smile

Hard to believe it's November already, certainly doesn't feel like it!
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#1392096 - 03/11/2016 09:21 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thanks for the thread logansi, good work and hope Uni. returned a good year for your efforts grin
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J-173mm F-5mm M-66mm A-32.5mm M-24mm J-88mm J-143mm A-17.5mm S-89.5mm O-53.5mm Nov-61.5mm Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm Feb-23mm March-49mm April-40mm May-12mm June-12mm July-15mm Aug 19mm to 0900 18th.

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#1392112 - 03/11/2016 13:01 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thanks, as the High Pressure is working hard keep warm to hot out of Victoria and Victoria will be heavy project backburn as grass not dry yet.

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#1392118 - 03/11/2016 16:53 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Potentially severe day coming up for Saturday across NE NSW, still time to change but starting to look locked in. Not the extreme days you see down in Vic but getting up there for this part of the world.
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#1392173 - 04/11/2016 14:57 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thanks for the WB guys smile.

Today has seen 2 stations (Swan Hill and Mildura) hit severe FFDI for the first time this season, couple of central stations saw VH. Still to green for fire activity but the wind, warmth and low humidity will definitely start the grass curing and drying process.
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#1392412 - 07/11/2016 19:47 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Latest Grass Curing map for those interested:

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#1392463 - 08/11/2016 11:14 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The last week of moderate warmth and gusty winds have dried us off to a large extent, I wouldn't be surprised to see our country fully dried off by Christmas and then a wet January.
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#1392601 - 08/11/2016 18:30 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
The last week of moderate warmth and gusty winds have dried us off to a large extent, I wouldn't be surprised to see our country fully dried off by Christmas and then a wet January.


Yep the drying period has definitely begun, HELITACK 334 positioned to Sea Lake today so should be our first aircraft to come online for the season, things are being changed this season so interesting to follow where things get based.
Personally don't agree with the wet January, have a feeling the summer months are going to fall to at or below average after our wet winter/spring but lets hope so


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#1392615 - 08/11/2016 19:08 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Also to the above. 2 Fixed wing bombers will be based at Ouyen - first time for bombers being permanently based in the NW and first of any type for Ouyen - also coming online tomorrow.
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#1392622 - 08/11/2016 19:45 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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grin The wet Jan' is wishful thinking loganski.
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#1393830 - 15/11/2016 15:21 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This weeks grass curing update - bit more Yellow out there now. Some warmer temps this week should keep this spreading south.



'Malcolm"/ Helitack 341 is sitting at Essendon, waiting for season to progress a bit more before coming online. Amazing machine up close!

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#1393948 - 17/11/2016 16:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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First spike day and likely TFB going up for Monday the 21st with Severe for the Mallee, VH or high elsewhere





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#1394123 - 20/11/2016 16:11 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Tomorrow, Mon, 21 Nov 2016 has been declared a day of Total Fire Ban in the Mallee district(s) of Victoria.
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#1394153 - 21/11/2016 07:38 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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I heard that this year they are looking at including aircraft in the initial call when the FDI is past a certain point (maybe for hot day response?) To cut down the response time.

This weekend is going to dry us out.

I don't think we will have a wet Jan but I do think March and April will be wet, when the northern cyclone season comes to head but that is just a gut feeling at this stage.
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#1394155 - 21/11/2016 08:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Tomorrow, Mon, 21 Nov 2016 has been declared a day of Total Fire Ban in the Mallee district(s) of Victoria.


Checked Vic. WARNINGS SUMMARY, then the heading FIRE WEATHER WARNING which made reference to the Mallee Forecast District, gives a summary of conditions there today and says that today has "Severe Fire Danger" etc and C.F.A. advice re Bushfire Survival Plan etc.

No mention that today is in fact a DAY OF TOTAL FIRE BAN in the Mallee !

Seems to me that BOM would be able to easily add the T.F.B. advice in this fairly lengthy (twenty-one line) warning, wonder why they don't really.

edit...should add that as far as I can see, the TFB was issued about 5 hours before the Fire Weather Warning was.


Edited by samboz (21/11/2016 08:44)
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#1394156 - 21/11/2016 08:36 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The dispatch of aircraft on initial call, is known as Pre Determined Dispatch (PDD). It has been running across most of the state for a number of years, after being trialed in Bendigo in 2013. It was one of the recommendations from the Black Saturday royal commission. It occurs when the FDI is over 12.

It has been expanded this year, to cover all CFA areas, previously the outer Melbourne and Ballarat areas were not covered. As someone who has followed it for a number of years i think it has been a great success, many bad fires have occurred when PDD was not available due to multiple incidents.

For those interested aircraft can be tracked at this link: https://firewebext.ffm.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_home.htm (under current dispatch)


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#1394164 - 21/11/2016 10:09 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
The dispatch of aircraft on initial call, is known as Pre Determined Dispatch (PDD). It has been running across most of the state for a number of years, after being trialed in Bendigo in 2013. It was one of the recommendations from the Black Saturday royal commission. It occurs when the FDI is over 12.

It has been expanded this year, to cover all CFA areas, previously the outer Melbourne and Ballarat areas were not covered. As someone who has followed it for a number of years i think it has been a great success, many bad fires have occurred when PDD was not available due to multiple incidents.

For those interested aircraft can be tracked at this link: https://firewebext.ffm.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_home.htm (under current dispatch)


Awesome info.

I'm hoping to one day be involved in aircraft ops. I'm learning to fly at the moment with the big goal being a water bomber one day grin

agreee that PDD is a must. Even for the off chance that some of the reserves around even metro melbourne go up. there is a lot of people that could be impacted by bushfire like conditions that live in suburban melbourne and they aren't likely to have considered the risk.


Edited by Dawoodman (21/11/2016 10:11)
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#1394167 - 21/11/2016 10:23 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: Dawoodman]
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Originally Posted By: Dawoodman
Originally Posted By: logansi
The dispatch of aircraft on initial call, is known as Pre Determined Dispatch (PDD). It has been running across most of the state for a number of years, after being trialed in Bendigo in 2013. It was one of the recommendations from the Black Saturday royal commission. It occurs when the FDI is over 12.

It has been expanded this year, to cover all CFA areas, previously the outer Melbourne and Ballarat areas were not covered. As someone who has followed it for a number of years i think it has been a great success, many bad fires have occurred when PDD was not available due to multiple incidents.

For those interested aircraft can be tracked at this link: https://firewebext.ffm.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_home.htm (under current dispatch)


Awesome info.

I'm hoping to one day be involved in aircraft ops. I'm learning to fly at the moment with the big goal being a water bomber one day grin

agreee that PDD is a must. Even for the off chance that some of the reserves around even metro Melbourne go up. there is a lot of people that could be impacted by bushfire like conditions that live in suburban Melbourne and they aren't likely to have considered the risk.


Well, Well. Also a budding pilot here mate smile Currently in the middle of applying for the Regional Express cadetship. If that fails then will be just continuing at the local flying school.


Edited by logansi (21/11/2016 10:24)
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#1394183 - 21/11/2016 12:47 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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For Histories sake, Make tankers 15 on Swan Hill fire, 100 acres NYUC, 2 bombers and helitack responding - first aircraft deployment of 2016-17.


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#1394186 - 21/11/2016 13:01 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is for Castle Donnington, Goschen, Kunat, Lake Boga, Swan Hill.

There is a grassfire at Parsons Road that is not yet under control
This grassfire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards Bushy Road.
Firefighters have been unable to stop the fire and it has now crossed the Donald-Swan Hill Road and is moving towards Bushy Road and Back Boga Road.
This grassfire could impact the area between Goschen and Castle Donnington any time between now and 2:00pm today.


Edit:

Still NYUC - now 500 Acres


Edited by logansi (21/11/2016 13:03)
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#1394203 - 21/11/2016 14:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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40+ fire trucks, 3 helitacks and 2 Large Air Tankers (DC10 & C130) from Sydney have been deployed to the Swan Hill fire


Edited by logansi (21/11/2016 14:21)
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#1394233 - 21/11/2016 15:52 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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700 Hectare fire also going in the Big Desert - Bombers working
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#1394235 - 21/11/2016 15:56 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Can't be sure of accuracy but map on emergencyvic has the Parsons Rd. fire round 9km x 9km, ie 80sq km's.

Not a good way to start the fire season up that way.

Lightning yesterday/today ?, bldy N. wind gusting to 65kph at Swan Hill wouldn't be helping either.

Hope everyone stays safe.


Edited by samboz (21/11/2016 16:00)
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#1394237 - 21/11/2016 16:03 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Parsons Rd fire was first reported as a header fire spreading. Big Desert fire, was lightning today - can even see specific strike on WZ

Also here is today's grass curing map. Shows that most areas North of the decide are now mostly dried out. Still a dry week this week for those that miss the rain with lots of sunshine.




Edited by logansi (21/11/2016 16:03)
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#1394240 - 21/11/2016 16:06 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Pls check PM's Loganski...
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Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm Feb-23mm March-49mm April-40mm May-12mm June-12mm July-15mm Aug 19mm to 0900 18th.

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#1394290 - 21/11/2016 20:33 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Can't be sure of accuracy but map on emergencyvic has the Parsons Rd. fire round 9km x 9km, ie 80sq km's.


To clarify, I had it wrong - the area on the emergencyvic map this arvo' was possible impact area and not the area burnt, the actual area burnt is reported to be 322Hec. on the e/vic site tonight.
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Rain 2016 - 753.5mm.
J-173mm F-5mm M-66mm A-32.5mm M-24mm J-88mm J-143mm A-17.5mm S-89.5mm O-53.5mm Nov-61.5mm Dec - 26mm TOTAL 2016 - 779.5MM
Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm Feb-23mm March-49mm April-40mm May-12mm June-12mm July-15mm Aug 19mm to 0900 18th.

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#1394295 - 21/11/2016 20:55 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Originally Posted By: samboz
Can't be sure of accuracy but map on emergencyvic has the Parsons Rd. fire round 9km x 9km, ie 80sq km's.


To clarify, I had it wrong - the area on the emergencyvic map this arvo' was possible impact area and not the area burnt, the actual area burnt is reported to be 322Hec. on the e/vic site tonight.


Yeah sorry meant to add that to my reply.

Also 1 tanker was destroyed in the fire, lot of lost wheat crop but no structures damaged.
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#1394298 - 21/11/2016 21:15 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Given wind speed, ambient temp and dry fuel it was an amazing outcome, well done to services smile
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Rain 2017. Jan-9.5mm Feb-23mm March-49mm April-40mm May-12mm June-12mm July-15mm Aug 19mm to 0900 18th.

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#1394303 - 21/11/2016 21:59 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Here is a couple of photos of the Big Desert fire - from Facebook Delwp. Shows a great indication of the effect of the SW windchange. Now 1000ha and still going.





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#1394864 - 28/11/2016 14:13 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Things continuing to dry out around the state and with plenty of sunshine over the next week this will continue. We are about a month behind last year and if it stays that way come Christmas week most areas will be in the 90% cured range or above



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#1395032 - 29/11/2016 18:40 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Aircraft fleet has increased quite a bit today with Birddogs (ops planes) brought online at Ballarat, Stawell and Albury, 4 Bombers in Stawell and Helitack in Mansfield.
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#1395637 - 03/12/2016 16:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Tomorrow, Sun, 4 Dec 2016 has been declared a day of Total Fire Ban in the Mallee district(s) of Victoria.

Severe Fire Danger in Mallee, Very High in Wimmera and North Central, High elsewhere.


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#1395707 - 03/12/2016 18:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Great work Logansi - thanks.

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#1396012 - 05/12/2016 17:24 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Latest Grass Curing Index below. Most of the drying out this week has been in central areas. Also no areas now at 0% curing so drying out process has started state wide.

Next Spike day is this Thursday, with Severe FDI and TFB likely for the Mallee again (Maybe pushing into Wimmera if conditions worsen just slightly)



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#1396289 - 07/12/2016 18:32 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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No TFB tommorrow FDI at Very High before the rain arrives. Plenty of small fires in the North East today, aircraft being sent to a number of them.
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#1396684 - 09/12/2016 21:00 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Next Spike Day will be Tuesday the 12th, at the moment Forecast is Severe for both Mallee and Wimmera but also very close to severe in North Central and Northern Country, Mallee may also go extreme.
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#1396951 - 12/12/2016 16:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Severe FDI tomorrow for Wimmera, Mallee, Northern Country and North East - at this stage TFB only showing in Mallee, Wimmera and Northern Country
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#1396955 - 12/12/2016 16:32 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Also 30 trucks working on the Indigo Valley - Long Gully Rd fire.

10 requested for a crop fire Patchewollock-Tempy Road, Patchewollock
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#1396971 - 12/12/2016 18:25 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Smoke showing on radar and 40 trucks on Meredith fire.
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#1397070 - 13/12/2016 13:07 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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1PM update

No major fire activity state wide, although unit are still monitoring Indigo Valley and Meredith fire from yesterday.

FFDI's have reached Severe throughout Mallee and Wimmera along with parts of Northern Country and North East. Swan Hill also showing an extreme FFDI of 86.


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#1397106 - 13/12/2016 17:59 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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We seemed to have got through today will no major incidents, there we some very high fire dangers out their so very lucky.

The last 2 days would have really dried out those southern areas which are still drying out.
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#1397187 - 14/12/2016 11:02 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Missed the Grass curing map this week so here it is.



Also our air fleet has recieved a big boost this week with the Large Air Tankers (Avalon) and 1 of the skycranes coming online (Essendon) along with aircraft at Ballarat, Casterton, Colac, Heyfield, Moorabbin and Benambra

Here is a photo from EMV of our headline aircaft



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#1397328 - 15/12/2016 16:43 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 20 and airsupport working RAINBOW fire
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#1397332 - 15/12/2016 16:57 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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above fire now under control - reported as "over 200ha"


Edited by logansi (15/12/2016 16:57)
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#1397470 - 17/12/2016 16:31 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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2 fires of interest right now

STURT HWY MURRAY-SUNSET: 1km long, 1km wide - aircraft responding and make tankers 10

KONAGADERRA RD OAKLANDS JUNCTION: Air support responding and slip-on strike team due to access
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#1397472 - 17/12/2016 16:43 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Also JUNG NORTH RD JUNG fire now developing rapidly, in crop - reports from multiple fire towers.
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#1397479 - 17/12/2016 17:28 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Large Air Tankers - from Avalon about to be deployed to Murray Sunset fire - first deployment of the season.
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#1397570 - 18/12/2016 15:30 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thanks for the information Logansi. It is much appreciated and will be very useful going forward into the much hotter summer weather.

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#1397624 - 18/12/2016 20:36 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Really hope this fire season is quiet, but there is so much fuel around that is drying out so quickly it's crazy!!
Heard Craig laspley say that they have got bugger all of there back burning schedule completed this year which is not good new(been to wet to access certain areas and now drying out to quickly)

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#1397768 - 19/12/2016 22:47 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Latest Grass Curing map - very dry out there now, first big test this week over the Christmas period likely. Hopeful it ends as the models currently show with some big falls as high as 50mm mid next week.



Edited by logansi (19/12/2016 22:48)
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#1397818 - 20/12/2016 13:32 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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A number of fires have started overnight and this morning due to lightning, most in private land in North East/Central and a few in Gippsland.

Aircraft are currently working on 3 fires, HUGGETTS - HUGGETTS TRACK (North of Heyfield), BULLUMWALL - MERRIJIG TRACK (north of Bairnsdale and in the STRATHBOGIE STATE FOREST near Mansfield. Rappel teams are working the Huggetts and Bullumwall fires.

Still a chance of new fires popping up as smoldering trees catch fire when the sun comes out.
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#1397833 - 20/12/2016 16:34 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Large Air Tankers have completed a drop on the TAMBO CROSSING fire. Aircraft still working Huggetts and Bullumwall fires.
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#1397872 - 20/12/2016 19:59 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Hi Logansi.

Seems there was a way to see all fire-fighting aircraft deployments and routes (on one of the emergency maps?) but either I've forgotten how to see them or they're not publicly available any more. Can you (or anyone else) enlighten me?

Cheers, Bob

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#1397873 - 20/12/2016 20:05 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
logansi Offline
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http://www.incidentalert.com.au/iav4/vemapv2.asp provides tracker on a fire map

Official data page

https://firewebext.ffm.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_home.htm


Also a number of the fixed wing aircraft including the LATS (Bombers 390/391 and there lead aircraft Birdog 376) are showing up on Flightradar24 and other trackers this year.


Edited by logansi (20/12/2016 20:06)
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#1397886 - 20/12/2016 21:09 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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They're the ones! Many thanks Logansi.

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#1397889 - 20/12/2016 21:12 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
logansi Offline
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No Problem, the official link you had would have changed when DELWP changed to Forest Fire Management
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#1398358 - 23/12/2016 18:47 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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First fire (about 10k east of Briagalong) noted from storm running SSE btw Stratford and Bairnsdale. Expect several more from it and the one around Tambo Crossing btw now and night and for more to pop up in the morning.

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#1398359 - 23/12/2016 18:48 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Briagalong fire reported to be only 1x2m in grass but yeah would be surprised if some more stuff pops up.
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#1398360 - 23/12/2016 19:02 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Loc: Between Maffra & the Mountains...
Noticed a lightning strike over that way, part of the band of stormy stuff, some big tall old Pine trees just at that house where it's marked on the emergency vic site.

Can hear rumbling from home but as per radar it's all to our N/E and E.

Plenty of long dry grass round the district.

edit....I wouldn't be surprised if some more CG strikes lit up grin


Edited by samboz (23/12/2016 19:03)
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#1398382 - 23/12/2016 22:01 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Recon flights planned for morning, also storms up in the north west have started 2 fires just south of the Wyperfield National park, I wouldn't be surprised if there a few fires in the park which may go undetected until morning with temps still in the high 20's, low 30s up there.


Edited by logansi (23/12/2016 22:03)
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#1398458 - 24/12/2016 15:46 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Number of fires across the state with aircraft working.

Also a make tankers 15 at BRIDGEWATER-DUNOLLY RD BRIDGEWATER
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#1398460 - 24/12/2016 15:51 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Watch & Act message
Arnold, Arnold West, Bridgewater, Bridgewater On Loddon, Inglewood, Laanecoorie, Llanelly, Murphys Creek, Newbridge, Tarnagulla, Woodstock West, Eddington, Dunolly.

There is a grassfire at BRIDGEWATER-DUNOLLY RD, BRIDGEWATER that is not yet under control
This grassfire is travelling in a southerly direction towards Newbridge.
Don't wait, leaving now is the safest option - conditions may change and get worse very quickly. Emergency Services may not be able to help you if you decide to stay.
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#1398472 - 24/12/2016 17:34 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Tankers 20 on Tarletons Rd, Plumpton fire, Skycrane responding
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#1398474 - 24/12/2016 17:43 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is being issued for Plumpton.

There is a grassfire at TARLETONS RD, PLUMPTON that is not yet under control
This grassfire is travelling in a southerly direction towards Beattys Road.

If your home is surrounded by grasslands, and you are not in an estate, you should immediately shelter within your home. It is not safe for you to leave.
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#1398551 - 24/12/2016 22:14 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Still 2 fires going up in the high country tonight, both around Snowy Bluff/Arbuckle - 3 helitacks and rappelers have been up today and will back tomorrow - very remote country. Still a risk of more fires popping up and new strikes over the coming days.

Very warm tomorrow, FDI's getting into the Very Highs, a very Merry Christmas to everyone here on WZ and lets hope its a fire free day for our CFA and FFV crews smile
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#1398613 - 25/12/2016 13:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Something going on out at Woomelang... just had another 7 trucks paged..... make tankers 15? the day starts grin
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#1398621 - 25/12/2016 15:11 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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http://incidentalert.com.au/iav4/veMapv2.asp

Shows heavy aircraft deployment on Woomelang fire


Edited by ThunderBob (25/12/2016 15:13)

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#1398650 - 25/12/2016 19:30 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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2 very large crop/stubble fires in Victorias North West today, both the Watchem and Woomelang fires burnt close to 2000ha each. Woomelang fire has almost an 8km run.
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#1398737 - 26/12/2016 10:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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2 fires going this morning, aircraft working both.

2 Helitacks, 2 bombers and 1 birddog on GELANTIPY - CAMPBELLS KNOB fire

1 helitack and 1 firebird on ENSAY - KELTY LOOKOUT fire
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#1399045 - 28/12/2016 08:44 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Very large 1200ha crop and grass fire overnight at Ultima, near Lake Boga, largest fire I have seen run at 3am, but that what lows of 30c and 55kmh winds can do.
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#1399077 - 28/12/2016 11:49 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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ULTIMA fire flared up, winds gusting to 70kmh in the Mallee, aircraft requested, Strike teams responding.

This Watch & Act message is for Goschen, Meatian, Ultima, Ultima East.

There is a grassfire at LAKE BOGA-ULTIMA RD, ULTIMA EAST that is not yet under control
This grassfire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards Lalbert Distric


Edited by logansi (28/12/2016 11:50)
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#1399084 - 28/12/2016 12:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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6 Strike Teams, 2 Helitacks and 2 Large Air Tankers responding to Ultima fire
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#1399089 - 28/12/2016 12:47 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is for Bael Bael, Beauchamp, Budgerum, Budgerum East, Cannie, Cokum, Dingwall, Fairley, Goschen, Kalpienung, Korrak Korrak, Kunat, Lake Charm, Lalbert, Lalbert Road, Meatian, Murnungin, Myall, Mystic Park, Normanville, Pine View, Quambatook, Sandhill Lake, Tittybong, Towaninny, Tresco West, Ultima, Ultima East, Wandella, Wangie.

There is a grassfire at LAKE BOGA-ULTIMA RD, ULTIMA EAST that is not yet under control
This grassfire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards Lalbert District.
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#1399105 - 28/12/2016 15:27 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 15 PADDINGTON AV CARRUM DOWNS, Airsupport responding



Edited by logansi (28/12/2016 15:34)
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#1399108 - 28/12/2016 15:37 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is being issued for Carrum Downs.

There is a bushfire at PADDINGTON AV, CARRUM DOWNS that is not yet under control.
This warning replaces the previous Advice Message issued
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#1399504 - 30/12/2016 16:56 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 20 at CALDER HWY DERBY, airsupport responding
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#1399767 - 01/01/2017 13:14 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 20 on GENTLE RD TANGAMBALANGA fire, Emergency warning requested and additional airsupport to that currently on route.
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#1399771 - 01/01/2017 13:33 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This Emergency Warning is being issued for Kiewa, Tangambalanga, Red Bluff.

There is a bushfire at GENTLE RD, TANGAMBALANGA that is out of control.
The bushfire is travelling in a north-easterly direction towards Tangambalanga and Red Bluff.
This bushfire could impact Tangambalanga any time between 1:30 and 2:00.
You are in danger, act now to protect yourself. It is too late to leave. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately.
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#1400360 - 03/01/2017 17:59 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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LINTONS LANE GLENHOPE is a make tankers 30
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#1400986 - 07/01/2017 11:50 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 15 PIETSCH RD BANGERANG - Air support responding
Make tankers 10 BORUNG HWY CARRON - air support requested.

Fires are about 10-15km apart.


Edited by logansi (07/01/2017 11:50)
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#1400992 - 07/01/2017 13:06 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
logansi Offline
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New start up in the Otways - around BIG HILL TRK/DEANS MARSH-LORNE RD BENWERRIN. Ground crews struggling to find it but airsupport reports they can see large column of smoke building rapidly.
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#1401016 - 07/01/2017 18:00 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Had our first local fire this arvo out between Maffra and Briagalong.

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#1401551 - 11/01/2017 17:48 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Wind speeds for Friday not looking to good around the state
For potential fire break outs

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#1401940 - 13/01/2017 17:22 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
logansi Offline
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Tuesday is going to be our biggest spike day of the season. At this stage Severe for Mallee, North Central, Central and West & South Gippsland - Very High elsewhere.
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#1401966 - 13/01/2017 18:42 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Even after today's 8mm we still going
For severe fire danger?? Lol
Does look nasty logansi

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#1402004 - 13/01/2017 21:28 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The first 5mm is said to have no effect on Fire Dangers although it may drop the FDI's slightly given some windy conditions over the weekend and a warm Monday most of it will have dried off.
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#1402040 - 14/01/2017 08:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Ah ok thanks logansi that's one of many things
I didn't realise 😀
So really u need to get at least 15-20mm to have any
Real sustained effect on slowing fire conditions down?

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#1402514 - 16/01/2017 09:57 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
ThunderBob Offline
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I traveled Bairnsdale/Geelong return over the weekend. Seemed to me that, just from Sat morning to Sunday arvo much of that country saw significant drying/grass curing (but maybe I was just imagining it.) That said, the curing is not too bad for mid-January.

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#1402821 - 18/01/2017 11:45 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Good to see we got through yesterdays with no major fires smile

A large number of our aircraft including both Skycranes and both LATS have been moved to Albury today to be on standby for a large fire near Canberra - CFA strike teams have also been deployed.


Edited by logansi (18/01/2017 11:46)
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#1402870 - 18/01/2017 14:23 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Yeah good result yesterday,although
We are probably only just really entering
The serious part of the fire season now??
From now until end of feb?

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#1403770 - 23/01/2017 22:07 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Loc: traf/moe south 410m asl/west &...
With this current change being
Pretty much a dry one and with the
Next 7 days up near 30c or above, this fire
Season might just start to go to
Next level!!!😨

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#1403775 - 23/01/2017 22:50 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: doogasnow]
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Originally Posted By: doogasnow
With this current change being
Pretty much a dry one and with the
Next 7 days up near 30c or above, this fire
Season might just start to go to
Next level!!!😨



Agreed, Doogasnow. And,if you look at the models (7 days out of course) one's able to imagine Mon 30/1 being a fairly extreme day. It's not there completely in the models but looks like severe heat (45C+) in south-western NSW needing only a tightening of the situation to bring it down across Vic taking what (on current modelling) is hot and fairly windy in NW, central, NE and Gipps into dangerous territory.

And, as you say, there's a drying occurring over the week leading up to that

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#1403815 - 24/01/2017 11:36 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Here in SE South Australia these pesky southerlies adding the lil bit of rain has started greening paddocks up but its still pretty dry around the place i might hold you to your statement dogasnow as we still have February/March to go yet

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#1403900 - 24/01/2017 17:55 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Loc: traf/moe south 410m asl/west &...
Yeah thunder bob, next Monday looks
Like definitely a little spike day!!
And with the length of warm days leading
Up to the spike day it will just about be
A tender box around Gippsland(and the whole
Of vic for that matter)

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#1403904 - 24/01/2017 18:00 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: rstewart84]
doogasnow Offline
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Loc: traf/moe south 410m asl/west &...
Yeah, I always keep an eye on what's happening
In s.a and u guys have been doing pretty
Well for rainfall 😀, similar to us keep getting
Little top ups,there isn't much green left
Around us now and it's concerning we are
A fair way down on our average rain for
January and can't really see anything
Substantial for the rest of this month.

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#1403933 - 24/01/2017 22:08 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
ThunderBob Offline
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The saving grace concerning Mon 30th is, on present forecast, only moderate winds.

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#1404217 - 27/01/2017 16:42 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
doogasnow Offline
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Looks like our first bad spike day of
The fire season up here!! With temps pushing
40c and wind plus a rating at this stage
Of severe for most of vic, with extreme rating
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#1404340 - 28/01/2017 17:40 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Edited by logansi (28/01/2017 17:40)
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#1404342 - 28/01/2017 17:46 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi


That is unfortunate Logansi. Several cars also, apparently.

FDIs have edged back marginally for Monday: the Extreme rating for the Wimmera down to Severe along with most of the rest of the State (except EG which is rated VH). The lower rating is based, I think, on the wind forecast for the Wimmera (and also for the western Central region) going down a notch or two.

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#1404349 - 28/01/2017 19:20 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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It's also the earlier wind change, by about an hour, meaning peak head in the west will be lower.
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#1404385 - 29/01/2017 11:20 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: doogasnow]
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That is very true doogasnow unfortunately it doesn't feel like summer here in SA or even in Victoria as i mentioned previously the pesky southerlies are sending all our heat to NSW before it even gets given a chance to affect our 2 states

Unless by some miracle Mother Nature hears our pleas for a change in weather conditions we might as well start bringing forward fire season closure dates earlier than normal


Edited by rstewart84 (29/01/2017 11:20)

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#1404430 - 29/01/2017 16:39 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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State wide Total Fire Ban Tomorrow, Extreme in the North East, Very High in the South West and Severe elsewhere. Lucky no dry lightning recently or tomorrow, a few patches of Extreme in the high country which is not very common. Stay safe.
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#1404432 - 29/01/2017 16:56 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Spot on logansi, first real spike day were
It has all the ingredients to potentially
Be fairly severe!😨

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#1405272 - 04/02/2017 12:03 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Make tankers 20 - Slipons 8 BULLA-DIGGERS REST RD DIGGERS REST

Numerous calls coming in reporting property under threat, also calls for smoke.
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#1405284 - 04/02/2017 13:26 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Emergency warning now
For the diggers rest fire 😨

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#1405285 - 04/02/2017 13:34 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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7 news live stream.

https://www.facebook.com/7NewsMelbourne/videos/10155089854174301/

Reports property damaged.

9 Aircraft now working this fire
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#1405954 - 07/02/2017 19:24 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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So now all the rain had gone and we are in
For some hot days, what sort of fire
Weather should we expect? Especially
Thursday looks pretty bad?
We had pretty much 20mm
Of rain around my area and after 34c tommoz
Things might be dry enough by Thursday
To cause concerns?

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#1408205 - 17/02/2017 18:57 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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We are getting close to "getting out of this season"??

Cool(ish) outlook for next 10 days bar a warm Wednesday (but only low 30's with not too much wind) next week??

..... touch wood

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#1408214 - 17/02/2017 19:45 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Quite right P, if we could get 5-10mm soon it would bail us out!
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#1408216 - 17/02/2017 19:49 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yeah spot on Petros/ samboz this change coming
Sunday into Monday has now us getting
1/2" 😀 If we get this then I reckon were
Home regarding fire risk around my area!

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#1408242 - 17/02/2017 22:02 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Nice cool to cold nights until Wednesday as people want camping fires make sure put it out as surface still dry grass and strong winds can start fires, no matter if cold air.

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#1409023 - 21/02/2017 16:14 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Tomorrow, Wed, 22 Feb 2017 has been declared a day of Total Fire Ban in the Mallee, Wimmera, South West, Northern Country, North Central and Central (includes Melbourne and Geelong) district(s) of Victoria.

Extreme for Wimmera, Severe for all others except East and West & South Gippsland
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#1409056 - 21/02/2017 19:58 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Light winds will be a saviour in Gippsland tomorrow. Parts of the Wimmera, eastern parts of Western Vic and parts of Central, however, will have a period (mid-late arvo) of quite fresh NWly.

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#1409061 - 21/02/2017 20:25 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Also a TFB (Severe Fire Danger) for Northeast Victoria (including Benalla, Wangaratta, Albury/Wodonga and Corryong) tomorrow.

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#1409073 - 21/02/2017 21:39 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: aussiestormfreak]
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Originally Posted By: aussiestormfreak
Also a TFB (Severe Fire Danger) for Northeast Victoria (including Benalla, Wangaratta, Albury/Wodonga and Corryong) tomorrow.


Actually no TFB in the North East for some strange reason

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/total-fire-bans-and-ratings/
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#1409075 - 21/02/2017 21:46 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Originally Posted By: aussiestormfreak
Also a TFB (Severe Fire Danger) for Northeast Victoria (including Benalla, Wangaratta, Albury/Wodonga and Corryong) tomorrow.


Actually no TFB in the North East for some strange reason

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/total-fire-bans-and-ratings/


That IS strange, all the more as the BOM's fire warnings seem different to that displayed on the CFA website! And yet the BOM's fire warnings for Victoria should be based on those provided by the CFA, I'm confused! crazy

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/warnings/fire.shtml


Edited by aussiestormfreak (21/02/2017 21:47)

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#1409165 - 22/02/2017 20:59 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Surprising - and pleasing - lack of serious fires today - a day with conditions in much of the State which could have proved problematic. Conditions in my area were very pleasant - warm but little, if any, wind.

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#1409170 - 22/02/2017 21:52 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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asf - I contacted both CFA & BOM a last November, asked why the BOM didn't include days of TFB on their site.

The reply from the BOM was along these lines -

.........."Although rare, there may be times when one of these products is issued and not the other. A risk in identifying TFB status within our Fire Weather Warnings is that members of the community become accustomed to obtaining this information from the Bureau. In instances when a TFB is declared but no Fire Weather Warning is current this could lead to members of the community being unaware of the issuing of the TFB. Similarly if a TFB is issued after our Fire Weather Warning has been disseminated then our warning may be carrying incorrect information regarding TFB status." ...........
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#1411854 - 12/03/2017 14:42 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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I didn't think I'd be posting on this site again
This season, but the is a watch and act
For a bushfire just north of dargo!!

I suppose the bush everywhere now is
Getting quiet dry again after little or
No rain for the past 3 weeks!!

I know around my area is dryer now than at
Any stage through summer, with this morning
Being the first drops of rain for 20 days!
And with more warmer and windy weather on
The way over the next few days were not out
Of trouble just yet!

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#1411856 - 12/03/2017 14:44 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Another indication of the dryness is the Lightning
To the north of us out around the Yarra Rangers
And noojee area sparked quiet a number of
Fires! Verses through summer they wernt really
Sparking any in those areas.

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#1411883 - 12/03/2017 17:54 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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same here, fire now 280ha reported by crews to be a blow out (all lines breached) - air crew now focused on smaller fire due west of Dargo. More aircraft in the sky today that most of summer, coming after some aircraft have gone home.
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#1411901 - 12/03/2017 20:18 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yeah, I've seen burn offs to the north of
Me around Erica area and can't believe
There even thinking about it!
It's quiet odd considering lack of rainfall
Over the last few weeks

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#1411969 - 13/03/2017 09:40 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Hotspot data from 2am, shows the extent of these 2 fires, aircraft already up this morning.

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#1411997 - 13/03/2017 12:52 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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additional airport now moving to these jobs, now 4 helitacks, 5 bombers and 3 Obs aircraft. Fires now moving in a NW direction. - Air Attack has mostly been focused on the southern fire today.


Edited by logansi (13/03/2017 12:53)
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#1412008 - 13/03/2017 14:04 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Thank you, Logansi, for keeping us informed re these two fires. I'm away atm but, in a worst case scenario, my place is in the firing line should they grow and move southeasterly.

Thankfully, I think it's too late in the season for massive growth and movement. Of course both Samboz and Petros' areas are also potentially affected. At their current size, though, I don't see them (particularly the Crooked River one) being contained without rain or extended cool, calm conditions.

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#1412040 - 13/03/2017 16:41 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yep likely to late in the season but its been a weird season so always good to stay aware. Large Air Tankers have been working the Crooked River fire this afternoon with 2 drops each out of Avalon. First fires of significant size in the high country in 2 seasons really.


Edited by logansi (13/03/2017 16:41)
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#1412072 - 13/03/2017 19:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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It must be pretty dry up through that whole
Area , as another new fire has started more
In a east north east direction than the current
Two and looks like it's taken off as well, with
It already at 80ha

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#1412192 - 14/03/2017 10:18 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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I believe the Wulgulmerang - Splitters Creek fire is a break out of the burn at the same location. frown
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#1412319 - 14/03/2017 16:41 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Update on Dargo fires



The two fires started by lightning strikes on Saturday night, north-west and south-west of Dargo are now 656 and just over 100 hectares respectively.

The fires are in steep, rocky country, with some areas not accessible by vehicles, so Forest Fire Management Victoria crews are using a combination of ground crews, dozers and aircraft to attack them directly and indirectly.

This combination is securing the western edge of the larger Crooked River-Wonnangatta Road fire, north-west of Dargo, with aircraft continuing to work on the south-eastern sector, which is too steep for any other form of suppression.

Fire behaviour on the smaller Waterford-McCarthy Spur West Track fire, south-west of Dargo has quietened and a lot of good work has been done on this fire today.

Crews have been constructing a hand trail on the south-eastern section, supported by some backburning and dozer work.

There's been some fire activity on the northern edge along McCarthys Spur and additional rakehoe lines have been put in here in areas unsuitable for dozers, with aircraft supporting to strengthen control lines.

Some more local roads and tracks have been closed to the public while the control lines are being constructed and people are advised not to enter any forest or park areas in the vicinity of these fires and to be alert to firefighting vehicles and personnel on other roads in the Dargo area.

Smoke will be visible from local communities and roads, and further afield, depending on prevailing winds and smoke drift.

https://www.facebook.com/DELWPGippsland/...?type=3&theater
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#1412367 - 14/03/2017 19:46 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The crooked river fire must have went for a bit of a run today,when
Looking at the size of the fire compared to yesterday!

Going off the forecast they all might grow a fair bit more
Tommoz and Thursday with wind and heat around.

Forecast of more storms is not good for Thursday for more
Possible new starts!!

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#1412369 - 14/03/2017 19:49 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The bigger fire area was burnt out a few years back, hopefully the fuel load is reduced from then.

Both fires in mongrel places to access as posted, this will keep the DEWLP(?) crews busy for a while but assisted by canny leadership to meet safety and fuel reduction goals isn't likely to threaten private property.

Hot days ahead don't help, shorter days do.

Todays visible smoke plume was a nice whitish/grey, it isn't burning hot.
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#1412550 - 15/03/2017 14:21 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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This fire at Wulgulmerang is putting up some smoke, visible on the radar, a big burn !!

"Planned Burn
10KM NW WULGULMERANG
Current status In Progress
Last updated Last Saturday at 11:43 AM
Size 3871 HA"

At home some smoke about from the Crooked River area, warming up @ 30C and a very light breeze.
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#1412643 - 15/03/2017 20:49 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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That burn has a few spots outside of the lines thus that 'bushfire' up there too

Smoke warning in place for communities around Sale and Bairnsdale

This Advice is being issued for poor air quality in Dargo, Bairnsdale, Sale and nearby communities, which may be unhealthy for sensitive people.

Smoke from a bushfire burning near Crooked River is currently affecting air quality in Dargo, Bairnsdale, Sale and nearby communities.
Smoke can affect people’s health. You should be aware of the impacts of smoke on you and your family’s health.
Smoke can aggravate existing heart and lung conditions and cause irritated eyes, coughing and wheezing.

Strong winds in the early hours of tomorrow morning however chance of a shower/storm in the afternoon.

Couple of photos from FFM today





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#1412687 - 16/03/2017 10:17 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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New fire near Erica, air craft being deployed and just went to watch and act.

This Watch & Act message is being issued for Caringal, Collins Siding, Erica, Moondarra, Telbit Crossing, Watson, Tyers Junction, Jacob Creek, Western Tyers, Rawson.

There is a bushfire at Morgans Mill that is not yet under control.
The bushfire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards Caringal and Tanjil Bran road.
This warning replaces the Advice message issued at 8:40 this morning.
Firefighters are responding to the fire.
a wind change is expected within the next 2 hours that may change the direction of the fire.


Air Craft are now very stretched across the east of the state. Hopefully the rain about to hit this area hits the ground.

The Crooked River has now reached 1400ha, and additional 400ha yesterday afternoon and overnight. FFM update states:

At the Crooked River fire, 19 kilometres north-west of Dargo, the situation remains dynamic, but the south-western flank is being held.

This fire is expected to spread to the north, south and east and will probably cross Billy Goat Bluff track to the east at some stage today.

The forecast south-west wind change this afternoon will increase fire behaviour on the north-eastern edge of the McCarthy Spur fire and the south-eastern edge of the Crooked River fire, so our focus will be on those areas.


Edited by logansi (16/03/2017 10:18)
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#1412691 - 16/03/2017 10:58 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Rawson fire spreading quickly, now 30ha
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#1412706 - 16/03/2017 11:56 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yeah can clearly see the raw son fire from
We're I am at yallourn

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#1412707 - 16/03/2017 12:02 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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The rainy front might impact it with some luck, just started light rain here which is about 50km east of Rawson.

Doesn't look to be much so far as it approaches here.

edit...meant to thank you for the excellent pics throughout the thread loganski, thanks !


Edited by samboz (16/03/2017 12:04)
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#1412783 - 16/03/2017 17:28 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yeah your right samboz the rain we got
Would have had zero effect on those fires 😨
0.4mm was the most recorded around here
At Warragul/nilma!!

Interesting to see weather or not they
Can get on top of the Erica raw son
Fire before the warmer weather returns

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#1412785 - 16/03/2017 17:40 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Seems to be calming down a bit, watch and act removed and aircraft have been on the ground at LTV for the last hour or so.
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#1412987 - 17/03/2017 17:27 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Evening Update: 17/03/17

Erica fire now contained, aircraft did a few drops this morning but now released. Notice on line scan fire had spotted to the SE, likely prior to wind change and drizzle.



Major focus today on the Crooked River Fire, now at 1633Ha, lot of smoke showing of visible satellite, number of helitacks and bombers working today, including the the RJ85 Large Air Tanker. Map is from Line Scan this morning has added about 150ha since then.





Waterford - Mccarthy Spur Track fire now almost 200ha with aircraft and crews continuing to work.



Wulgulmerang - Splitters Creek fire/burn still going with 2 helitacks and 4 bombers continuing to work today.



Photos from FFM

RJ85 (LAT) dropping a load onto the Crooked River fire this morning



View from Pinnacles Fire Lookout Tower





Edited by logansi (17/03/2017 17:27)
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#1413019 - 17/03/2017 19:23 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Superb info, maps and photos Logansi. Many thanks. If the upper limits of the progged rain for next week are met, then these fires will die "not with a bang, but with a wimper.". It low rainfall totals, they'll probably splutter on for a while but I doubt there'll be (thankfully) any serious blow-out.

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#1413103 - 18/03/2017 11:05 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: ThunderBob]
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Originally Posted By: ThunderBob
Superb info, maps and photos Logansi. Many thanks. If the upper limits of the progged rain for next week are met, then these fires will die "not with a bang, but with a wimper.". It low rainfall totals, they'll probably splutter on for a while but I doubt there'll be (thankfully) any serious blow-out.


Yep, once the weekend is over things start looking a bit better.

Crooker river fire continues to move most on the Northern and Eastern sides, back burning being conducted on the south side based on line scan. Aircraft up early today, bombers operating out of the snow range airstrip today, just 10km or so to the west

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#1413389 - 19/03/2017 14:21 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Crooked River fire seems to be flaring this afternoon. Smoke now showing up on radar along with being clearly visible on satellite. Currently 4 Helitacks, 4 bombers and 3 recon aircraft in the air, appears another Helitack may be heading that way too.
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#1413408 - 19/03/2017 16:05 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Crooked river fire has 'blown out' fire has dramatically increase in activity, spotting over containment lines has occurred. CFA stike teams from BRIAGOLONG Group now requested alongside additional air support

New Advice Message

This Advice message is being issued for Crooked River, Miowera, Moroka, Shepherdson.
There is a bushfire at 19KM NW DARGO that is not yet under control.
Fire activity has increased on the Northern Boundary.
The fire has crossed Billy Goat Bluff Track
Expect to see more fire-fighting vehicles in the area
There will be more smoke visible
The fire is approximately 2173ha in size and has a perimeter of 34km

Smoke on Visible Satelite has increase significantly since 2:30pm

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#1413415 - 19/03/2017 16:35 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Had a feeling it might get up and about
A bit today! Must be a bit of wind blowing
Up there ?
Hopefully a good wack of rain hits those
Fires over the next few days

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#1413420 - 19/03/2017 16:38 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yep hopeful this is its last run. Still a risk tomorrow is storms miss the fire sight, inflow and outflow winds can be erratic and push fires around rapidly.
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#1413427 - 19/03/2017 16:52 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Yeah spot on mate. Looking at gfs and
There's bugger all rain progged for around
The fire area tommoz so could be another
Day that it runs! Good point u make regarding
Storms around that area tommoz, unless there
Large storms incorporating heavy rain, then
The strong unstableness around them could
Be of concern

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#1413432 - 19/03/2017 17:01 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Main concern is any movement to the north or east, couple of isolated properties along the Wonnangatta Valley - Retardant bombing has been focused on that northern side all afternoon with the single engine air tankers I think.


Edited by logansi (19/03/2017 17:03)
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#1413472 - 19/03/2017 20:08 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Heap of farming properties/holiday houses on small acreage in the Wonnangatta River Valley, good rain this week will be answer to most of the current problems with any luck.

Dredged up this pic of the remnants of the old Pinnacles Fire Building, can't call it a tower really as it sat on the ground.

This pic also shows the burnt view towards Dargo from the tower site.

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#1413480 - 19/03/2017 20:49 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Just to add to the thread loganski, little bit of previous fire history of this area, both these were after the 2006/07 fire that started early Dec'2006.

Billy Goat area after a hot fire.

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#1413492 - 19/03/2017 22:19 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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Appeared from the aircraft tracker they were doing retardant drops around the current Pinnacles Fire late today.

Now listed at 2717ha, so at least at least a 700ha run this afternoon - by far the largest daily jump. No line scan update so far.

Hopefully rain arrives tomorrow.


Very lucky this wasn't 2 months ago (with same dryness) or this would have become a major fire with longer, warmer days. Hopefully it isn't an ominous warning for next season.


Edited by logansi (19/03/2017 22:20)
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#1413569 - 20/03/2017 13:16 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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No rain has impacted the fire area yet

fire Now moving to the North

his Advice message is being issued for Crooked River, Miowera, Moroka, Shepherdson.
There is a bushfire at 19KM NW DARGO that is not yet under control.
Fire activity has increased on the Northern Boundary.
The northern edge of the fire is now close to the Wonnangatta Road.
Expect to see fire-fighting vehicles and heavy machinery in the area.
There will be smoke visible in the area.
The fire is approximately 2369ha in size and has a perimeter of 37km

Couple of photos - I believe from Yesterday



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#1413577 - 20/03/2017 13:53 Re: 2016/2017 Bushfire season [Re: logansi]
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And my information is that they still haven't back burnt off the Wonnangatta Rd, oh well grin
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