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#1396120 - 06/12/2016 14:11 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: DaveM]
Homer Offline
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Cloud now much lower and darker - has all the feel of rain starting in the next half hour or so.

About 24 degrees


It's certainly dark here too Dave and has been for over an hour. I was sure we were in for some rain but as yet, nothing.
Currently 23.3 deg's and looking light dusk. Very heavy overcast and muggy.

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#1396123 - 06/12/2016 14:46 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Yes Homer, understand that. Even here after looking so good earlier, it's only been patchy and light.

May end up a fizzer yet. Maybe overnight rain with any luck.

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#1396125 - 06/12/2016 14:57 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: DaveM]
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Yes Homer, understand that. Even here after looking so good earlier, it's only been patchy and light.

May end up a fizzer yet. Maybe overnight rain with any luck.


Indeed.
This morning's forecast said between 4-15 mm's. I'd be happy with the 4!!
In saying that, it's just started raining, albeit, lightly.
Still very dark. Now only 22.7.

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#1396126 - 06/12/2016 14:59 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Sydney radar showing some nice echoes or is there a lot of virga?
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#1396128 - 06/12/2016 15:02 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Rain quickly increased again. Not heavy but at least persistent.

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#1396130 - 06/12/2016 15:30 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Sydney radar showing some nice echoes or is there a lot of virga?


Definitely not virga. I just went and picked up Bart from his last day at school and the rain was absolutely torrential for about 5 minutes. Local flash flooding/pools/puddles of water all over the roads. I'm sure the radar was actually under reading at that stage.

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#1396144 - 06/12/2016 17:14 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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It's been completely overcast with a couple of shafts of sun early this morning, although it just might have been a bit brighter without actual sun. If the Airport was just as gloomy, this will be the cloudiest day in nearly 3 months, the first day with under an hour's sunshine since September 18 (when zero).

We've had a some light showers here adding up to about 3 mm (Chatswood). A very poor return for a lost day of Summer sunshine. The temperature has been mostly stuck between 21-23 since about 10:00PM last night, so it was a warm, clammy night in spite of the Southerly. There's been very little wind.

The rain seems to be clearing the metro area for the time being.


Edited by Steve777 (06/12/2016 17:24)
Edit Reason: First sentence clarify. Very little wind.

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#1396145 - 06/12/2016 17:17 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Nice and dark here now, just got back from up the street where all street lights are on and now its just starting to lightly rain.

Storms look unlikely now, time to crack open an ale!!

Edit - Cracked open beer, two sips and I hear thunder!!


Edited by EddyG (06/12/2016 17:21)
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#1396146 - 06/12/2016 17:25 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Edit - Cracked open beer, two sips and I hear thunder!!


WOnder if that would work here? Might try later.

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#1396149 - 06/12/2016 17:41 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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It's a very soft day here. had some brief rain around 3pm, since then drizzle and 19 degrees. 5mm since 9am.

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#1396150 - 06/12/2016 17:59 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: menthurae]
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Originally Posted By: menthurae
Northern Beaches of Sydney.

Part of the reason I signed up was to ask a question of you guys and girls.

Do you feel that storm patterns have changed over the past few years (to decade I guess)?

When I was growing in the Hunter Valley up I remember having storms of much greater intensity that seemed to last quite a long time.

Since moving to the Northern Beaches around 2000 - I remember storms seeming to intensify just before hitting the area.

Are these just imprinted memories of significant storms or are storms really seeming to "peter out" much more quickly nowadays? I appreciate that there have been some significant events (i.e. tornadoes) in some areas of South Sydney that, to my recollection, haven't been seen before... but I thought I'd ask you weather aficionados what you think. grin


Welcome mate.

I'm in the Hunter Valley, in fact, right dead spank bang in the middle of it - a big hole of a place called Singleton (not referring to the town, just the big coal mines around the place).

I have been here since November 1993, and the day we had moved here we just unloaded the moving truck then massive storm hit. Back then if you had a hot and humid day, you generally got a storm. When we had the prolonged drought, there was a light show, but basically no rain with it.

I was in Singleton at work when it got thrashed with cricket ball plus size hail in Dec 1996. Has it been nearly 20 years now? I had the only car that was driveable in the carpark, as all the rest were smashed. A brand new Mazda 626, HQ Kingswood, VB Commodore, Nissan Exa and another car (I cannot remember what it was) all had smashed windows and were the body panels were pulverised and even the Exa had holes through its bonnet and front guard panels. I copped some panel damage on my car, broken wiper blade and a damaged blinker lens (which wasn't even in the direct line from the hail). But not a cracked window in sight.

Also, we had another storm in Dec 2009 where we copped 30 minutes of hail, actually it was two separate hail storms that had crossed over us, the first from the west, then a second that came over from the south. We have had hail hitting nearly half way up our front door where the door is nearly 2.5 metres back from the roof's edge. Yes, the hail with the force of the wind came in at about 30 degrees angle! No need for paint stripping, hail did that for us. We had hail up to 8 inches in spots in the back yard, and there was not a leaf on a trees, shrubs and the murraya's, but the only plants that took it well as the Japanese Buxus! Even the paddocks were mowed down!

As for storm patterns, I will say they have changed to some degree, but also the intensity of lightning strikes. Lightning is a lot more ferocious then in the past. But they too at times seem to be less time in length then they were previously, but also, we may get a several storms following one after another within a day.

My wife was born and raised in Singleton and grown up on the farm and her family used to even bale hay in the storms back when she was a young lass. There were usually good lightning strikes about the place, but as times have passed, she has noticed them being more violent. Our shed has been struck twice with lightning, a tree just about 100m from the shed , another tree had also been struck twice in a neighbouring paddock only 200m from where we live, as well as quiet a few lightning strikes on the ground that is within a 300 metres from our house and this is only in the last 10 years. And no, I haven't sued God as yet for destroying a few things at our place. But I may need the character that Billy Connolly portrayed, as well as the lawyer from The Castle, as it may be Constitutionally wrong and the vibe of it doesn't feel good.

I think we may need more records to specifically over time to see any patterns, but as Ben has said, we not sure whether it may be part of a cycle. Ben has most probably studied more then I (which I haven't done any), so I leave my experience to the experts.

But I have read that for every degree of warmer climate we get, there is an increase of 11% of more lightning strikes that planet receives, and that is also compounded. So if we get 4 degrees more on average, then there will be 50% lightning strikes then the base line.

So also having changing the environment, and I know even here in the Hunter Valley, there is a more likelihood of lightning strikes being generated more, as well as hotter days, as the surface temperature from the mines are generally much more hotter, as they are mainly being that of dust and rock, and not grass pastures and other vegetation as there had been previously. So whether the micro-climate from one area is affecting another area, may also need to be looked at as well.

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#1396158 - 06/12/2016 19:02 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777
Originally Posted By: EddyG
Edit - Cracked open beer, two sips and I hear thunder!!


WOnder if that would work here? Might try later.


You could try it!!

Just had a real good downpour, bit of thunder actually a couple of nice CGs. Had 13mm from that downpour and probably in just as many minutes too!!
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#1396159 - 06/12/2016 19:20 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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This humidity is quite something.

I still cannot fathom that we've only had a couple of dribs and drabs. How I'd like an actual trigger to make use of this humidity.

Edit: this mornings drizzle session cleared off after about an hour and a half or so and then just after lunch I noticed that the low level had cleared off but due to the high level cloud wasn't immediately obvious.


Edited by Perfect Storm (06/12/2016 19:24)
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#1396162 - 06/12/2016 20:06 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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The metro area is beset by Westerlies. Has been for a few hours.

On another topic, just caught a glimpse of the Cricket. Looks like a brilliant orange sky in Canberra, quite a sunset.


Edited by Steve777 (06/12/2016 20:09)

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#1396174 - 06/12/2016 21:26 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Cheers Homer re my trip away.

The humidity has been 100% for most of the day here about an hour and a half south of home. It got quite hot at around 6pm with 23C and 21 dp but shortly after a scumtherly came through taking the humidity back up to 100%. It's only 20 but it feels mild (rather than cool) because of the high humidity. And wow 36C predicted for Thursday!!

Steve, I saw a bit of orange here but I wish there wasn't full low cloud because we are on the bay and photo opportunities would've been great.


Edited by Wave Rider (06/12/2016 21:28)
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#1396180 - 06/12/2016 21:42 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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It did look like a nice sunset Steve777, no such sunset here.
Showers are coming through thick and fast now, nearly up to 20mm for today.
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#1396213 - 07/12/2016 07:11 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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More drizzle here overnight, got 8mm all up. We could use some more rain, the place is pretty dry now though there is still plenty of green grass and all our trees have been growing very well. The Eucalypts look very good with lots of fresh growth, though the yellow box aren't flowering at all. They were badly attacked by spitfire caterpillars last summer and many were defoliated. They have recovered well but it means no flowers this year, so no yellowbox honey.

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#1396225 - 07/12/2016 09:22 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Greg - you did better than here!! I would have liked more rain for sure.

Humidity was crazy high BUT obviously not the right trigger around to convert it into rain.

Tennis last night was pleasantly cool at about 18 or 19 degrees BUT what a sweat fest!!! Everyone was just dripping wet at such cool temps.

We had around 4 or 5mm it seems.

Pleasant overnight at about 11 degrees but heading for warmth again today & tomorrow.

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#1396228 - 07/12/2016 09:58 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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28.1mm in the 24 hours to 9am. Much cooler day today, might even get a couple more showers today as there are some fairly dark clouds about.


Edited by EddyG (07/12/2016 09:58)
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#1396234 - 07/12/2016 10:56 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Eddy - you stole my rain!!! smile

Full sunshine here, currently about 20 or 21 after an overnight of around 11 degrees.

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