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#1402516 - 16/01/2017 10:03 Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe
@_Yasified_shak Offline
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I was looking at Gumtree the other day when i stumbled apon, "Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe I will offer $10,000.00 to anyone who can prove to me using scientific evidence and factual reasoning that the Earth is a Globe. "

Hmm easy money! but no, the guy is just a fraud, any of the points you put to him are either a fraud, a NASA hoax or he just wont answer the question.

It got me thinking, i can't believe in this day and age that there are still people/groups/societies that still believe that the Earth is flat.



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#1402535 - 16/01/2017 12:47 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Someone once tried very hard to prove that the earth is round and collect a bet from a flat earther. Sighting through a telescope across several kilometers of water will clearly show curvature, however the flat earther had previously used a sighting close enough to the water for refraction to cancel out this curvature. A further experiment with refraction corrected for got bogged down with arguments about the telescope being properly levelled and not having the appropriate crosshair. This was fixed and the flat earth simply refused to pay.

Also the earth has been known to be round from ancient times with the first known calculation of the earth's size in 300bc. The earth was widely believed to be round before that date due to the observation that objects become visible over the horizon when sailing on water as if the water was curved.

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#1402624 - 17/01/2017 10:36 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: Mike Hauber]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Hauber
Also the earth has been known to be round from ancient times with the first known calculation of the earth's size in 300bc. The earth was widely believed to be round before that date due to the observation that objects become visible over the horizon when sailing on water as if the water was curved.


People have known way before 300BC knew that the earth was a round, or a ball/circle etc in shape. It was only about 300BC that Eratosthenes of Cyrene calculated the circumference of the earth.

But there are people on this planet who thinks this universe was created in just a week, and they live in the US! Then again, anything happens there.


Edited by J Pabo (17/01/2017 10:38)

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#1402626 - 17/01/2017 11:28 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: Mike Hauber]
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Apparently the Earth does not move and the sun rotates around the Earth,the sun also is only 3000ks/Miles in the sky (depending on where you live on this flat disc)
So how does the sun set at night? how does the sun dip below the horizon? how do we get the phases of the moon? how does the solar eclipse happen? how do the lunar eclipse happen? all points these conveniently get ignored.

One of their other main "points" is that "Surveyors, Engineers and Architects of monumental structures never have to account for 'curvature of the Earth' in their work."

I then kindly informed him about the Lucinda Jetty.....At 5.76 kilometres long, supported by more than 660 concrete and steel pylons, the jetty is nothing short of an engineering masterpiece with its length actually following the curved contour of the earth.
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#1402794 - 18/01/2017 09:31 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak


I then kindly informed him about the Lucinda Jetty.....At 5.76 kilometres long, supported by more than 660 concrete and steel pylons, the jetty is nothing short of an engineering masterpiece with its length actually following the curved contour of the earth.


Obviously subsidence at each end of the jetty.

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#1402844 - 18/01/2017 13:22 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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There's a few nutter pages about this on facebook. Talk about a pack of loons.
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#1403049 - 19/01/2017 16:41 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
J Pabo Offline
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One argument to put forth to a flat-earther:

Explain why are all the other planets, moons and suns are somewhat spheres and the earth is an exception to the rule?.

I get better arguments from people who believe that we are in the Matrix.


Edited by J Pabo (19/01/2017 16:42)

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#1403242 - 20/01/2017 09:52 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: J Pabo]
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I put that one forward to him J Pabo, and strangely enough it was ignored also.

Same as how do you explain the sky looks curved? if the Earth is flat how do we get Lava still flowing?
Why when you blow bubbles do they for into a sphere?

Gravity? (Fraud apparently)
Coriolis effect? (Fraud)
Satellite images? (NASA fakery)
Foucault Pendulum (Fraud)
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#1403352 - 20/01/2017 19:19 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Probably best to take a leaf out of Mark twain's book Dean...

“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

Guys like that probably have a cache of weapons in a bunker stocked with a 10 year supply of canned and dried food and think everything is a conspiracy theory.....no rational debate to be had..!

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#1403457 - 21/01/2017 12:17 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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If some of these nut jobs still believe the earth is flat, they would be doing us all a service if they could walk to the edge of it and fall off.

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#1403688 - 23/01/2017 12:09 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: Homer]
J Pabo Offline
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Originally Posted By: Homer
If some of these nut jobs still believe the earth is flat, they would be doing us all a service if they could walk to the edge of it and fall off.


ROFL!

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#1403690 - 23/01/2017 12:18 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
J Pabo Offline
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak


Gravity? (Fraud apparently)
Coriolis effect? (Fraud)
Satellite images? (NASA fakery)
Foucault Pendulum (Fraud)


Possible answers

Gravity - the earth sucks
Coriolis effect - makes their heads dizzy
Satellite images - camera lens is a circle
Foucault Pendulum - the magnetic pushing/pulling of the sun's magnetic waves

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#1403695 - 23/01/2017 12:31 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
Mike Hauber Offline
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Foucault Pendulum just proves the earth rotates, not that it is round? How could it be a fraud when it is such a simple experiment to run?

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#1403798 - 24/01/2017 08:50 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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The Earth is both flat or round depending on your perceptions and your needs. And whose to say it isn't more than round?

In fact it would be more accurate to describe the Earth as a sphere.



Edited by Locke (24/01/2017 08:54)
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#1411295 - 08/03/2017 09:12 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Well of course the earth is flat! The big conspiracy though is how NASA has made all the other planets, the moon and the Sun look round. How did they accomplish this? Simple, Galileo, the secret founder of NASA, designed the first telescope to be ROUND. He persuaded Sir Issac Newton to make his scope round as well and all telescopes since have been of this design.

There have been designs patented for Flat telescopes but big secret conglomerates buy up the patents and hide them. As long as the majority of people on Earth believe it is round they will pay exorbitant fees for internet and telephone access under the erroneous belief orbiting satellites are needed to send the signals.

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#1413026 - 17/03/2017 20:53 Re: Secret Exposed: The Earth is Flat and Stationary, not a Globe [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Someone told me that most flat earthers are just having a lend of us trying to see if they can convince people, sort of like a contest. The flat earth society is a place where most are trolls luring gullible people in to get their kicks.......not sure how true it is but it makes sense because surely that many people can't be brainwashed.

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