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#1405085 - 03/02/2017 01:08 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
Red Watch Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
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Loc: Cranbrook, Townsville
Originally Posted By: Mick10
the feasibility study examines whether the pipeline can be gravity feed or what is the best option, what other agricultural options are available and lastly whether building the entire dam is actually worth the funding. the commonwealth must have an updated study to ensure its money well spent.

re the stadium, i am not sure what the hooha is about the stadium vs water either Red Watch. people expect the city to come to a grinding halt just while we wait for water security.

This is an extract from this web page.
http://nqcc.org.au/2016/water-security-series-part2/
WHY WONT IT JUST RUN FROM HELLS GATE TO ROSS DAM?

Simple Herveys Range. The river bed at Hells Gate is roughly 325 metres above sea level and Ross Dam is only about 25 metres below the wall. If a straight line were taken from Hells Gate, there are some 600-metre-high hills in the way. Even if it followed the lowest possible track along the old Greenvale Rail Line it would lose another 20 metres or so to get to a down-river pump station near the rail/river crossing and then need to be pumped up to at least 385 metres over about 80 km before it starts to drop onto the flood plain. It is unfeasible to siphon water over that distance and height in large pipes which means water would need to be pumped. In-pipe generators could be used to recover some of the energy expended on pumping water, but they would be unlikely to cover the initial energy costs. As the dam would be owned by Sunwater, Townsville would still have to buy an allocation to help recover the construction and maintenance costs, as well as pay for the interest and depreciation. The pipeline would also need to be about 20 km longer, funded by ratepayers.

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#1405121 - 03/02/2017 11:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Originally Posted By: Raindammit
Weatherwise, January officially ended at 9am this morning.
Jan ended at 9am on Feb 1st, remember rainfall is 9am til 9am.

Anyway looking at the models, I remember someone saying that if we get a cyclone form the shear will suddenly change from the consistent westward shear to a more easterly shear, Seems there right. THe Cyclone Access is forecasting looks to head to the graveyard. IF it comes off anyway.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Oct 2017]: 304.4mm (Ave 74.9mm)
Sept 2017: 12.9mm (avg 35.6mm)
YTD 2017 1484.2mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1405138 - 03/02/2017 15:05 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: rainthisway]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
Originally Posted By: rainthisway
Jan ended at 9am on Feb 1st, remember rainfall is 9am til 9am.


You are getting it the wrong way round mate, the days rainfall is written up for the 24hours ending 9am. so 9am today would total the rain from 9am yesterday to 9am today. hence why the month officially ends at 9am on the last day of the month.

More info -
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/austmaps/about-rain-maps.shtml
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September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405180 - 03/02/2017 20:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Oh feck your right lol ignore what i said lol. Access has a nice cyclone forecast. Shame it looks to head south.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Oct 2017]: 304.4mm (Ave 74.9mm)
Sept 2017: 12.9mm (avg 35.6mm)
YTD 2017 1484.2mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1405184 - 03/02/2017 20:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
lol, all good mate.

All models showing a tc in the coral sea and/or goc. good signs.
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September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405203 - 03/02/2017 23:55 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Just hope it gives us a good widespread pour down for couple days. Fill ross dam and all other dams in need of a filling.


Edited by rainthisway (04/02/2017 00:02)
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Oct 2017]: 304.4mm (Ave 74.9mm)
Sept 2017: 12.9mm (avg 35.6mm)
YTD 2017 1484.2mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1405259 - 04/02/2017 11:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
2.6mm in kirwan this morning
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405402 - 05/02/2017 09:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
Chance of more light showers today. To rub salt into wounds the monsoon darwin is getting over past 48hours would have half filled our dam. And they are expecting another week of it.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405470 - 05/02/2017 12:45 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
showers to the north and south of us, nothing over the city or burbs. sucks
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405808 - 06/02/2017 21:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
nice little shower over kirwan right now smells so nice.

sadly looking more and more likely this monsoon pulse wont bring us anything at all. GOC low going SW Coral sea low going SE. once again piggy in the middle.

we can write February off already, normally our wettest month of the year.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405825 - 07/02/2017 00:59 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Nice monsoonal storm settling in over Ingham. Nice breeze and the rain on the tin roof make for a good nights sleep smile

Well not for me. I'm sitting on the verandah with a beer watching it roll in smile
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#1405979 - 07/02/2017 21:15 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
well, im going to go and lie down in the corner and suck my thumb until 2019. see you all then.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1405982 - 07/02/2017 21:22 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
Red Watch Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
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Loc: Cranbrook, Townsville
Originally Posted By: Mick10
well, im going to go and lie down in the corner and suck my thumb until 2019. see you all then.

sleep

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#1406039 - 08/02/2017 00:04 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Loc: Townsville
Yup see ya in 2019.

Makes me so angry how fun weather used to be.

Distant memory now.
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#1406092 - 08/02/2017 11:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
I will come join you, THis Wet season was slow starting and early finishing. I just don't see anything substantial happening now. All the activity is happening in NT and WA which is good for them but still. TC's this year for CS will be Zero.

Sums the season up:
The monsoon trough will remain active in the northern Coral Sea over the coming days. A number of transient low pressure systems may develop on the trough, however atmospheric conditions are unfavourable for cyclone development.


Edited by rainthisway (08/02/2017 11:15)
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Oct 2017]: 304.4mm (Ave 74.9mm)
Sept 2017: 12.9mm (avg 35.6mm)
YTD 2017 1484.2mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1406260 - 08/02/2017 21:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
gazzatsv Offline
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Registered: 19/03/2011
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Loc: Townsville
Grass browning off here. I honestly think we are in some serious trouble. Getting nothing out of this monsoon burst and by the time the next comes around it will nearly be end of march into April. Not reliable times for decent events. Especially dam filling ones. Classic green drought at the moment.

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#1406269 - 08/02/2017 22:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
had 1.2mm overnight then another 4.4mm this afternoon in a heavy shower.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1406319 - 09/02/2017 10:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14156
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
As I said in November and December this wet will be a bust. I had 2mm from yesterday but that's not doing a lick of good. We aren't going to see the dam full this year unless we get an out of left field unless we get another Night of Noah. 6 years since Yasi and not a dam thing of any significance since then.

I am predicting or I should say repeating that we won't see any cyclones for us this season. Probably nothing decent until December at this rate and unless we get some semi decent falls in the Dry which is highly unlikely. Past time the state government stepped in and started either paying for part of the costs to pump or come up with another plan to get us more water.

Yes we are in a green drought.
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202mm April 2017
Best 156mm 19/5/17
Oct 143mm
2017 Total 836mm
2016 Total 649mm
2015 Total 375mm
2014 Total 1032mm
2013 Total 715mm







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#1406525 - 10/02/2017 09:46 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
only shining light at the moment, is gfs hinting the GOC low might go SE instead of west.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
September 2017 total - 1.4mm (11mm)
October 2017 total - 95.0mm (26mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 801.4mm (1122mm)

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#1406535 - 10/02/2017 10:52 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Vinnie Offline
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Loc: Near Yeppoon
Perth just got over 100mm . So I guess anything ispossible.
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