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#1404692 - 31/01/2017 13:05 North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017
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#1404696 - 31/01/2017 13:17 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Absolutely bucketing down in North Ward ATM. Even a bit of thunder. smile

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#1404701 - 31/01/2017 14:02 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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It's still January

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#1404703 - 31/01/2017 14:15 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Weatherwise, January officially ended at 9am this morning.
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#1404718 - 31/01/2017 16:29 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Wow very quiet in here
Airport has had 44mm today and you guys quiet as
The rains are er..sorr of
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#1404720 - 31/01/2017 16:36 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Great start to the month.airport doing well with 45mm to 3pm. Twice what ive had out in kirwan
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#1404747 - 31/01/2017 19:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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56mm in BG to 6pm.
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#1404751 - 31/01/2017 19:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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damn lucky bugger.
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#1404766 - 31/01/2017 21:06 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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meant to have a decent NE flow tonight, but looks like its not happening. easterly flow drying up while cairns and mackay continue to get rain off shore. just not happening for us. thought we were a chance of a few good wet season ish days/nights.
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March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
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#1404788 - 01/02/2017 07:20 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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What's become of the Bilyana alert, RD ?

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#1404793 - 01/02/2017 08:05 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Still offline, but the BOM are fixing it apparently.
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#1404838 - 01/02/2017 13:35 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Checked Nylex at 11.55pm last night and had 17mm, checked it again this morning no increase and while the airport got 44mm the dam catchment got less than that by a long shot. Dam wall was only 11mm.

Some people on Facebook are going off about how much water is flowing into the dam and it will soon be full again, but it isn't. It is still sitting on 19% with no increase in the last week.
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#1404871 - 01/02/2017 19:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Perth dams hover between 20-30 percent full for years on end... https://www.watercorporation.com.au/water-supply/rainfall-and-dams/dam-levels

Maybe it is time for Townsville to get a different water source?

Desal?
Underground water?
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#1404884 - 01/02/2017 21:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.
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#1404947 - 02/02/2017 10:00 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: SBT
We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.


Bugger the water, you lot want a stadium don't you?? poke

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#1405044 - 02/02/2017 19:54 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: slipperyfish]
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Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
Originally Posted By: SBT
We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.


Bugger the water, you lot want a stadium don't you?? poke

Whats with the stadium vs water storage they on different fundings, Townsville wont be getting funding for hell gate, Sunwater will be the only one with that responsibility and you can not gravity feed from the Hells Gate Dam area because the Harvey Range is in the road.
http://nqcc.org.au/2016/water-security-series-part3/

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#1405063 - 02/02/2017 21:17 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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the feasibility study examines whether the pipeline can be gravity feed or what is the best option, what other agricultural options are available and lastly whether building the entire dam is actually worth the funding. the commonwealth must have an updated study to ensure its money well spent.

re the stadium, i am not sure what the hooha is about the stadium vs water either Red Watch. people expect the city to come to a grinding halt just while we wait for water security.
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#1405071 - 02/02/2017 22:04 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Just have a look at the new stadium being built In Perth right next door to the WACA. That's big $$$ and they also have water issues.

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#1405074 - 02/02/2017 22:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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yes thats right sangas. thank you.

personally i have been a bit torn in the battle for and against he stadium. the current one being in the suburbs, the new one being in the city. having seen what docklands, adelaide and perth have done swayed me. i work at the current stadium on game nights and it is very old, doesnt meet many modern safety and disability standards. however it is good to have it near the burbs. good inner city transit planing must take place in the city to ensure patrons can get decent access to the ground with limited parking being available.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405079 - 02/02/2017 23:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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State and Feds have already earmarked budget for stadium. I'm not fussed about it 1 way or the other as I won't ever go to either 1. (Too old and broken to put up with crowds and the climbing of steps etc) But if they don't also create a new dedicated parking and bus interchange areas it will be a white elephant. The present stadium was a trotting track upgraded in haste when the Cowboys were first created. it is as Mick says long in the tooth and it should have been bulldozed years ago. Just like our Entertainment Centre.

I can't remember in detail what the Hells Gate feasibility plan that Katter had but I do remember the part about gravity feeding to weirs so maybe I got that bit off side.

Had another 5mm in the Nylex this morning. Nice surprise but its not doing much but increasing the humidity.
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