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#1404692 - 31/01/2017 13:05 North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017
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#1404696 - 31/01/2017 13:17 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Absolutely bucketing down in North Ward ATM. Even a bit of thunder. smile

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#1404701 - 31/01/2017 14:02 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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It's still January

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#1404703 - 31/01/2017 14:15 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Weatherwise, January officially ended at 9am this morning.
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#1404718 - 31/01/2017 16:29 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Wow very quiet in here
Airport has had 44mm today and you guys quiet as
The rains are er..sorr of
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#1404720 - 31/01/2017 16:36 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Great start to the month.airport doing well with 45mm to 3pm. Twice what ive had out in kirwan
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March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
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#1404747 - 31/01/2017 19:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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56mm in BG to 6pm.
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#1404751 - 31/01/2017 19:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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damn lucky bugger.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1404766 - 31/01/2017 21:06 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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meant to have a decent NE flow tonight, but looks like its not happening. easterly flow drying up while cairns and mackay continue to get rain off shore. just not happening for us. thought we were a chance of a few good wet season ish days/nights.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
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#1404788 - 01/02/2017 07:20 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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What's become of the Bilyana alert, RD ?

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#1404793 - 01/02/2017 08:05 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Still offline, but the BOM are fixing it apparently.
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#1404838 - 01/02/2017 13:35 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Checked Nylex at 11.55pm last night and had 17mm, checked it again this morning no increase and while the airport got 44mm the dam catchment got less than that by a long shot. Dam wall was only 11mm.

Some people on Facebook are going off about how much water is flowing into the dam and it will soon be full again, but it isn't. It is still sitting on 19% with no increase in the last week.
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#1404871 - 01/02/2017 19:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Perth dams hover between 20-30 percent full for years on end... https://www.watercorporation.com.au/water-supply/rainfall-and-dams/dam-levels

Maybe it is time for Townsville to get a different water source?

Desal?
Underground water?
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#1404884 - 01/02/2017 21:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.
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#1404947 - 02/02/2017 10:00 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: SBT
We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.


Bugger the water, you lot want a stadium don't you?? poke

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#1405044 - 02/02/2017 19:54 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: slipperyfish]
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Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
Originally Posted By: SBT
We have water security Vinnie, its called the Burdekin Falls Dam. You can't build a dam when there is no where suitable to put it, which is why we have a dam where it is now, it was the best of a worst situation. It was the only place to put 1 and it is too shallow, too wide and the catchment area is miniscule. Compound that with a earth filled dam wall 7 kilometers long and they had to lower the spillway to relieve the pressure on the leaking wall while they rebuilt it.

There just isn't anywhere else to build 1 within the metropolitan area. There are 2 directions for stream flow - to the coast and to the west where it is captured by the Burdekin Catchment. Ross Dam is about 100m from the highway to Charters Towers in some places and across the road the water runs west. Yes Hells Gate will be a godsend to help relieve some costs as approx. 70% of the pipeline will be gravity fed but that won't happen in the next 5 years. It has been "Feasibility studied" (political double speak to mean its not my problem so go away and have a think about it) by the LNP. Bob Katter already has such a study but that's not good enough for the LNP and the state government doesn't give a rats because we are too far north of Nambour to care about. So no funding equals no dam.


Bugger the water, you lot want a stadium don't you?? poke

Whats with the stadium vs water storage they on different fundings, Townsville wont be getting funding for hell gate, Sunwater will be the only one with that responsibility and you can not gravity feed from the Hells Gate Dam area because the Harvey Range is in the road.
http://nqcc.org.au/2016/water-security-series-part3/

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#1405063 - 02/02/2017 21:17 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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the feasibility study examines whether the pipeline can be gravity feed or what is the best option, what other agricultural options are available and lastly whether building the entire dam is actually worth the funding. the commonwealth must have an updated study to ensure its money well spent.

re the stadium, i am not sure what the hooha is about the stadium vs water either Red Watch. people expect the city to come to a grinding halt just while we wait for water security.
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March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
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#1405071 - 02/02/2017 22:04 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Just have a look at the new stadium being built In Perth right next door to the WACA. That's big $$$ and they also have water issues.

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#1405074 - 02/02/2017 22:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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yes thats right sangas. thank you.

personally i have been a bit torn in the battle for and against he stadium. the current one being in the suburbs, the new one being in the city. having seen what docklands, adelaide and perth have done swayed me. i work at the current stadium on game nights and it is very old, doesnt meet many modern safety and disability standards. however it is good to have it near the burbs. good inner city transit planing must take place in the city to ensure patrons can get decent access to the ground with limited parking being available.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405079 - 02/02/2017 23:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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State and Feds have already earmarked budget for stadium. I'm not fussed about it 1 way or the other as I won't ever go to either 1. (Too old and broken to put up with crowds and the climbing of steps etc) But if they don't also create a new dedicated parking and bus interchange areas it will be a white elephant. The present stadium was a trotting track upgraded in haste when the Cowboys were first created. it is as Mick says long in the tooth and it should have been bulldozed years ago. Just like our Entertainment Centre.

I can't remember in detail what the Hells Gate feasibility plan that Katter had but I do remember the part about gravity feeding to weirs so maybe I got that bit off side.

Had another 5mm in the Nylex this morning. Nice surprise but its not doing much but increasing the humidity.
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#1405085 - 03/02/2017 01:08 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
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Originally Posted By: Mick10
the feasibility study examines whether the pipeline can be gravity feed or what is the best option, what other agricultural options are available and lastly whether building the entire dam is actually worth the funding. the commonwealth must have an updated study to ensure its money well spent.

re the stadium, i am not sure what the hooha is about the stadium vs water either Red Watch. people expect the city to come to a grinding halt just while we wait for water security.

This is an extract from this web page.
http://nqcc.org.au/2016/water-security-series-part2/
WHY WONíT IT JUST RUN FROM HELLíS GATE TO ROSS DAM?

Simple Ė Herveyís Range. The river bed at Hellís Gate is roughly 325 metres above sea level and Ross Dam is only about 25 metres below the wall. If a straight line were taken from Hellís Gate, there are some 600-metre-high hills in the way. Even if it followed the lowest possible track Ė along the old Greenvale Rail Line Ė it would lose another 20 metres or so to get to a down-river pump station near the rail/river crossing and then need to be pumped up to at least 385 metres over about 80 km before it starts to drop onto the flood plain. It is unfeasible to siphon water over that distance and height in large pipes which means water would need to be pumped. In-pipe generators could be used to recover some of the energy expended on pumping water, but they would be unlikely to cover the initial energy costs. As the dam would be owned by Sunwater, Townsville would still have to buy an allocation to help recover the construction and maintenance costs, as well as pay for the interest and depreciation. The pipeline would also need to be about 20 km longer, funded by ratepayers.

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#1405121 - 03/02/2017 11:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Originally Posted By: Raindammit
Weatherwise, January officially ended at 9am this morning.
Jan ended at 9am on Feb 1st, remember rainfall is 9am til 9am.

Anyway looking at the models, I remember someone saying that if we get a cyclone form the shear will suddenly change from the consistent westward shear to a more easterly shear, Seems there right. THe Cyclone Access is forecasting looks to head to the graveyard. IF it comes off anyway.
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#1405138 - 03/02/2017 15:05 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: rainthisway]
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Originally Posted By: rainthisway
Jan ended at 9am on Feb 1st, remember rainfall is 9am til 9am.


You are getting it the wrong way round mate, the days rainfall is written up for the 24hours ending 9am. so 9am today would total the rain from 9am yesterday to 9am today. hence why the month officially ends at 9am on the last day of the month.

More info -
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/austmaps/about-rain-maps.shtml
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405180 - 03/02/2017 20:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Oh feck your right lol ignore what i said lol. Access has a nice cyclone forecast. Shame it looks to head south.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1405184 - 03/02/2017 20:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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lol, all good mate.

All models showing a tc in the coral sea and/or goc. good signs.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405203 - 03/02/2017 23:55 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Just hope it gives us a good widespread pour down for couple days. Fill ross dam and all other dams in need of a filling.


Edited by rainthisway (04/02/2017 00:02)
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MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1405259 - 04/02/2017 11:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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2.6mm in kirwan this morning
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405402 - 05/02/2017 09:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Chance of more light showers today. To rub salt into wounds the monsoon darwin is getting over past 48hours would have half filled our dam. And they are expecting another week of it.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405470 - 05/02/2017 12:45 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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showers to the north and south of us, nothing over the city or burbs. sucks
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405808 - 06/02/2017 21:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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nice little shower over kirwan right now smells so nice.

sadly looking more and more likely this monsoon pulse wont bring us anything at all. GOC low going SW Coral sea low going SE. once again piggy in the middle.

we can write February off already, normally our wettest month of the year.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405825 - 07/02/2017 00:59 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Nice monsoonal storm settling in over Ingham. Nice breeze and the rain on the tin roof make for a good nights sleep smile

Well not for me. I'm sitting on the verandah with a beer watching it roll in smile
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#1405979 - 07/02/2017 21:15 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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well, im going to go and lie down in the corner and suck my thumb until 2019. see you all then.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1405982 - 07/02/2017 21:22 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
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Originally Posted By: Mick10
well, im going to go and lie down in the corner and suck my thumb until 2019. see you all then.

sleep

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#1406039 - 08/02/2017 00:04 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Yup see ya in 2019.

Makes me so angry how fun weather used to be.

Distant memory now.
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#1406092 - 08/02/2017 11:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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I will come join you, THis Wet season was slow starting and early finishing. I just don't see anything substantial happening now. All the activity is happening in NT and WA which is good for them but still. TC's this year for CS will be Zero.

Sums the season up:
The monsoon trough will remain active in the northern Coral Sea over the coming days. A number of transient low pressure systems may develop on the trough, however atmospheric conditions are unfavourable for cyclone development.


Edited by rainthisway (08/02/2017 11:15)
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1406260 - 08/02/2017 21:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Grass browning off here. I honestly think we are in some serious trouble. Getting nothing out of this monsoon burst and by the time the next comes around it will nearly be end of march into April. Not reliable times for decent events. Especially dam filling ones. Classic green drought at the moment.

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#1406269 - 08/02/2017 22:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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had 1.2mm overnight then another 4.4mm this afternoon in a heavy shower.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1406319 - 09/02/2017 10:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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As I said in November and December this wet will be a bust. I had 2mm from yesterday but that's not doing a lick of good. We aren't going to see the dam full this year unless we get an out of left field unless we get another Night of Noah. 6 years since Yasi and not a dam thing of any significance since then.

I am predicting or I should say repeating that we won't see any cyclones for us this season. Probably nothing decent until December at this rate and unless we get some semi decent falls in the Dry which is highly unlikely. Past time the state government stepped in and started either paying for part of the costs to pump or come up with another plan to get us more water.

Yes we are in a green drought.
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#1406525 - 10/02/2017 09:46 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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only shining light at the moment, is gfs hinting the GOC low might go SE instead of west.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1406535 - 10/02/2017 10:52 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Loc: Central Qld.
Perth just got over 100mm . So I guess anything ispossible.
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#1406541 - 10/02/2017 11:26 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
THe models cant decide what is gonna happen lol Change so much
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1406577 - 10/02/2017 13:29 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
yeah mate thats the issue hey, so fickle this year, no consistency at all.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1406585 - 10/02/2017 14:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Been getting light showers over night, not much only getting like 0.3 - 2mm at anytime.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407141 - 12/02/2017 00:42 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23486
Loc: Townsville
Ahhh the wettest part of the year.
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#1407192 - 12/02/2017 10:51 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14126
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
BoM can't make an accurate prediction for 24 hours so I can't see the models being any better but then I am an absolute cynic when it comes to models. Mind you I am always happy to be proven wrong and I sure as hell want that GoC thingo to head down the middle of Qld and break the drought.
No rainfall recorded since last post.
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#1407201 - 12/02/2017 11:09 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
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Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
Could be an interesting St Valentine's Day ....

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Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407456 - 13/02/2017 08:20 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Wow. Gfs has scaled back alot of the rain this week. From like 250mm yesterdays run to 30mm todays.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407496 - 13/02/2017 13:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
So anyone wanna give there opinion of storms today? Plenty of heat. Instabilty is there. So all good right?
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407507 - 13/02/2017 14:39 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
chance inland today only. coastal regions much better chance from tomorrow.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407511 - 13/02/2017 14:55 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
According to bsch forecast, Its better on the coast where the instability is higher. . What info made you come up with your prediction?


Edited by rainthisway (13/02/2017 14:57)
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407554 - 13/02/2017 18:39 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
But your right mick. Its inland. I can hear the thunder here and smell the rain but its just to far inland.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407559 - 13/02/2017 18:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: rainthisway]
Red Watch Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 246
Loc: Townsville
Originally Posted By: rainthisway
Wow. Gfs has scaled back alot of the rain this week. From like 250mm yesterdays run to 30mm todays.

Yea I think the higher rainfall was on the assumption of the low crossing the cape.


Edited by Red Watch (13/02/2017 18:51)

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#1407578 - 13/02/2017 19:37 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23486
Loc: Townsville
31/26 feels like 39C at 635pm.

Kill us.
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#1407581 - 13/02/2017 19:53 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Vinnie Offline
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Registered: 17/05/2006
Posts: 6124
Loc: Central Qld.
About the same here. 29/26 feels like 37 deg.
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#1407604 - 13/02/2017 22:03 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 741
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
9pm ... Currently 32C/74% humidity ... no breeze or air movement at all ...

Note: the barometric pressure has dropped 3 hectopascals since 9am this morning .... maybe ????
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Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407605 - 13/02/2017 22:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
34.6c in my lounge room at 9pm, 31.1c on the patio.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407629 - 14/02/2017 08:38 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Was still 31.5įC at 2am here. Dew point was only 19.4įC. Wind was strong.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407649 - 14/02/2017 11:13 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14126
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
Min was 30.1C got up feeling like absolute crap despite having bedroom aircon on all night.
Checked temp at 8.00am it was 36.5C
9.00 it was 37.8C
10.00 it was 39.2C

So 40C+ is not only possible but will happen at my place before 12.00. As I have said multiple times the airport temperatures only reflect what the airport is recording not what the rest of us are experiencing. At Rasmussen I am always 4 to 6C higher than the airport during summer and at least 2C colder than the airport in winter.
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#1407691 - 14/02/2017 16:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Reached 40 yesterday. Exceeded that today. Just hope the storms fire up. Nothing exciting on the radar yet.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407695 - 14/02/2017 16:46 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14126
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
Got back home at 1.55pm and it was 41.1C according to me weather station. But only 40% humidity so it was bearable, just.
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#1407698 - 14/02/2017 17:10 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
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Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
4pm. Every window and door in the house open, fans on full in my high block queenslander 35C, humidity 62% and barometer down another 2 hectopascals ... (that's inside folks by the way!)

Storms are forming to the west even as I write .. dear god, please bring it on ......................................


Edited by Rhubarb (14/02/2017 17:29)
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Hen scarts and filly tails make lofty ships wear low sails.

Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407704 - 14/02/2017 18:35 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Snappy Offline
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Registered: 21/03/2011
Posts: 44
Loc: Annandale
Angry looking radar all moving to the north.
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#1407712 - 14/02/2017 19:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
All inland. Dying out as it tracks east. *sigh* somethings gotta make it please. Mick promised it was the coasts turn lol
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407713 - 14/02/2017 19:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 741
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
Popping up out of nowhere .... maybe ENE .... feel like I'm expecting a baby ....
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Hen scarts and filly tails make lofty ships wear low sails.

Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407742 - 14/02/2017 22:45 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Registered: 15/01/2008
Posts: 622
Loc: North Ward, Townsville. Toll, ...
Had a beautiful storm here in CT earlier on. Looking forwards to checking the gauge tomorrow.

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#1407753 - 15/02/2017 06:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
what an absolute pearler of a 4am storm! clear air cg's were incredible, and so bright. dont get these ones very often!
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407755 - 15/02/2017 07:13 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Chookie Offline
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Registered: 20/03/2009
Posts: 1899
Loc: Kirwan
It is so nice, hopefully we get a great one this arvo to

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#1407765 - 15/02/2017 08:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Glad you guys got something. Still nothing up this way.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407766 - 15/02/2017 08:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Sunny Showers Offline
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Registered: 08/01/2010
Posts: 259
Loc: Townsville.
Plenty of thunder and lightning here in dusty Brownsville this morning. No rain of course, but it does remind us of a time long long ago when we did have rain and storms here....
#FTS

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#1407767 - 15/02/2017 08:54 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
mitasol Offline
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Registered: 26/12/2011
Posts: 858
Loc: Kirwan
Originally Posted By: Mick10
what an absolute pearler of a 4am storm! clear air cg's were incredible, and so bright. dont get these ones very often!


Yep, set the Jack Russell alarm clock off! Looks like a short power outage in town at around 4.30

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#1407791 - 15/02/2017 12:21 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
*sigh* the light drips of rain are clearing. What is with the lack of rain yet decent setups.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407795 - 15/02/2017 13:02 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
cyclonic Offline
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Registered: 19/09/2010
Posts: 162
Loc: Mount Louisa Queensland
Radar looking fairly normal for Townsville, playing piggy in the middle as always, DOME activated
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#1407801 - 15/02/2017 13:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14126
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
A massive rain event it wasn't with 0.5mm in the rain gauge. I missed all the lightning and thunder except when I got up about 4.30am and saw some lightning away in the distance. Brain wasn't working so it wasn't until I was listening to Pricey that I heard about it all.
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#1407807 - 15/02/2017 14:12 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 741
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
I hear thunder, I hear thunder, hark don't you??? Keep on coming this way .... we're waiting for you with open arms smile
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Hen scarts and filly tails make lofty ships wear low sails.

Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407822 - 15/02/2017 16:21 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Storm to my south west seems stationary on the radar. At least the heavy section does.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407826 - 15/02/2017 16:47 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
all of them seem stationary, thats why mackay got 100mm, sadly we just cannot get one to form over the burbs or dam.
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407835 - 15/02/2017 17:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
All moving now but there moving all over the place. No pattern to any of them
Ones going north west, one south east, one south. There all over.
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Nikko

Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407847 - 15/02/2017 19:56 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Snappy Offline
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Registered: 21/03/2011
Posts: 44
Loc: Annandale
What an amazing radar. Surely it hits Town!
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#1407874 - 15/02/2017 22:38 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
day two of this event for a total of about 8mm, massive let down so far. still have the SE surge to move thru
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407895 - 16/02/2017 08:57 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Looks like you guys in tsv are gonna get smashed. Awesome.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407903 - 16/02/2017 10:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24658
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
only a few suburbs got hit well, airport nearly 40mm, in kirwan be lucky if ive had 5mm.
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Kirwan, Townsville Nth Qld -
February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1407904 - 16/02/2017 10:58 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: rainthisway]
Tuco Offline
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Registered: 22/03/2006
Posts: 820
Loc: Townsville (Mundingburra)
Originally Posted By: rainthisway
Looks like you guys in tsv are gonna get smashed. Awesome.

Lucky to have got 1mm in Mundingburra.

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#1407909 - 16/02/2017 11:37 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Registered: 15/01/2008
Posts: 622
Loc: North Ward, Townsville. Toll, ...
Surely more to come at some stage today. It's looking ominous. Wife just texted me saying the rain is torrential in Charters Towers at the moment.

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#1407933 - 16/02/2017 14:34 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Registered: 15/01/2008
Posts: 622
Loc: North Ward, Townsville. Toll, ...
Hammering down with a lot of wind in North Ward at the moment. smile

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#1407938 - 16/02/2017 14:57 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 741
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
Chucking it down in West End. After all the pyrotechnics of the last couple of days only had 3.5mm. Now, the rain gauge is filling up as I'm watching it .. woo hoo!!
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Hen scarts and filly tails make lofty ships wear low sails.

Rainfall
2017: March: 161.5 mm
2017: To date: 427.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1407942 - 16/02/2017 15:24 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
CuNimJim Offline
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Registered: 21/12/2005
Posts: 395
Loc: Whitfield, Cairns
Cmon guys where is the excitement?! Great to see some storms really pushing onto the coast from the NE. Hope you all get a decent drop. Some pics pls.


Edited by CuNimJim (16/02/2017 15:26)
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MTD: 101.0mm (March)
YTD: 944.5mm

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#1407944 - 16/02/2017 15:26 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Raindammit Offline
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 12529
Loc: Townsville & Bilyana NQ
Just drove back into Townsville from Bilyana - was BLACK AS to the SE as I approached the city, then the rain was torrential going down Ingham Rd past the Airport, and all the way back to BG. grin
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#1407945 - 16/02/2017 15:28 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
CuNimJim Offline
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Registered: 21/12/2005
Posts: 395
Loc: Whitfield, Cairns
You are greedy RD - getting rain at both places! Enjoy it after such a long wait. Lets see some red spots in the morning over the dam - fingers crossed SBT it makes it out your way too!
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MTD: 101.0mm (March)
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#1407948 - 16/02/2017 15:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
ol mate Offline
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Registered: 27/03/2010
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Loc: Ingham, North Qld
Heaviest rain this wet season has set in in Ingham....its BUCKETING down
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#1407949 - 16/02/2017 15:44 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
ol mate Offline
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TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
for HEAVY RAINFALL
For people in the
North Tropical Coast and Tablelands and parts of the
Herbert and Lower Burdekin Forecast Districts.

Issued at 2:00 pm Thursday, 16 February 2017.
Severe thunderstorms are likely to produce heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding in the warning area over the next several hours. Locations which may be affected include Cairns, Port Douglas, Palm Island, Ingham, Innisfail, Mareeba, Mossman, Cardwell and Atherton.

64mm of rainfall was recently recorded in 30 minutes west of Innisfail.
Queensland Fire and Emergency Services advises that people should:
* Never drive, walk or ride through flood waters. If it's flooded, forget it.
* Seek shelter, preferably indoors and never under trees.
* Avoid using the telephone during a thunderstorm.
* Beware of fallen trees and powerlines.
* For emergency assistance contact the SES on 132 500.

The next warning is due to be issued by 5:00 pm.


Edited by ol mate (16/02/2017 15:45)
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#1407962 - 16/02/2017 17:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Eased up in ingham as Im here doing shopping, still steady thou. Still hammering down in mutarnee according to mum at home.

Also looks like that goc low might be heading in a good direct according to most models they have it moving east.


Edited by rainthisway (16/02/2017 17:30)
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407968 - 16/02/2017 17:43 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
CuNimJim Offline
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Loc: Whitfield, Cairns
Something has to happen for TSV - so close yet so far. At least Paluma Dam should fill. Seems it is playing out just as ACCESS-R said it would...TSV in a gap with coastal precip only until Rollingstone where is has come ashore. Surely out of this a decent wet TS cell will appear before the clearing for you all there. Nothing in CNS either - everything south and west.
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#1407977 - 16/02/2017 18:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Crystal creek rose about 1 meter instantly in a torrent of water earlier this arvo.
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MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1407990 - 16/02/2017 20:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Just tipped 40mm out of my gauge from last night and today.

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#1407997 - 16/02/2017 20:32 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Well we finally got a storm. It was awesome. Had random clear air CGS landing all around me driving to find a good spot to set the tripod up at 4am yesterday!

So thats the wet season for the year....





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#1408000 - 16/02/2017 20:33 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Weary Offline
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Drove from charters towers down to Clermont today and it was hammering down
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#1408010 - 16/02/2017 21:31 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Tipped 34 mm out of my rain gauge at 8pm. Wicked AND it looks like Cyclone Alfred is forming in the Gulf and this cyclone is due to move EAST for a change ....... the change in the air quality today has been humongous
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2017: To date: 427.5 mm
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#1408032 - 16/02/2017 22:48 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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7mm until 9.00am this morning and another 25mm since then.

The dome is really really, really, pizzing me off.
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#1408039 - 16/02/2017 23:54 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Potential Cyclone Alfred

Looking good and moving in the right direction ............

ABPW10 PGTW 161230
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE WESTERN AND
/SOUTH PACIFIC OCEANS REISSUED/161230Z-170600ZFEB2017//
RMKS/

(2) THE AREA OF CONVECTION (INVEST 91P) PREVIOUSLY LOCATED
NEAR 15.8S 138.6E IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 16.1S 139.6E, APPROXIMATELY
20NM NORTH-NORTHEAST OF MORNINGTON ISLAND, AUSTRALIA. ANIMATED
ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS DEEP CONVECTION
DECREASING IN AREAL EXTENT, HOWEVER, RADAR IMAGERY FROM THE
MORNINGTON ISLAND RADAR SHOWS A CONSOLIDATING LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER WITH BANDING WRAPPING INTO A WELL-DEFINED CENTER. A 160914Z
SSMIS 91GHZ IMAGE SHOWS A COMPACT SYSTEM WITH CONVECTIVE BANDING
WRAPPING INTO A WEAK MICROWAVE EYE FEATURE. SURFACE OBSERVATIONS
FROM MORNINGTON ISLAND SHOW SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS
GUSTING TO 25 TO 30 KNOTS WITH A SLP VALUE OF 1004.3MB AND A 24-HOUR
SLP DECREASE OF 2.6MB. IF THIS AREA REMAINS OVER WATER,
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE DYNAMICALLY FAVORABLE FOR FURTHER
DEVELOPMENT WITH GOOD DIFFLUENCE ALOFT, LOW TO MODERATE VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR AND WARM SST (29 TO 30C). THE GLOBAL MODELS DEPICT A
QUASI-STATIONARY MOTION AND SLOW DEVELOPMENT AS THE SYSTEM
TRACKS ALONG THE SOUTHERN GULF OF CARPENTARIA OVER THE NEXT TWO
DAYS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1004 MB.
THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO MEDIUM.
(3) NO OTHER SUSPECT AREAS.
3. JUSTIFICATION FOR REISSUE: UPGRADED AREA (INVEST 91P) IN
PARAGRAPH 2.B.(2) TO MEDIUM.//
NNNN


Edited by Rhubarb (17/02/2017 00:04)
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2017: To date: 427.5 mm
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#1408044 - 17/02/2017 07:05 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Ronfishes Offline
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Nice pics Trav, this is you mate:

http://www.kowanyama.qld.gov.au/our-environment/infrastructure-projects

Check out how flat is is in the pic... pretty sure even the airport goes under water there
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#1408046 - 17/02/2017 07:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
18mm over this three day event. Nothing more than a big downer.
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#1408085 - 17/02/2017 10:35 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Chookie Offline
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Registered: 20/03/2009
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Loc: Kirwan
Let's hope we get a lot more with this cyclone

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#1408092 - 17/02/2017 11:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
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Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
Yes Mick I recorded a grand total of 23mm. Bah hum bug.
Once again as per usual, diddled by the models (Wink, wink say no more)
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#1408132 - 17/02/2017 14:44 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Models have been near on close to the totals we all got. So dunno what models your looking at SBT but the ones I looked at got it almost spot on. Obviously they cant do it exactly because of local geology but for the most part the models came through as a good indication. Said we would have 25 - 50 mm up this way and we got 49.1mm so not bad at all. Truth is Townsville is in a hell hole location so rain never accumulates down there like the models predict, mainly due to its geographic location. These things have to be taken in to consideration.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1408247 - 17/02/2017 23:47 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Raindammit Offline
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61mm from this event in BG, I'm not complaining.

Would have been good to see some decent falls in the Ross River Dam catchment area though..
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#1408267 - 18/02/2017 08:07 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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I wanna see the dam empty. Bring it on.
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#1408268 - 18/02/2017 08:09 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Ronfishes]
Dawgggg Offline
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Loc: Townsville
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
Nice pics Trav, this is you mate:

http://www.kowanyama.qld.gov.au/our-environment/infrastructure-projects

Check out how flat is is in the pic... pretty sure even the airport goes under water there



Looks like the low wont come far East at all now:(
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#1408288 - 18/02/2017 10:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Ronfishes Offline
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Yeah hopes exploded again lol. Be super tough chasing around there anyway.
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#1408414 - 18/02/2017 17:44 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Thought I'd post this message here ... a bit sick of the WA and Broome members sledging QLD's weather. Doesn't usually happen during the TC forum. Must admit a bit disappointed. Even if there's doubt about the path etc, haven't seen such a level of sledging before. Do discuss the weather where it should be discussed.

I've been really sick for a number of weeks, thought I was getting better but just got a lot sicker. Have been watching, not always logging in as I have been feeling like sh*t&, therefore on the forum more than usual.

I think a New Year's resolution should be put in place for all members .... how about being a bit kinder to each other in 2017?

Negativity breeds negativity and makes the whole world unhappy.

If you're unhappy with anything, think on how you can change it for the better, not roll over and give up.

You may think what can I do about droughts and stuff ...

Climate change is real.

You want to change your lives and the lives of your children and grandchildren, lobby, write e-mails, persuade politicians and rule makers that you need action now.

OK had my rant for today, will now lie down in a cool, darkened room .................

PS Can't even drink at the moment, so that option isn't available


Edited by Rhubarb (18/02/2017 17:45)
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#1408584 - 19/02/2017 14:52 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Ronfishes]
Dawgggg Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
Yeah hopes exploded again lol. Be super tough chasing around there anyway.


If its not hitting Karumba or Burketown then its basically impossible to chase. It is impossible to chase.
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#1408632 - 19/02/2017 17:51 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Snappy Offline
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Loc: Annandale
Odds on this thing splits.
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#1408702 - 19/02/2017 20:20 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Rhubarb]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
Originally Posted By: Rhubarb
Thought I'd post this message here ... a bit sick of the WA and Broome members sledging QLD's weather. Doesn't usually happen during the TC forum. Must admit a bit disappointed. Even if there's doubt about the path etc, haven't seen such a level of sledging before. Do discuss the weather where it should be discussed.


its just sledging, hoping for a reply and a reason to argue. best to ignore it.

sadly another storm dies right over us. not sure what the issue is with storms not reaching the coast during daylight hours, but its really annoying!!
notice it cranked up again after it moved east of us.
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#1408847 - 20/02/2017 10:13 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Models failed Townsville again. I got 5mm out of the 50mm predicted and the dam 8mm. They are bloody useless. Happy you got 50mm but that doesn't prove much except you are the exception and not the rule.

Total till 9.00am is a massive 5mm or 10% of predicted total from the models. Yay, sorry sarcasm switch malfunctioned, again.

We have a Cat 1 cyclone. Yay, (see sarcasm statement above) BoM prediction 7 to 8 cyclones for Qld this Wet Season, I guess 1 out of 7 isn't all that bad, it could have been none out of 7. With 6 weeks left in the Wet season we are rooted rainfall and cyclone wise. I'm calling it for a failed wet season, again.

Correction NT has a cyclone, it won't cross in to Qld according to BoM track map. Sigh so that's actually 0 out of 7 predicted. Bummer.


Edited by SBT (20/02/2017 10:17)
Edit Reason: Location of cyclone
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#1408850 - 20/02/2017 10:39 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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you did better than i did, 2.4mm! yay grin
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#1408851 - 20/02/2017 10:41 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Models didnt fail at all. Cant blame models for the fact you didnt get much where as other areas of tsv reported close to modelled prediction. Models may well not be perfect but there far from useless. As someone that is clearly experienced on these forums should know rain in the townsville area is hit and miss in the best set up. A model cannot predict the total for your plot of land. Theres times Ive been in an area predicted for 100mm yet we miss it but few kms up the road gets it. Its frustrating but by no means did the model fail. I am not trying to start an arguement at all but just trying to put accross a logical angle of view as to why models do not fail in my opinion. You cannot sit there and tell me the models failed to predict rainfall. As I said they cannot predict what will fall in your very small area in the scale of things.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1408868 - 20/02/2017 13:14 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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pouring rain in the central suburbs atm, isolated cells popping up
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#1408870 - 20/02/2017 13:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
Red Watch Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
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Originally Posted By: SBT
Models failed Townsville again. I got 5mm out of the 50mm predicted and the dam 8mm. They are bloody useless. Happy you got 50mm but that doesn't prove much except you are the exception and not the rule.

Total till 9.00am is a massive 5mm or 10% of predicted total from the models. Yay, sorry sarcasm switch malfunctioned, again.

We have a Cat 1 cyclone. Yay, (see sarcasm statement above) BoM prediction 7 to 8 cyclones for Qld this Wet Season, I guess 1 out of 7 isn't all that bad, it could have been none out of 7. With 6 weeks left in the Wet season we are rooted rainfall and cyclone wise. I'm calling it for a failed wet season, again.

Correction NT has a cyclone, it won't cross in to Qld according to BoM track map. Sigh so that's actually 0 out of 7 predicted. Bummer.

The Water and the Land (WATL) web site provides rainfall forecast maps generated automatically by weather forecast models. Up to eight models are combined to produce the rainfall forecasts. Testing has shown that it easily outperforms a random guess or climatology, to at least five days ahead. This does not mean it is perfect - no forecast system ever will be - but it does mean that people can be confident that on average, the forecast will supply them information to help shape their decisions.
http://www.bom.gov.au/watl/about/about-forecast-rainfall.shtml#models


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#1408885 - 20/02/2017 15:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Sunny Showers Offline
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Registered: 08/01/2010
Posts: 259
Loc: Townsville.
Someone needs hosing down with a cool tap... Oops that's right, we have no water in Tsv and can't do that. Oh well. I agree the models did mostly ok with this one, just some of us were unlucky and not under any of the rain. 16mm for me. No biggie.

Nice convection popping up over Cape Cleveland and Mt Elliot this arvo. Not much good for us but it looks spectacular.

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#1408887 - 20/02/2017 16:10 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Happens every year that there isn't a lot of action in January and February - people start getting complacent, saying the season is a bust, etc. forgetting that the peak cyclone season in the Coral Sea isn't until March and April. Given the likelihood of an active MJO phase hitting our part of the world early in March and probably again around late March/early April, I'd say there's still a decent shot at a cyclone or two. Notably, some of the most powerful cyclones in recent years have occurred in March and April (Yasi being a notable exception). Have a look through the past cyclones to affect the Queensland east coast at http://www.australiasevereweather.com/tr...al_cyclones.htm and look at when they are most likely to make landfall.

I believe earlier in the season anything in the Coral Sea is more likely to be affected by vertical wind shear, or to be steered SE to the cyclone graveyard by frequent long-wave trough systems, but later in the season as the mid-latitude ridge moves north there is a greater likelihood of a prevailing deep easterly steering flow, which is why, I believe, cyclones in Western Australia are more likely to make landfall in Western Australia earlier in the season and less likely later.
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#1408893 - 20/02/2017 16:58 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
bbowen Offline
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SBT you are nothing if not consistent. Always with the same line of attacks at the models, and yet you jump on board when a model shows something you agree with. Gain some perspective.

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#1408977 - 21/02/2017 09:28 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
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Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Oops. I opened a can of worms. Sorry.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1409017 - 21/02/2017 15:26 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
slipperyfish Offline
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Registered: 28/11/2011
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What a tease this radar is.

We usually get a reasonable drop from a NW feed, just seems to be dying on our doorstep.

Nice cell the other side of Sellhiem. Looks nasty from where I am.

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#1409030 - 21/02/2017 16:59 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
Cells to north of charters look worse on radar
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#1409033 - 21/02/2017 17:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
slipperyfish Offline
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Yes Mick they are as black as six foot up a camels rear end.

We now need the flow to tend from the North now. Possible as there has been a slight shift in the wind direction.

Crossed fingers

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#1409087 - 21/02/2017 23:00 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
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Loc: Townsville
Mid to late march our only chance now.
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#1409095 - 22/02/2017 06:56 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
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Another day of good weather conditions wasted. Amazing how the storms form in places where the flow for us was yesterday but dont form where we need them today. Just incredible.
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#1409119 - 22/02/2017 11:20 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Models produce possible scenarios, not what will happen, but what could happen. And this is the trap people fall into, they think what a model says this will happen and take it as gospel that a certain number of mms will fall in an area as per the models prediction. That is what I have said constantly for years.


Zero rainfall recorded for previous 24 hours.

Same old groundhog days of high heat and humidity and no storms. Solar is pumping out shed loads of watts which is being gobbled up by our aircons.
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#1409122 - 22/02/2017 11:56 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Drove out to Charters Towers yesterday, came back when those cells were around the Mingela area. There was some decent thunder, and the rain was torrential at points along the highway.
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#1409144 - 22/02/2017 16:58 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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bit different at my place RD, just 0.4mm
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#1409173 - 22/02/2017 22:13 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: SBT
Models produce possible scenarios, not what will happen, but what could happen. And this is the trap people fall into, they think what a model says this will happen and take it as gospel that a certain number of mms will fall in an area as per the models prediction. That is what I have said constantly for years.


Zero rainfall recorded for previous 24 hours.

Same old groundhog days of high heat and humidity and no storms. Solar is pumping out shed loads of watts which is being gobbled up by our aircons.

Risk and uncertainty are central to forecasting and prediction; it is generally considered good practice to indicate the degree of uncertainty attaching to forecasts.Human input is still required to pick the best possible forecast model to base the forecast upon, and anyone who takes the forecast literally needs to go to this website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_forecasting

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#1409179 - 22/02/2017 23:37 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: SBT
Models produce possible scenarios, not what will happen, but what could happen. And this is the trap people fall into, they think what a model says this will happen and take it as gospel that a certain number of mms will fall in an area as per the models prediction. That is what I have said constantly for years.




With respect SBT, I know you have been a valued contributor to these threads for a long time and your contributions are generally worth a good read, however what you have said in your latest post seems contradictory to your previous ranty post, and it appears to paint a fairly accurate picture of your own expectations of the recently modeled rainfall forecasts, and then your subsequent disappointment when it didn't quite come off....again.

As you have correctly pointed out now, that what you have been constantly saying for years, weather forecasts and modeled predictions are not gospel, and expectations should not be set in stone around them, particularly as we have all come to learn for Townsville weather.
Thats good advice for weather noobs like me. When its in the gauge, then thats the rain we get, wherever we are. No guarantees.

Speaking of rain, its coming down in the Swamp at Idalia right now. I'll take that!



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#1409185 - 23/02/2017 08:50 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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30mm the night before last and another 8mm last night from a short but very heavy fall.

It is a funny season. It feels like it has been a good wet season but we still behind the average. I guess that is how it is after 5 years of nothing.🤔

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#1409197 - 23/02/2017 10:31 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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SBT, no one said the models are gospel however they are far from useless. EG notmally for my area we get more then forecasted daily amount. But thats not the models fault, its just the luck of the draw. I even said the models are not perfect. Even human inputted forecasts are far from perfect. But in my opinion saying the models are useless is irresponsible. I say because what if the situation happened that some noob vame in here and read your rants and took them literally and didnt look at the models or anything, as a result they missed a set up that was predicted near on accurate. The result being something bad. Models are there to best predict the weather so if they say your gonna get flooding rains or a cate 5 tc but it dont happen as expected, wouldnt you rather have prepared and it never happened to not preparing because you said the models are useless and you end up in deep trouble. So the fact is models can be very useful in giving you the best idea of what potentially could happen. Eg this morning tsv airport got 20mm yet watl predicted 1-5mm. Went over the predicted amount however thats not the models fault.


Edited by rainthisway (23/02/2017 10:32)
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#1409201 - 23/02/2017 11:22 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Geeeesss its pick on SBT day today..
Cant wait to read his reply post
smile
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#1409209 - 23/02/2017 12:10 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Geeeesss its pick on SBT day today..
Cant wait to read his reply post
smile


We need rain Tsunami. Quick eek

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#1409213 - 23/02/2017 12:25 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Yes slippery fish you do need rain. I have moved from townsville but still remember how much the weather used to test my patients. I used to get so angry.
Rain south. West. North. East. And everywhere but townsville grrrrr. BP going ip just thinking about it
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#1409219 - 23/02/2017 13:15 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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30mm to 9am in BG, just had another short sharp shower pass through.
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#1409229 - 23/02/2017 14:00 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Ive said it once and Ill say it again. Dry tropics. The hard fact is townsville is in a shocking spot geographically and has never and will never get as much rain as further north. Only reason we get half decent rain further north is because of the ranges. Without them we would prob be in townsvilles boat. It may have had odd days with more rainfall then up here but never will it have more annually. Its a fact no model or no pray or whatever can change. Yes you get good years but you will always get alot of low rainfall years. Its just the way it has been down there long before settlement and will be like it for long in to the future. Low rainfall years will out number high rainfall years. Without a decent low pressure system tsv will not get any decant falls. I dont know why anyone acts shocked when rain doesn't fall in tsv, its nothing new. I may not live down there but I always hope it rains alot down that way but as I said without a decent low pressure system like a TL or TC in the right location you wont get near as much as up here.

I am not picking on SBT, just giving my opinion on a certain attitude towards models and forecasting. I just believe saying models are useless is alittle irresponsible and inaccurate. I am entitled to my opinion as SBT is entitled to theres even if I believe there opinion is incorrect. If in the future they give the say opiniin I shall just roll my eyes and shake my head.


Edited by rainthisway (23/02/2017 14:08)
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#1409242 - 23/02/2017 15:50 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Just 0.4mm for me this morning. Far cry from 30mm 5km away. Very unstable SE flow atm, rare for us. even theses showers are rumbling out some thunder. Again all missing the burbs though. My grass is dying off and had to fill the pool tuesday, love 20mm right now
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#1409247 - 23/02/2017 16:13 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Yes Mick. A mate over near the airport only got 11mm and a place I was just at to the south of us had 46mm. All within 10km of each other.

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#1409270 - 23/02/2017 19:34 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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22.8mm up here in short sharp shower.
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#1409299 - 24/02/2017 05:44 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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RIP 'wet' season

Cant wait for winter. Id rather be comfortable than put up with 34C and 25C dew points and get no rain anyway.
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#1409300 - 24/02/2017 05:44 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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RIP next wet season too.
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#1409313 - 24/02/2017 09:23 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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See ya in 2019 huh trav.
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#1409644 - 26/02/2017 17:53 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Hey guys just a quick note
With the new staduim thats going to be built in the ville instead of new water storage. At least the league games wont last long and the players wont need to be fit. As without water to water the field the cracks will be that big that the balls will disappear down them..game over smile
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#1409658 - 26/02/2017 19:29 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Lol

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#1409668 - 26/02/2017 20:29 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
RIP 'wet' season

Cant wait for winter. Id rather be comfortable than put up with 34C and 25C dew points and get no rain anyway.


We have 30 deg with 20deg dew points and i can hear the neighbours split system from the outside almost everyday from the street every time i go walking, even though it's windy across from the beach they have the house sealed up with air con going.
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#1409702 - 26/02/2017 23:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Hey guys just a quick note
With the new staduim thats going to be built in the ville instead of new water storage. At least the league games wont last long and the players wont need to be fit. As without water to water the field the cracks will be that big that the balls will disappear down them..game over smile

Who says it is being built instead of new water storage, hells gate dam is for agriculture purposes and not just for Townsville. It is up to Sunwater to ascertain whether they can make money off a 2 to 3 billion dollar dam.


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#1409705 - 27/02/2017 00:22 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Sorry red watch
Just gotta look at the news to see where the gov wants to spend the $$$. Aparently townsville doesnt have a water problem....ROLMFAO X5
WOULD LIKE SBT tO IMPUT ON THIS ONE
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#1409722 - 27/02/2017 07:49 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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We are going to be pumping from the Burdekin all year, will probably start in 2 weeks again.
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#1409748 - 27/02/2017 10:36 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Sorry red watch
Just gotta look at the news to see where the gov wants to spend the $$$. Aparently townsville doesnt have a water problem....ROLMFAO X5
WOULD LIKE SBT tO IMPUT ON THIS ONE

The government will be spending money on the stadium and the feasibility study for the hells gate dam with the support from the Townsville City council, do some research.

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#1409754 - 27/02/2017 10:48 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Hells Gate has had numerous feasibility studies done over the decades, and now another one. Feasibility studies are another way of saying it is not going to happen. Kind of like when your parents said maybe when you were a kid. Maybe means NO in parent speak, so they don't have to deal with the fallout.

Another feasibility study is going to find exactly what they already know, and that is that the South do not want to spend that kind of money in the North where the votes are scarce in comparison.

Remember they get they get their meat and vegetables from Woolies and Coles. They magically appear on the shelves.

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#1409761 - 27/02/2017 11:41 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: slipperyfish]
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Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
Hells Gate has had numerous feasibility studies done over the decades, and now another one. Feasibility studies are another way of saying it is not going to happen. Kind of like when your parents said maybe when you were a kid. Maybe means NO in parent speak, so they don't have to deal with the fallout.

Another feasibility study is going to find exactly what they already know, and that is that the South do not want to spend that kind of money in the North where the votes are scarce in comparison.

Remember they get they get their meat and vegetables from Woolies and Coles. They magically appear on the shelves.

As for as I know all dams have feasibility studies (including the burdekin dam) before they are built, but because they have been doing the studies on hells gate since the 1930's maybe just maybe it has not been feasible so far for Sunwater to invest 2 to 3 billion on this dam. Why don't you ring up Sunwater and ask them when they are going to build it because the are the only company with the capacity to build it not Townsville City Council that's for sure. The solution is very simple - build and pay for a duplicate 35 km pipeline from Giru to Townsville. It could be completed within 12 months - a cheaper and better option than waiting 10 or 20 years for Hell Gate to be built - if at all.


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#1409774 - 27/02/2017 12:31 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
Hells Gate has had numerous feasibility studies done over the decades, and now another one. Feasibility studies are another way of saying it is not going to happen. Kind of like when your parents said maybe when you were a kid. Maybe means NO in parent speak, so they don't have to deal with the fallout.

Another feasibility study is going to find exactly what they already know, and that is that the South do not want to spend that kind of money in the North where the votes are scarce in comparison.

Remember they get they get their meat and vegetables from Woolies and Coles. They magically appear on the shelves.

As for as I know all dams have feasibility studies (including the burdekin dam) before they are built, but because they have been doing the studies on hells gate since the 1930's maybe just maybe it has not been feasible so far for Sunwater to invest 2 to 3 billion on this dam. Why don't you ring up Sunwater and ask them when they are going to build it because the are the only company with the capacity to build it not Townsville City Council that's for sure. The solution is very simple - build and pay for a duplicate 35 km pipeline from Giru to Townsville. It could be completed within 12 months - a cheaper and better option than waiting 10 or 20 years for Hell Gate to be built - if at all.


Exactly.

That is why I have made the comment that it is like a parent saying maybe. They are wasting money and time on something they are not really entertaining. I think they call it, playing politics.

The problem has become urgent as Townsville will only keep growing, so a long term project like Hells Gates will not really alleviate the issues Townsville are facing right now. Your idea of upgrading the pipeline has immediate merit, but nobody has the guts to come out and commit to it.

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#1409775 - 27/02/2017 12:51 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: slipperyfish]
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What people don't understand is the Hells Gate Dam study is about agriculture and power generation, not just water for Townsville. This is an extract from this report into the study about power transmission.
http://www.copperstring.com.au/assets/fi...nk-%20final.pdf
The Pentland scheme would be capable of providing 400 MW of base load power and an
estimated 1,000 megalitres a year of ethanol. It would require the construction of a dam on the
upper Burdekin River at Hellís Gate which will also be used to generate a further 100 MW of
hydro electricity.
Water released from the dam will then be diverted some 150 km to flat arable
land south east of Pentland to irrigate 120,000 ha of sugar cane. Two large scale ethanol plants
will then turn the cane into 1,000 mega litres of ethanol and the left over sugar cane fibre will
fuel steam electricity generators producing 400 megawatts of electricity for 16 hours a day. A
400 megawatt solar concentrator will be installed to produce steam to run the generators for
another 8 hours a day.
The timing of the project as it stands would depend on the construction of the dam at Hellís
Gate. This major water project has been under consideration for a number of years as one of a
number of options looking to develop agriculture in North Queensland through increasing the
area of land under irrigation.
The project would be in competition for funds with a proposed
upgrade to the Burdekin Falls dam and other major water programs in Queensland. A feasibility
study into a 30 MW hydro power station at the Burdekin Falls dam is also underway. The
earliest date at which construction of a dam at Hellís Gate would realistically proceed would be
early next decade.


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#1409804 - 27/02/2017 17:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Gee wizz redwatch you must work for jenny hill
Next you will be saying they planned to use the staduim money to build a dam before the stadium
Do your research lmao smile
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#1409828 - 27/02/2017 18:47 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Gee wizz redwatch you must work for jenny hill
Next you will be saying they planned to use the staduim money to build a dam before the stadium
Do your research lmao smile

What are you smoking, the stadium costs approximately 250 million and the hell's gate dam will cost between 2 to 3 billion. Townsville has got nothing to do with the building of dam, so I cannot make it any clearer that it is not about THE DAM OR THE STADIUM, funding for the dam is not impacted by whether Townsville gets a stadium or not. If this issue is going to be a political football instead of a discussion of common sense than I will not be responding to any further politicizing of this topic.


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#1409836 - 27/02/2017 19:27 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Yes the funding stream between the stadium and dam are two separate issues despite many locals complaining there is funding for a stadium and not for a dam. the feds and state have signed a city deal which links the two as a document but that is far as it gets. the federal contribution to the stadium is $100m of which the fine print also links to inner city development along side the stadium, eg boardwalks, bridges etc

the federal government has a different funding stream available in way of concessional loans to state governments, city councils or the private sector to use towards water infrastructure. what the feasibility studies into the raising of the burdekin FD and Hells gate is anyones guess. either way any approvals are years away pending funding, land acquisition and environmental procedures, just for a start. back in the 70's it took 10 years to get burdekin FD funding and work started, imagine the red tape these days.
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#1409838 - 27/02/2017 19:32 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Edited by mad mick (27/02/2017 19:33)

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#1409839 - 27/02/2017 19:39 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Mick10]
Red Watch Offline
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Thanks for clarifying that Mick10 and hopefully all projects concerning us will be completed in a timely manner....not holding my breath.


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#1409840 - 27/02/2017 19:42 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Yes mr redwatch. Reason for my last post was to get a reaction. As in the more closer you were to the politics of it all the bigger bang.
Thankyou
Question answered. Happy days
Thanks mad mick i am off to check the radar smile
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#1409844 - 27/02/2017 19:45 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Yes mr redwatch. Reason for my last post was to get a reaction. As in the more closer you were to the politics of it all the bigger bang.
Thankyou
Question answered. Happy days
Thanks mad mick i am off to check the radar smile

Ok point taken smile

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#1409847 - 27/02/2017 19:47 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: mad mick]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: mad mick

There seems to be a gap between the two main storms and I hope we don't end up being in that gap.

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#1409851 - 27/02/2017 19:51 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Good luck you lot fingers and legs crossed
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#1409855 - 27/02/2017 19:55 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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kirwan is that gap, can see rain curtain just a few km's to my west. going to miss out yet again. my grass is brown and crunchy at the end of february *sigh*
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February 2017 total - 67.2mm (283mm)
March 2017 total - 165.4mm (197mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 496.2mm (1107mm)

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#1409858 - 27/02/2017 20:11 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 246
Loc: Townsville
Far out Cranbrook ended up in the gap too.

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#1409866 - 27/02/2017 20:42 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 14/03/2010
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Loc: Townsville
Cell to the east is growing a bit getting a few sprinkles from it.

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#1409879 - 27/02/2017 21:37 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 06/12/2010
Posts: 941
Loc: Wynnum SE Brisbane
Is SBT ok havnt heard from him for yonks
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#1409881 - 27/02/2017 21:46 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
RC Offline
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Registered: 29/09/2007
Posts: 1850
Loc: near Rockhampton, Qld
Don't worry the stadium will solve all of Townsville's problems.

Us down here are getting an expanded prison and no new dam either.

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#1409885 - 27/02/2017 21:53 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 06/12/2010
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Loc: Wynnum SE Brisbane
Well done thatll dry the crims out.baahaaahaaa
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#1409912 - 28/02/2017 07:18 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 451
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Had a half decent fall last night. Was unexpected. Absolutely hammered down.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Mar 2017]: 227.4mm (Ave 330.1mm)
Feb 2017: 224.5mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 663.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1409972 - 28/02/2017 13:41 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14126
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
No rainfall recorded since last posting. But then even if anything significant had fallen I couldn't post it due to us upgrading to NBN and the utter rubbish service we are getting. 5 days offline wasn't fun but we had to wait for NBN Co to send out a tech to see what the problem was. To see what happened I have started a new topic in the Lounge and you can read about it there.

Rain gauge was on the ground this morning. Some woman who was visiting next door and reverses via the Braille method backed into the fence post for the second time in 3 weeks and it fell off its mounting so now I have to get my crowbar out to straighten up the bent galv fence post. You just can't win some days.

Are we going to have a dry season competition? We could have questions like, first day to reach single digits, lowest maximum temperature, lowest humidity, first sighting of ugh boots with shorts and a hoody, (Should I start a People Of Willows Shopping Centre photo blog?) fog on Ross River, a greater than 10mm rain event etc??
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2017 Total 485mm
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#1410009 - 28/02/2017 17:36 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
tsunami Offline
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Registered: 06/12/2010
Posts: 941
Loc: Wynnum SE Brisbane
And mr sbt. What day will the new staduim get started with the crack proof field.baahaa
While discussion about a new dam is halted due to lack of money and no water crisis.
Sorry mr red watch. Yip still on that subject
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#1410023 - 28/02/2017 18:42 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23486
Loc: Townsville
I love droughts
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#1410030 - 28/02/2017 19:10 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Tempest Offline
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Registered: 17/11/2001
Posts: 3563
Man I havnt looked at the Tvlle readings for a while, how dry has it been for you guys, I hope you get another 'night of noah' soon.

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#1410215 - 01/03/2017 18:21 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: tsunami]
Red Watch Offline
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 246
Loc: Townsville
Originally Posted By: tsunami
And mr sbt. What day will the new staduim get started with the crack proof field.baahaa
While discussion about a new dam is halted due to lack of money and no water crisis.
Sorry mr red watch. Yip still on that subject

Here ya go poke
http://www.sunwater.com.au/home/contact-us

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#1410650 - 03/03/2017 23:19 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: Dawgggg]
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Registered: 03/02/2003
Posts: 6182
Loc: Maryborough, Wide Bay, QLD
Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
I love droughts


yea we might as well get used to it.

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#1411501 - 09/03/2017 18:38 Re: North Queensland Wet Season - Cardwell to Bowen - February 2017 [Re: RC]
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Registered: 14/03/2010
Posts: 246
Loc: Townsville
Originally Posted By: RC
Don't worry the stadium will solve all of Townsville's problems.

Us down here are getting an expanded prison and no new dam either.

http://statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/asses...re-project.html

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