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#1409969 - 28/02/2017 13:30 NBN Woes, losses and wins
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We joined the 21st century after a long and protracted process that started 4 years ago. NBN Co repeatedly denied I could get connected until I sent them photos of the cable layers putting fibre optic cable in and then 4 weeks ago said I couldn't be connected for at least another 18 months. Upshot was 2 weeks ago we got an email from Telstra to say we could but it was fibre to the node and not fibre to the premises. Meh what ever at least we are connected.

So last Tuesday we had the switch over from ADSL2+ to FTTN and had nothing but issues. seeds dropped from 24mbps to 230kps between 2.00pm to 1.00am every day. then the modem would randomly just drop the connection completely without warning and stay offline for 7 to 12 hours rejoining for 15 minutes and then dropping out again. So 2 hours of phone calls finally resulted in NBN Co sending out a tech this morning who found the following issues.
1) We had 2 phone extensions 1 in a bedroom and another in the office. These have to be physically removed as the incoming signal splits between the 3 connection even if only 1 has a modem connected.
2) Some fumble fingered fwit borked the jumpering at the node with some wiring being crossed and causing a loop back (which was why it was constantly dropping out) but that's now fixed and hopefully we don't have anymore issues.
So to say it was a painless process was an utter lie from Telstra.
The initial setup of the F@st 5355 modem via the included picture install guide was pretty straight forward but they don't include the modem password which I guessed was either password, nothing or admin. Admin (all lower case letters) was the right one. The wireless setup was easy and connecting our old but still functional wireless Telstra phone went without a hitch. Please be aware that Telstra do not supply a manual for the modem and they don't have one on line either. Which is a pain in the bum when you want to so things like enabling static IP's bridging etc.

So we signed up for the speed boost which is supposed to be 100mpbs download and 40mpbs upload. In reality they don't guaranty any speeds due to shonky back end equipment courtesy of various political parties mucking with the technology. Yes Labor and Lib/Nat's have fingers in the pie and delivered something but not what should have been. Supposedly this will improve in the next 12 to 18 months as better equipment is rolled out.

Pros and cons
Pros when its working is great for watching Netflix, gaming and of not too many people are using it at home at the same time we get a reasonable quality of service.

Cons
Biggest 1 is when you loose connectivity/power you lose you landline phone. (With the problems we had over the last 5 days we had 9 messages saying various doctors etc couldn't contact us but for some reason didn't bother ringing us on our mobile phones), all sorted now.


Telstra Speed Test

So line testing gives me a reading of 24.2mpbs download and 4.7mpbs upload with less than 1% packet loss and 26ms latency which is fine for most online gaming. Am I happy with what I ended up with? Too early to tell as I haven't had a decent amount of time to reach a proper conclusion but with these miniscule speeds it will impact on watching say 4000k TV (we don't have one . . . yet) but for normal surfing, watching YouTube and a bit of gaming its fine so far.
Stay tuned for more developments.
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#1409971 - 28/02/2017 13:41 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The NBN has been pretty good for my area which, despite being urban, used to have terrible internet.

Dapto and surrounds was one of the first places in Australia to get NBN so I think it has been around for about 2 maybe even 3 years now, but my household only just got it fairly recently. It is about 65mbps download according my mobile phone which is very nice and we can easily watch youtube at 1080p without an issue and do online gaming as well. But we have had a few problems lately with a faulty router (that's not the NBN's fault) and also random network outages. Old ADSL internet ran at about 11mbps. The optus wireless broadband dial up used to be about 1mbps very early in the morning (2 or 3am) but usually it was between 250 and 500kbps which was a nightmare.
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#1409976 - 28/02/2017 14:21 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I'm on FTTP (Fibre to the Premises) in Townsville and constantly get speeds close to the 100/40 I'm paying Telstra for.

SBT, if you're only getting 25/5 and paying for 100/40, I'd ask Telstra to remove the speed boost and just pay for 25/5.
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#1409989 - 28/02/2017 16:23 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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To me it looks like the plan is 25 down 5 up because of the latency. If you were on the 100 down 40 up and getting those speeds you would have a lot higher latency.

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#1410025 - 28/02/2017 18:53 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I am getting 18-19ms latency on my 100/40 connection, I live in the same city that SBT does using the same provider.
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#1410027 - 28/02/2017 19:01 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Raindammit]
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Originally Posted By: Raindammit
I am getting 18-19ms latency on my 100/40 connection, I live in the same city that SBT does using the same provider.

I get 19ms from Telstra FTTP in Cranbrook, FTTN still uses copper from the node to the premises terminating at a VDSL modem. FTTN will get a bit higher latency than FTTP because of the copper and my old ADSL latency used to be over 60ms as far as I can remember from the same premises.


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#1410066 - 28/02/2017 21:00 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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As far as I can find out the difference in ping between FTTN and FTTP is about 5ms but it is also dependent how far from the node you are and how good the copper connection is. The ping is also worse the further you are from your ISP server, some people in capital cities can get 1ms ping from FTTP.

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#1410205 - 01/03/2017 17:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I loved it (only joking) that we got a letter saying we can connect to the NBN.

WTF? Telstra couldn't maintain a simple landline when we had it connected when we had a phone at the house, let alone having dial up speeds for internet and constantly dropping out.

Anyways, looking at what they were saying we can get connected to, was a "fixed wireless" connection. Knowing where that particular tower is to me is a very good direct line of sight, but the price? Nothing under $60 per month.

For the amount of internet I use, it is not worth the bother, as I get 1GB with my mobile, also a 2nd pre-paid sim card primarily just for data when in very remote locations, and have just a prepaid mobile wireless device at home which and I can take the device wherever I want. I don't need downloads to watch movies or anything else. Just for the occasional web browsing, and if I need to download stuff, work is a good place to do it - costs nothing!!

Being connected to the internet is not death or life to me, as I have plenty to do in life let alone doing nothing.

But I have a friend who does work with the NBNCo, and he says we are not going to experience any good speeds Australia wide until all the old existing exchanges have been unplugged. Otherwise, the network will get bottled necked and eventually crash it if they ramped it up to full speed, and at the moment, most places are only running at 25% speed capacity until the old systems have been disconnected. After that, we should then see a marked improvement on connection speeds throughout the country.

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#1410218 - 01/03/2017 18:44 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: J Pabo]
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Yea from what I have read some people on fixed wireless which is capable of 25/5Mbps are getting worse performance than their ADSL they had before it. Even FTTN is a better choice because what people don't realize is wireless is affected by bandwidth overload, electrical interference and distance from the tower. But if that is all you are offered you might be better of staying with your mobile broadband.


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#1410220 - 01/03/2017 18:52 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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FTTN was outdated even before the Murdoch goverment announced it. I'll be keeping my adsl 2.
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#1410223 - 01/03/2017 19:01 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
FTTN was outdated even before the Murdoch goverment announced it. I'll be keeping my adsl 2.

Yea I was lucky enough to get FTTP in Cranbrook and when NBN offer 1Gbps speeds at least I will have the choice to have it or not. But if you have a choice between FTTN and wireless the FTTN would be better as long as your copper connection was good. Don't forget ADSL will be turned off in areas that are NBN ready, I think the time frame is 18 months.


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#1410224 - 01/03/2017 19:18 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I just got my internet reconnected today after moving house nearly two weeks ago and I have just done that speed test that SBT put up. Knowing that I have slow internet generally, but how do these figures stack up.
Download speed 0.65 Mbps
Upload speed 0.05 Mbps
Latency 287 ms
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#1410227 - 01/03/2017 19:41 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
FTTN was outdated even before the Murdoch goverment announced it. I'll be keeping my adsl 2.

Yea I was lucky enough to get FTTP in Cranbrook and when NBN offer 1Gbps speeds at least I will have the choice to have it or not. But if you have a choice between FTTN and wireless the FTTN would be better as long as your copper connection was good. Don't forget ADSL will be turned off in areas that are NBN ready, I think the time frame is 18 months.


The problem is that much of the copper is in poor condition. Something telstra themselves made a lot of noise about until the fttp was scrapped. Suddenly it was in perfect condition and worth $11 Billion.
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#1410236 - 01/03/2017 20:11 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yep,no one is keeping ADSL (eventually). We have adjusted to ADSL after moving from the city and cable broadband. It took two months to get it to stop dropping out constantly. Pretty stable now. No faith in NBN changeover not being a huge drama but told we have no choice to stay with ADSL. Just used the link SBT supplied and got 5.66 down and 0.85 upload.

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#1410283 - 02/03/2017 08:45 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I usually keep on our internet connection we have at work from time to time, mainly because we have external offices that connect to our server where we are, also we have IP phones as well.

We have a 10/10Mbps configuration with 4 x ADSL2 lines to our office. Generally it is not too bad, but we have to sacrifice our download speed to have a high steady upload speed.

I have just checked with my phone on both sim cards and have the following results

TPG (100% Reception)- 3.45/4.07 Mbps
Telstra (40% Reception)- 12.05/12.20 Mbps (even though at the very end it resulted in 24.04Mbps - but I just look at the average)

As you can see, the air is just as good if not better then 4 copper lines.

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#1410342 - 02/03/2017 14:56 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
I just got my internet reconnected today after moving house nearly two weeks ago and I have just done that speed test that SBT put up. Knowing that I have slow internet generally, but how do these figures stack up.
Download speed 0.65 Mbps
Upload speed 0.05 Mbps
Latency 287 ms

Is that ADSL because that is about 5 times faster than dial up.

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#1410348 - 02/03/2017 15:18 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: EddyG
I just got my internet reconnected today after moving house nearly two weeks ago and I have just done that speed test that SBT put up. Knowing that I have slow internet generally, but how do these figures stack up.
Download speed 0.65 Mbps
Upload speed 0.05 Mbps
Latency 287 ms

Is that ADSL because that is about 5 times faster than dial up.


Yes.

Forgot to mention that at the first attempt at the speed test it timed out on me!!! eek
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#1410361 - 02/03/2017 16:41 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: EddyG]
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Make sure you have a splitter on the phone line where the phone and ADSL are connected and ring your ISP and they should do a line test to check for a bad connection.
https://www.tpg.com.au/support/filter_guide.php


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#1410378 - 02/03/2017 17:34 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I have a 25/5 Mbps connection through FTTP and my last test was

Download speed 23.59 Mbps
Upload speed 4.86 Mbps
Latency 17 ms

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#1410384 - 02/03/2017 18:01 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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SBT I read a report from 2014 users of the FTTN network will not receive speed guarantees beyond 25 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up - similar to the maximum performance under ideal line conditions of today's ADSL2+ service.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-drops-speed-guarantees-for-fttn-service-382817


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#1410660 - 04/03/2017 06:56 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I have FTTP and when I first got it it was brilliant (95 Mbps down load and 35 up) then came months of crap and fights with Westnet/iiNet with speeds of ..05 Mbps at peak times due to congestion. Back to great speeds now. The problem is that the the nbn is not national. The isps still have to get the signal to a POI ( point of intersection) before the signal is actually on the nbn and that relies on the same old infrastructure. The politicians had a hand in this as well originally there were going to be about 50 pois but it was cheaper to put in about 200 and make the isps get the signal to them.
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#1410670 - 04/03/2017 09:29 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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My test on ADSL cam up with 8.98 down, 0.61 up, 39ms latency. My problem is the home phone has been blinking 'in use' since December. Told telstra in Dec and still haven't had a reply. Which reminds me, off to notify ombudsman. Again.
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#1410678 - 04/03/2017 09:58 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Something i noticed out here we would get noise on the phone line ,copper then later the internet would go maybe a month later .So now if we get noise on the line we call them and say its bad can not hear anyone [lie] lol ,Then they come and fix line before it does quit . Interesting to see the scope they use you can see the noise of other connections and he said the fault noise was 250 mts away went up the street came back 10 mins later all fixed .


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#1410932 - 05/03/2017 14:50 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I was connected FTTN last November. With Telescum and paying for a boost to 50mbps, get 49 if I test a 2am on a Monday night. Actually 80% of the time its good. When its poor it is back to slower than ADSL2.
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#1411016 - 05/03/2017 21:07 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ozthunder]
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder
I was connected FTTN last November. With Telescum and paying for a boost to 50mbps, get 49 if I test a 2am on a Monday night. Actually 80% of the time its good. When its poor it is back to slower than ADSL2.

http://www.telescum.co.nz/

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#1411660 - 10/03/2017 22:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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I have a 3g/4g Multi Wan Router which you plug in a usb adapter for it to work, the trick is to use a usb extension lead with the adapter on the end near the window to get a better signal. It is my backup in case of NBN going down and has been used once already when they shut down my service for 2 weeks to move the phone from VOIP to the NBN dedicated phone socket which Telstra let you use but not Optus, they still have to use VOIP if they want a land line. By the way I have fiber to the premises with 25/5 speed.


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#1413324 - 19/03/2017 09:51 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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First major FTTN NBN test over last week as we have had a deluge of rain. Verdict - fail. Speeds at times back to slow ADSL. On Friday night was constantly buffering a 0.7GB Poxtel stream.

Outside peak and in ideal weather it works well, but this area is prone to the occasional flash flood.
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#1419266 - 30/03/2017 01:33 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Interesting development where I live.

NBN recently became available to my area. Before this I could get download speeds on ADSL2 of up to 1.7mb/s, which was easily enough to stream full HD. It NEVER cut out and was highly reliable, no issues at all.

Now since the NBN became available this same adsl2 service has become in all honesty completely useless. I've had better service in remote areas of third world countries and it was free.

I reckon the internet cuts out over 20 times a day now, this isn't even an exaggeration. It has gotten to the point where it cuts in and out every 10-30 minutes it seems. During the time it does work I can't even stream 480p anymore. Sometimes it is slower than dialup I reckon, not even kidding. Maybe 5-10% out of a day can I stream HD anymore. We've already had one router crap itself, I'd hedge my bets as a direct result.

I thought maybe it was just us, a dodgy connection somewhere...nope I know of 5 other people already just asking a few people who have the exact same issues.

Why are they even bothering to allow ADSL2 to continue for 18 months or whetever it is (can someone correct me here if necessary), I'm wondering whether they're just trying to force people to switch. We will obviously eventually switch, but FFS I'm not hearing many positives about the NBN in this area either which is hardly encouraging. It's all one big joke.

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#1420214 - 31/03/2017 17:02 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yes I think they may be trying to force people to switch. My adsl has been up and down for a few weeks now also.They tried to blame my line filter first.
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#1420226 - 31/03/2017 17:44 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Yes I think they may be trying to force people to switch. My adsl has been up and down for a few weeks now also.They tried to blame my line filter first.


Which has been working efficiently for some years I'm guessing CF, while NBN is "supposed" to be available here we are not going there, rather slow ADSL than all the NBN problems one reads of.

Maybe in a couple of years.
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#1420244 - 31/03/2017 20:17 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz

Which has been working efficiently for some years I'm guessing CF


Yeah it was.I put a new one in just in case and it fixed nothing. Plenty of people locally are slamming telstra at the moment for slow adsl 2.
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#1420246 - 31/03/2017 20:23 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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We have had NBN FTTP with Internode since January 2015. To date it has worked faultlessly. We are on the 25/5 plan with typical speeds of 22-24Mbit down and 4.5-4.7Mbit up. This is very consistent even in peak periods. This is ample speed for our needs. My wife can be watching Netflix, our son playing online games and me browsing the web simultaneously with no perceptible degradation.

Prior to the NBN we had ADSL2 also with Internode. We had our share of line faults causing dropouts and speed reductions but overall we were getting 4-5Mbits down 99.9% of the time. Ironically a few weeks prior to the NBN we had a line fault which turned out to be corroded connections in the pit on our footpath. After this was fixed we had the fastest ADSL speed we had ever had, 6Mbits.
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#1420317 - 01/04/2017 10:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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OOKLA speed test just now, ADSL Telstra landline -

Download 0.94 Mbps, Upload 0.31 Mbps.

Been 1/3rd that speed over the years, but at least it works
most of the time.
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#1420366 - 01/04/2017 17:18 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Did that speed test as finally we have gone about 12 hours back to 'normal' download speeds without dropouts.

15ms ping
12.12Mbps download
0.85Mbps upload

Telstra ADSL2

Can't find an explantion as to why it was so dodgy the last few weeks, hopefully stabilises now.
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#1421954 - 22/04/2017 09:25 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Our ADSL has crashed in the last 4 days. Just run the test, 1.89 down 0.07 up and latency 291. When I last posted in early March it was comfortably over 5 and recently observed a 6 download speed but for 4 days just [censored]. Coincidentally we are getting bombarded with NBN ads in the mailbox.
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#1421971 - 22/04/2017 14:55 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Ruckle]
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Originally Posted By: Ruckle
Our ADSL has crashed in the last 4 days. Just run the test, 1.89 down 0.07 up and latency 291. When I last posted in early March it was comfortably over 5 and recently observed a 6 download speed but for 4 days just [censored]. Coincidentally we are getting bombarded with NBN ads in the mailbox.


Same thing happened in Bundaberg before the roll out. Funny that.
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#1421975 - 22/04/2017 17:10 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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We dream of 1.89 D/L........ grin
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#1422792 - 05/05/2017 07:33 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I'll just wait until Spacex has its satellite constellation up and the NBN is rendered obsolete.

https://www.rt.com/viral/387159-spacex-satellite-constellation-launch/
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#1422823 - 05/05/2017 21:43 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Not sure what ADSL speeds have to do with this thread as it will be all replaced by the NBN. The only issue I have with the NBN is FTTN at it is still using copper.

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#1422832 - 06/05/2017 10:05 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Locke]
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Originally Posted By: Locke
I'll just wait until Spacex has its satellite constellation up and the NBN is rendered obsolete.

https://www.rt.com/viral/387159-spacex-satellite-constellation-launch/


Satellite is not the answer...talk to anyone on Skymuster already..I have Foxtel and Vast for free to air TV...absolute rubbish during the wet season up here...I can tell when a heavy shower is going to hit well before I hear it..

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#1424483 - 28/05/2017 12:08 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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#1424503 - 28/05/2017 17:34 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Ronfishes]
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One sure sign that the FTTN part of NBN is crap?

Answer:
NBN Co is spending millions in advertising promoting it. TV, Newspapers, Internet.

As with much of politics today it is about getting the gullible sections of the public to change their "perception". It is not the product that is the problem, it is the perception.

These days it is all about perception with the politicians, corporation and government agency CEO's. Beware of words like "solution", "world leading", global","caring","personal"
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#1425964 - 14/06/2017 15:13 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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So apparently the part of our street which is still on ADSL 2 will be without a working landline and internet for up to 3 months. It goes like this:

- December 2016 - Had the street ripped up by a mob called Civil Engineering to renew water pipes. Landline & internet stopped working. Called ISP, Telstra tech came to fix, but experienced frequent droppouts since

March 2017 - Internet and landline suddenly stopped working altogether. Suspected it was related to the above. Telstra tech came out and fixed it again

Today - No landline or internet since Monday. Telstra tech came out, however this guy was more helpful than the others. He confessed the old copper line running through this part of the street is old and corroded and there's no spares left. Apparently can take up to 3 months for Telstra to get off their useless asses and replace it. While the incident started after Civil Engineering rolled through the street, from the sounds of it, this was going to happen sooner rather than later anyway given the degradation of the infrastructure.

And you wonder why we wanted to get off the old copper network.

So angry right now, to the people who still endorse this failed NBN.co project to the idiots in government who set out to destroy the old fibre implementation of the NBN. Thanks a lot for ruining it for everyone else.

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#1426000 - 14/06/2017 19:58 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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My daughter has just moved into a new place and has discovered she has no internet. That may be acceptable in Antarctica but surely not in SYDNEY !!!!

Yep Mega, it is a sick joke and these morons had the nerve to attack Labor over it.
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#1426069 - 15/06/2017 16:31 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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Originally Posted By: Mega
confessed the old copper line running through this part of the street is old and corroded and there's no spares left


Wrong, the coalition thinks that copper was worth $11 billion of tax payers money.

There never make a mistake.
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#1426071 - 15/06/2017 17:32 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ozthunder]
Mega Offline
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder
Originally Posted By: Mega
confessed the old copper line running through this part of the street is old and corroded and there's no spares left


Wrong, the coalition thinks that copper was worth $11 billion of tax payers money.

There never make a mistake.


Tell me about it. Seeing stuff like this makes me sick: https://delimiter.com.au/2012/05/01/worst-of-the-worst-photos-of-australias-copper-network/

It's disgusting and unforgivable. But for some reason the government doesn't cop anywhere near as much flak as it should for such an atrocity.

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#1426139 - 16/06/2017 18:22 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I wonder what will happen when 1 Gigabit speed become commonplace and FTTN customers will be left in the cyber dust.
https://www.cio.com.au/article/620031/launceston-nbn-10-times-faster-than-everyone-else/

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#1426140 - 16/06/2017 18:54 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I am still doing so well on download speed. 0.98 mbps tonight.

But when in Brisvegas using my mobile phone as a modem I got 49.52 mbps.

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#1426142 - 16/06/2017 19:15 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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Originally Posted By: bundybear
I am still doing so well on download speed. 0.98 mbps tonight.

But when in Brisvegas using my mobile phone as a modem I got 49.52 mbps.


Sorry BB, to convince readers of your utilisation of "49.52mbps" pls prove the nimbleness of mind to work at that Olympic pace....... grin

Our good days are like yrs, 0.98 if yr lucky, I'm flat out finding keys at that speed...lol
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#1426143 - 16/06/2017 19:16 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Bldy service dropped out for 10 minutes trying to get the above posted, been bad lately !!!

Restarted it once also in the last 1/2 hr.... mad
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#1426144 - 16/06/2017 19:23 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Originally Posted By: bundybear
I am still doing so well on download speed. 0.98 mbps tonight.

But when in Brisvegas using my mobile phone as a modem I got 49.52 mbps.


Sorry BB, to convince readers of your utilisation of "49.52mbps" pls prove the nimbleness of mind to work at that Olympic pace....... grin

Our good days are like yrs, 0.98 if yr lucky, I'm flat out finding keys at that speed...lol


I couldn't believe my eyes. I would click a page and it opened before I had time to make a cup of coffee. I am use to having at least half an hour reading the news headlines a morning. It only took me a matter of minutes. I am sure I could adjust to fast internet. grin

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#1426145 - 16/06/2017 19:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Bldy service dropped out for 10 minutes trying to get the above posted, been bad lately !!!

Restarted it once also in the last 1/2 hr.... mad

Are you living down the road from me? For the last week mine just disappears then reappears. I wonder what they do with it?

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#1426146 - 16/06/2017 19:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Here is my speed tests. Those that are sitting on "Are you kidding me" are pretty common.


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#1426162 - 17/06/2017 08:45 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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Proceed with caution BB, the sheer speed of events could be mind boggling, if it was to happen here the rush into the 21st century could take us years to recover. grin


Edited by samboz (17/06/2017 08:47)
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#1426166 - 17/06/2017 09:21 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Lol, Good one Samboz.
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#1426219 - 18/06/2017 05:37 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Just an update...driving home saw a Telstra van parked up the road, one Telstra guy located at one pit and another guy at another. According to them, our problem should be fixed within the week but we'll see. They have to dig up part of the street and replace the copper cable which is corroded. He laughed when we told him the Telstra contractor that came out a few days ago said it'd be 3 months, but we'll see.

btw - http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Busi..._List?id=EN0246 - spread it around.

yeah it's too late I know but it's better than doing nothing i suppose.

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#1426228 - 18/06/2017 14:53 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
Red Watch Offline
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I am on Telstra FTTP 25 down, 5 up in Townsville and consistently get around.....

PING
17 ms
DOWNLOAD
23.89 Mbps
UPLOAD
4.81 Mbps

And also these results are taken while three other adults in my house are using the internet, and it looks like I will be part of the 22% of Australians who will be fortunate enough to have FTTP. Something needs to be done to ensure the other 78% of Australians have similar results.

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#1426232 - 18/06/2017 15:49 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
I am on Telstra FTTP 25 down, 5 up in Townsville and consistently get around.....

PING
17 ms
DOWNLOAD
23.89 Mbps
UPLOAD
4.81 Mbps

And also these results are taken while three other adults in my house are using the internet, and it looks like I will be part of the 22% of Australians who will be fortunate enough to have FTTP. Something needs to be done to ensure the other 78% of Australians have similar results.


Nah, Nah, Nah - CF said...................................................................!
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#1426572 - 23/06/2017 17:47 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
Red Watch Offline
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New Zealand will have 80% FTTP compared to our 20% coverage and this is from one of their broadband retailers called Stuff Fibre........what a joke Australia's broadband is.


$89.50
per month
Unlimited data, 100 Mbps speeds
No set up costs, just plug in and play
Gigabit router, no additional cost
No fixed contracts, best price always
Local support, ready to help
30 day money back guarantee

$114.50
per month
Unlimited data, up to 950Mbps+
No set up costs, just plug in and play
Gigabit router, no additional cost
No fixed contracts, best price always
Local support, ready to help
30 day money back guarantee

https://www.stuff-fibre.co.nz/


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#1426575 - 23/06/2017 18:38 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Originally Posted By: Red Watch
I am on Telstra FTTP 25 down, 5 up in Townsville and consistently get around.....

PING
17 ms
DOWNLOAD
23.89 Mbps
UPLOAD
4.81 Mbps


And also these results are taken while three other adults in my house are using the internet, and it looks like I will be part of the 22% of Australians who will be fortunate enough to have FTTP. Something needs to be done to ensure the other 78% of Australians have similar results.


Nah, Nah, Nah - CF said...................................................................!


The daily criticism of this joke of a broadband network speaks for itself. Clearly you didn't read the post Redwatch made correctly Samboz. He said fttp. That was signed off under Labor wink

It is this government's fttn that is causing all the issues. Hence why there are calls for a national enquiry. The Coalition government you love so dearly has sold this country down the toilet to look after party donators.
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#1426581 - 23/06/2017 19:50 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Lucky New Zild with their high speed broadband.

Our Prime Minister Lord Wentworth, prefers Australians to suffer with last century's technology. All while he heavily invested in fttp in Europe with France's Telecom and Spain's Telefonica.

Lord Wentworth is a hypocritical Fascist, in a class of his own ... and he has the dumb bunnies who vote conservative wrapped around his adoring little finger.

This country has gone to the dogs ... understandably, when led by a dog.

Warren.

PS, the banks are squealing pigs with their fraction of a cent increase in tax ... the poor little squealing piggies. They really are disgusting.


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#1426656 - 25/06/2017 20:04 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Been offline for a week and the place goes crazy, Ww you don't know how well off you are compared to the citizenry of most of the world.

"Fascist" - LOL, & in a cell if it that were the case grin

Line fault for the last week, zilch ADSL & land line.

Happy to be back on line, even at 0.84 Mbps tonight.
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#1426671 - 26/06/2017 08:25 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Zilch ADSL? That's probably NBN Co grooming you to switch to their mess 😉
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#1426715 - 26/06/2017 21:52 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Locals to scared to change to NBN, most hanging in with ADSL even at slow speeds.

Must say that "grooming" has crossed the mind on occasion CF grin
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#1426737 - 27/06/2017 09:38 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Locals to scared to change to NBN, most hanging in with ADSL even at slow speeds.

Must say that "grooming" has crossed the mind on occasion CF grin


That is what I am doing. Hanging in there. Hoping for the best.

Grooming has crossed my mind more than once. I still have no idea what I will do if they cut off my adsl.

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#1426750 - 27/06/2017 13:02 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Had a line fault last week reported it on Sunday morning to Telstra had crossed lines on phone the internet was fine maybe a little slower ,Got asked to answer some questions ,I said OK few basic questions on service said it was OK .Had phone tech after lunch Monday lol. She had been doing NBN roll out and was surprised to be put on this job .Seems like you say something nice you get fast service lol.Could be grooming lol.
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#1427980 - 14/07/2017 06:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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NBN pulled their own ad from YouTube:

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/nbn-pulled-their-own-ad-from-youtube/

LOL, because we all love 600ms ping.

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#1427992 - 14/07/2017 11:09 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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I have been off line for 3 weeks thanks to Telstra!
Had no internet, so rang the Phillipino/indian call centre, basically she said yes there is a fault on your line and that they could not do anything and to ring the faults line.....also my "personal deatails" did not match what they had on their system "so i should just pop into my nearest Telstra shop and show them my licence!?" (WTF? i should just toddle 130 ks to a Telstra shop in Cairns to show my licence? nup, not gunna happen.

When i got off the phone the Internet (strangely) was working again....until the next day when it would just not connect.

Rang the Phillipino/indian chop shop again.. was told yes you have a fault, they will come in 2 days to fix it.2 days later a "sub contractor" appeared and i showed him to where the various pits are around our property. He came up to my house about 1/2 an hour later (coughing up a lung and slagging every 30 seconds while he was there) told me the line from the road to the pit was fine, so he will check the pit on the neighbours property.

After about an hour i checked the phone and it was dead, checked again another 1/2 an hour later still dead, so i went to see how he was going.

Lo and behold he is no longer there, thought maybe he went for lunch, so waited another hour, still nothing so thought eff that, and went to the payphone in town to find out what was going on...Rang the Phillipino/indian chop shop again.. only to be told that my fault was now fixed and the case closed! After a quick fire outburst assuring her that it was not fixed, she agreed to test the line, tried 2 tests and claimed that they were fine, the third test she comes back with, "did you leave the phone off the hook when you left the house?" "no i did not, the phone is DEAD!" she then told me that the phone line is coming back with an engaged signal, and that if i want some one to look at the line again it would cost me $130! WTF not likely! after some quick fire abuse and telling her why should i have to pay $130 to fix something that your guys have effed up!

Anyway because it was Friday, no one would be there until Monday to fix it, so make sure that you are at home for their beck and call...

Monday comes an actual Telstra tech turns up, checks the pit and straight away has a chuckle, "oh it would appear old mate must have had a bad day, he wired the exchange wire back on themselves (hence the engaged signal! )

The Tech cuts the wire checks the line and says hmm, the line is still scratchy, leave it with me, it may take me a while. My kids were walking down the road and saw him leave.... a few hours later sill no phone, still no tech, leave it a bit longer...and still the same... AHHH EFFF back down the phone box and Rang the Phillipino/indian chop shop again.. was told by the call centre guy that they did not know what was happening and, will place you on hold, 10 mins later, still don't know, round and round we go, and 1 hour later he informs me someone will be there within 24hrs to fix problem.

24hrs later no one shows. Back down the phone box and Rang the Phillipino/indian chop shop again.. ring them and straight away asked to speak to a supervisor.... 1000 apologies flowed from their back passage, but still they did not know what was going on, she kindly informed me that she would send me a mobile phone in 2 days time to use as a stop gap, to which i kindly informed her mobile phones do not work where i live and we cannot get reception!

Anyway 1 1/2 hours (i was put on hold for 20+ minutes!) later i was told and told "yes someone will be there by Friday to fix the problem, as now it was a much more complex issue and needed a higher level up tech to come and fix the problem.

You can guess what happens next....yep sure enough Friday came and 5pm still no Telstra B@#%^%D had shown, back down the phone box and Rang the Phillipino/indian chop shop AGAIN..

I requested to speak to a supervisor again.....was placed on hold for 10 mins whent thru an endless ringing loop, then was met with a recorded message saying, was your query resolved today? if yes simply hang up, if no stay on the line...5 mins later, thank you for calling Telstra beep,beeep,beeep, Rang again, same shyte got put on hold again, and after 10 mins the witch hung up on me! back again for the 3rd time and this time no one would pick up the phone so after 10 mins, i hung up ant tried AGAIN, this time instead of entering my phone no, i just said faults each time the recorded message came on, and lo and behold i got straight thru! again i asked to speak to a supervisor, Again 1000 apologies flowed from there back passage.

I was then kindly informed that they tried to ring me the previous day and that now they would not be able to make it for another 11 days!!! whaaaaaat!! how in the hell can you ring me when i don't have a working phone? again round the merry go round we go, bang your head against the wall, “the issue is so complex that they need a higher again tech, and he can't make it until then....”

"As a stop gap though, i can offer you a satellite phone, the Telstra tech will be there on Monday to install it for you" "Bullshyte" was my reply, "Oh,no trust me, he will be there, trust me" again he got some more bulls excrement ... Trust me trust me, blah blah blah he will be there .Another and a half hours of my life wasted in a phone box!

Anyone want to guess what happened next? you got it! Monday came, Monday went not one b^%$#Rd from Telstra showed!

To cut a long story short after 12 phone calls and many, many hours on the phone, they finally fixed the line (3 weeks after reporting it) All he did was switch a dodgy section of cable for another set that was not being used!

Moral of the story Telstra sux! Mobiles are not an option here as we can't get reception, the NBN? hmm that is fixed wireless, neighbours about 500mtrs can get it, they say the internet is ok, but the phone is rubbish as it keeps dropping out all the time (even on sunny days)

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#1427996 - 14/07/2017 12:09 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Man that would have drove me insane .
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#1428001 - 14/07/2017 14:07 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Can I congratulate you Ys on your patience and tribulation endurance........bstds must go home and chat about the Aussie they led up the garden path that day.

I love the "we tried to ring you to let you know" sort of message, I am convinced that the R hand does not know what the L hand is doing with Telstra.

My other favourite is reporting a ADSL total drop out online as they suggest...........is it to early for a booze....lol... grin
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#1428004 - 14/07/2017 14:57 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
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Yeah, it is the same as them telling you to go online and look at their website!? ah? hello? no phone line no internet!
I did tell one of the so and so's there that "it is funny how you see all the signs around saying "Telstra, it's how we connect? well Telstra couldn't connect to their own A$#@oles"

I am surprised that he didn't hang up on me! Basically all they do is tell you lies, just tell you want you want to hear, Oh, yes some one will be there within the next 24 hrs, that way it get's you off their hands and you become someone else's problem.

You can hear them typing away as you are talking to them, probably typing silly little Aussie is getting very aggressive, be aware, keep him on hold for longer......flag the number so when he enters it no one picks up.

Yes, it is very frustrating dealing with Telstra ozone doug!
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#1428278 - 18/07/2017 09:44 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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NBN AIDS INTERNET PIRATES

and so the headline on the almost full page article in Sydney's Daily Telegraph reads today. Complete with a Game of Thrones picture.

Another Murdoch propaganda piece, pointing indirectly to lost Poxtel revenues.

Well Mr Murdoch Australia's pay TV is riddled with ads, repeats things over and over and costs a ridiculous price compared to most other countries. Fix that and you may get more subscribers.

Nope easier to call in the favours with the Coalition.

Murdoch has been a constant lobbyist with the coalition against FTTH, and has been a factor in our FTTN stuff up. Not to mention buying corroded copper off Telstra for $11B.
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#1428363 - 18/07/2017 19:55 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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"You can hear them typing away as you are talking to them, probably typing silly little Aussie is getting very aggressive, be aware, keep him on hold for longer......flag the number so when he enters it no one picks up." Good one Yasi smile

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#1428594 - 21/07/2017 17:35 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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RE NBN Grooming - Nah, wouldn't happen would it....lol

Lost the local ADSL/phone copper line for a whole week in late June, been a bit iffy since but yesterday dropped out completely maybe six times.

Reported same to Faults Telstra....among the disgraceful BS the other end was, (1) You need a new modem if its 18 months old
(2) We have an alternative, NBN has a tower near you, because you are too far from the exchange you need to look at that alternative.(3)ADSL2 is available also.

After some further discussion that included much stuffing around by them over 44 minutes we finished with "Just let linesmen know to fix it, this happens quite often, we are wasting my time going around in circles discussing NBN, line speed etc. ADSL2 -don't waste my time!!!!

And guess what, in the RMB (Roadside Mail Box) this morning was a iiNet NBN Satellite flyer.

Grooming, nah, wouldn't happen!!!! grin


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#1428597 - 21/07/2017 17:59 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Welcome to the real world . There have been countless complaints the same as yours. Assuming of course you are serious. There are calls for a senate enquiry into alleged grooming.
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#1428613 - 21/07/2017 21:08 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I just don't get why, when we are spending so many tax payers dollars on a "supposedly" superfast and super reliable internet delivery system, that so many are having problems.
I run my own business, and there's no way I could go 3 weeks without it. That would have me on a knife edge.

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#1428873 - 25/07/2017 20:03 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I got one of those iiNet NBN Satellite flyers and I am on FTTP and eventually all the ADSL will be turned off as it would not be viable to keep spending money on it for a small percentage of the population. FTTN is a waste of money and used with degraded copper causes connection and speed problems. Plus ISPs offering cheaper prices don't buy enough bandwidth off NBN which causes slower speeds in busier times of the day.

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#1428874 - 25/07/2017 20:08 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
I got one of those iiNet NBN Satellite flyers and I am on FTTP and eventually all the ADSL will be turned off as it would not be viable to keep spending money on it for a small percentage of the population. FTTN is a waste of money and used with degraded copper causes connection and speed problems. Plus ISPs offering cheaper prices don't buy enough bandwidth off NBN which causes slower speeds in busier times of the day.


Yep, a gross waste of money. These clowns should be rolling out a minimum of FTTC but even better they should admit they have stuffed it and finish the FTTP as it should have been all along. Especially as the price has halved since Rudd first proposed it.

Of course the kicker is that they have to first admit they have stuffed it up and that won't happen before hell freezes over.
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#1429084 - 28/07/2017 14:04 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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In Typical Telstra style i received a letter from them outlining their latest proposal to increase my home line rental charges by an extra $2 a month from the first of October, hmm coincidentally exactly the same day they are supposed to shut the Broadband ADSL down in our area.

I have looked into the NBN and Spintel seems reasonable, (and you don't have to go on a contract if you don't want to...) you even get a phone connection for $49 a month and .10 local and national calls, when you compare it to Telscums $109 a month for the same thing and they charge like a wounded bull for national calls.

So i may give it a go while i still have Tescum as a backup.

Scott, you may want to think of something similar, as at this point in time you can get free installation for the NBN/ antenna, after the end of September the buggers will charge you for installations, and from what i have read it is about $300?
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#1429112 - 28/07/2017 20:09 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The Un-Australian is running a story today with the headline reading "Dud NBN creating millions of angry voters".
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#1429127 - 28/07/2017 22:13 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
In Typical Telstra style i received a letter from them outlining their latest proposal to increase my home line rental charges by an extra $2 a month from the first of October, hmm coincidentally exactly the same day they are supposed to shut the Broadband ADSL down in our area.

I have looked into the NBN and Spintel seems reasonable, (and you don't have to go on a contract if you don't want to...) you even get a phone connection for $49 a month and .10 local and national calls, when you compare it to Telscums $109 a month for the same thing and they charge like a wounded bull for national calls.

So i may give it a go while i still have Tescum as a backup.

Scott, you may want to think of something similar, as at this point in time you can get free installation for the NBN/ antenna, after the end of September the buggers will charge you for installations, and from what i have read it is about $300?

My Telstra plan 25/5 is $90 per month which includes family credit for a nominated mobile phone, free Local calls to standard fixed lines, free National Calls to standard fixed lines and includes a wireless Telstra TV box for Netflix, Youtube and other entertainment apps. And a similar bundle from Spintel comes to $69.95 a month plus I know someone who is with Spintel and the speed drops right down between 4pm and 8pm. You get what you pay for as the cheaper ones don't buy enough bandwidth to lower their costs. And my download speed stays around 24Mbps constantly.

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#1429133 - 28/07/2017 23:37 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yasified, be careful. Once you go onto NBN you can't go back.

I was told by a tech the other day that those of us who have no option but satellite won't be having our adsl cut off.

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#1429135 - 29/07/2017 00:13 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Planned | nbn™ Fibre to the node (FTTN)
Planned availability: Apr-Jun 2018*

Still another year away for me. Personally clinging to the slightest of hope that we don't get it.

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#1429139 - 29/07/2017 08:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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Planned | nbn™ Fibre to the node (FTTN)
Planned availability: Apr-Jun 2018*

Still another year away for me. Personally clinging to the slightest of hope that we don't get it.


Me too. I'd sooner kčep my adsl 2 than go on fttn .
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#1429143 - 29/07/2017 10:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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My Telstra plan 25/5 is $90 per month which includes family credit for a nominated mobile phone, free Local calls to standard fixed lines, free National Calls to standard fixed lines and includes a wireless Telstra TV box for Netflix, Youtube and other entertainment apps. And a similar bundle from Spintel comes to $69.95 a month plus I know someone who is with Spintel and the speed drops right down between 4pm and 8pm. You get what you pay for as the cheaper ones don't buy enough bandwidth to lower their costs. And my download speed stays around 24Mbps constantly.


Spintel is basically dipping my toes in the water to see if the system will even work here,our neighbours have NBN and their Wireless phone drops out all the time according to them. We are in an area where we do not get mobile reception, and even TV reception is dodgy without a booster.

Personally i am sick of Telstra, as how it stands we had no other choice but to use them (for phone and internet).

Once we got the phone line fixed it was only a few days later before a hum noise returned to the line, but this time it only took them 2 days to get here and *fix* the problem.But basically 2 days later the hum is back.....

The Tech basically stated that the line that runs thru the neighbours paddock needs to be replaced, and that he will put a work request in for it to be replaced, but he doesn't like his chances of them actually replacing the line, as they want you to get off the copper and onto the NBN.

Technically speaking they aren't even employed by Telstra now, as he put it they are employed by the Guvment,even their new vehicles don't come out with a Telstra logo on them.

The 4-8pm slow down does not really concern me that much, as i normally don't use the computer at that time of day anyway.

Originally Posted By: bundybear
Yasified, be careful. Once you go onto NBN you can't go back.

I was told by a tech the other day that those of us who have no option but satellite won't be having our adsl cut off.


Our area is serviced by NBN so it looks like the ADSL will be switched off, and sooner or later the will stop maintaining the copper altogether.They will also jack the prices up on ADSL higher and higher to make it unviable.
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#1429145 - 29/07/2017 10:46 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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If you can only get nbn wireless or satellite, your copper won't be switched off.
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#1429148 - 29/07/2017 11:37 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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Originally Posted By: bundybear

I was told by a tech the other day that those of us who have no option but satellite won't be having our adsl cut off.


They can and eventually will if the USO is changed so that USO voice services can be supplied over satellite and mobile networks.

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#1429179 - 29/07/2017 17:06 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Dean, can you check to see if you have a strong enough wireless signal to make it a viable option before being placed in the position that they end up putting a crappy satellite on your roof and you just have to live with a service that is inferior to what we have now...?..

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#1429237 - 30/07/2017 06:46 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Personally i am sick of Telstra, as how it stands we had no other choice but to use them (for phone and internet).



Yep, so much for a free market . Ironic that the Coalition keep crowing about the importance of a free market but they sabotaged the NBN to protect a duopoly.
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#1429378 - 31/07/2017 13:46 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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"Will my existing phone and internet services really stop working if I don’t do anything to switch to the nbn™ network?

Yes, this is the case for the 93% of Australian premises connected to the nbn™ network via a fixed line technology. You can see where fixed line technologies have been installed in the nbn™ rollout map. We recommend you migrate your services over to the nbn™ network well before they are switched off, which occurs 18 months after the nbn™ network is switched on in your area.

When ordering an nbn service in Satellite or Fixed Wireless areas, have a discussion with your service provider about your existing landline. Consider keeping the service active if you rely on the landline in emergency situations."

http://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-...r-landline.html

There is no mention of ADSL staying on for Satellite or Fixed Wireless only customers just the land line itself.

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#1429459 - 01/08/2017 11:47 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Originally Posted By: scott12
Dean, can you check to see if you have a strong enough wireless signal to make it a viable option before being placed in the position that they end up putting a crappy satellite on your roof and you just have to live with a service that is inferior to what we have now...?..


Yes, they are supposed to come around and do a signal strength test before any installation,apparently if you are in a spot with a weak signal, or you will be worse off than you are now you can keep your ADSL connection.

But, you have to wonder how long the Guvment will want to maintain a copper network for? especially for lowly country dwellers? 2 years 5 years? Will they keep jacking the prices up? will they even come and maintain the lines?
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#1429698 - 03/08/2017 19:11 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I think I will wait until they iron out some of the bugs first..after reading about your recent experience's Dean I just dont want to deal with all the possible bullshit..

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#1430092 - 07/08/2017 19:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
Red Watch Offline
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Originally Posted By: scott12
Dean, can you check to see if you have a strong enough wireless signal to make it a viable option before being placed in the position that they end up putting a crappy satellite on your roof and you just have to live with a service that is inferior to what we have now...?..


Yes, they are supposed to come around and do a signal strength test before any installation,apparently if you are in a spot with a weak signal, or you will be worse off than you are now you can keep your ADSL connection.

But, you have to wonder how long the Guvment will want to maintain a copper network for? especially for lowly country dwellers? 2 years 5 years? Will they keep jacking the prices up? will they even come and maintain the lines?

Plus even if they do maintain the copper landline who says they will keep the ADSL exchange running for a reduced amount of customers.

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#1438244 - 20/10/2017 19:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Well Telstra can bite my hairy back passage!

I bit the Bullet and am now posting this using NBN, so far so good.....

The initial phase was quite long and drawn out (getting our property added to the NBN portal).

The tech came out, did the test On Wednesday (he even called to let me know he would be there within the next hour) and thought the signal would be marginal, because of all of the trees. He ended up putting a 3mtr mast inteat of the usual 600-900mm one.

The signal seems ok, it does drop down to medium strength during heavy rain (haven't used it at that time) the phone is supposed to be switched over From Tesltra on Tuesday.

Our line has been "fixed" twice more since the issues i raised above, and is still just as bad. They rang me again as they were apparently supposed to come and "fix it" again today, but it seems our issue is quite complex and wont be able to be fixed until some date in November... (hmmm where have i heard that before?)

Even is spintel proves to be crap, at least i have the option of more providers now. So after Tuesday it will be bye bye for ever to Telstra, i would NEVER use them again!
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#1438245 - 20/10/2017 19:32 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Four Corners doing a report on what's wrong with our NBN at 8:30pm on Monday. Mark it down in your diary.

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#1438274 - 21/10/2017 08:15 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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With Mobile brodband data allowances creeping up in response to demand home broadband is on its way to becoming redundant.

By the time the NBN is fully rolled out the first of the satellite internet constellations should be up and running and Telstra can go..... well you get the drift.
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#1438420 - 22/10/2017 12:51 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Trouble with the NBN up this way is that there connecting optic fibres to the copper network to save money .Originally we were told that we would all be getting optic fibres right to our doorstep.

Most peeps that have connected are still no better off in broadband speed that they were with the old ADSL2 which wasn't that bad until they started messing around with it.
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#1438587 - 23/10/2017 14:02 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: desieboy]
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I am happy with it so far, it is marginally quicker than ADSL but i only chose the bare basics plan, just to "see how it goes" So far there has been no constant dropouts, no waiting for 15 odd minutes trying to establish a connection....

The telephone was switched over today and holy sheet! it is the first time in about 6 months there there has not been a loud annoying hum in the background! (there has always been some sort of noise on the line)

I picked it up and the dial tone is almost deafening!

Another good thing is i am now going to save my self $55+ a month, Telstra (insert Skyhooks song here Why don't you all get .....)
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#1438623 - 23/10/2017 17:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Well over 4 years in and the Coalition are still blaming Labor for their trashing of the NBN and they wonder why take up is poor when all the press is disastrous. What a truly monumental failure their FTTN model has proven to be. Just like all the experts advised them it would !
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#1438666 - 23/10/2017 22:15 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The head of NBN Co today called for anti-competitive behaviour. Anyone else see anything wrong here? Had these muppets done the FTTN rollout the ability to upgrade in future would have made this competition cop out a much, much smaller issue.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politic...023-gz6hbb.html
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#1438808 - 24/10/2017 22:00 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Locke]
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Originally Posted By: Locke
With Mobile brodband data allowances creeping up in response to demand home broadband is on its way to becoming redundant.

By the time the NBN is fully rolled out the first of the satellite internet constellations should be up and running and Telstra can go..... well you get the drift.


Latest big Telstra plans are getting there - up to 100GB but boy do you pay for it....$200 / mth!

My iPhone 7 has a faster connection on the 4GX mobile service than on the NBN home line via WIFI and that’s thanks to the stupid ‘co-existence’ shaping that’s imposed until ADSL is turned off.

Mind you, Telstra Sales are blissfully unaware of this so will happily sell you the Super Dooper Fast service with the extra charge only to see no change in line or connection speed so its back to spending another 30min talking to India again.

I hate to think how much people who arent even a bit tech savvy are getting shafted

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#1438874 - 25/10/2017 13:01 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: wilyms]
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.NBN: What would you pay to get fibre? For one Queenslander, it's $218,000
A Queenslander has coughed up $217,600 to upgrade their internet connection from fixed wireless to fibre broadband.
That is more than double the highest cost incurred by NBN Co in rolling out fibre to a single premises according to information circulated by the internet wholesaler today.
According to a list of the 10 most expensive fibre builds in each state, NBN Co spent $91,000 to connect a single premises in Ravenswood, $87,000 on a bowling club in Invermay and $56,000 on a house in Kingston — all in Tasmania.
This morning Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull conceded there was a "reasonable question mark" over whether the NBN Co would ever turn a profit.
Following inquiries from ABC News, the company has now conceded there were errors in the list, including a duplicate entry for Kingston in Tasmania

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-23/technology-choice-how-much-for-nbn-fibre/9076738
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#1439401 - 27/10/2017 16:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Just like all the experts advised them it would !


These the same experts that said the Labor skymuster satellite would be all amazing and wonderful?

When it is a pathetic pile of poo. If burns through $10-$15 a month in electricity along to power the modem. Regardless of whether you have it working or not.

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#1439523 - 28/10/2017 22:53 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Just like all the experts advised them it would !


These the same experts that said the Labor skymuster satellite would be all amazing and wonderful?

When it is a pathetic pile of poo. If burns through $10-$15 a month in electricity along to power the modem. Regardless of whether you have it working or not.

Sky Muster may have been conceived by Labor but was launched under LNP in 2015 - 2016 and it may be poo but remember a lot of the people who only can get Sky muster are typically located in remote, regional or rural Australia. Many of these areas currently have limited internet connectivity, and in some cases, none at all.


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#1439525 - 28/10/2017 23:56 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch

Sky Muster may have been conceived by Labor but was launched under LNP in 2015 - 2016


...and we all know how good they are at telecommunications wink
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#1439549 - 29/10/2017 08:51 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
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Sky Muster may have been conceived by Labor but was launched under LNP in 2015 - 2016 and it may be poo but remember a lot of the people who only can get Sky muster are typically located in remote, regional or rural Australia. Many of these areas currently have limited internet connectivity, and in some cases, none at all.


Do you think they just go to "satellites r us" and buy one off the shelf? Takes years and years to build a satellite. The satellite NBN is entirely what labor ordered. The silly idiots had no idea what they were doing and it shows with the pathetically small download quotas, power hungry modem which is too bad if you are on solar power and constant outages. I tried it and went back to 3G. It was far more reliable with no noticeable drop in browsing speed.

As only for "remote" people. That is just propaganda. My area has ADSL, it was always getting NBN satellite.

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#1439639 - 29/10/2017 18:05 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Why don't you go and ask Turnbull why you can't get FTTP instead of satellite.
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2483587


Edited by Red Watch (29/10/2017 18:07)

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#1439643 - 29/10/2017 18:15 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Federal LNP Blair candidate Teresa Harding said the Sky Muster service would provide a faster online experience for internet users living in regional and remote areas.

She said the availability of the service was great news for the region.

"The Australian Government has invested $2 billion in two advanced Ka-band satellites and a network of ground stations that make up the Sky Muster service," she said.

"The remoteness of our continent and its islands is no longer a barrier to broadband connectivity thanks to NBN's Sky Muster.

"Many homes and businesses in Blair are still dependent on very basic internet access which makes even online banking or emailing difficult.

"Sky Muster will change all that for many thousands of Australians."
https://m.qt.com.au/news/low-speed-internet-a-thing-of-the-past/3014389/

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#1439647 - 29/10/2017 18:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Tony Abbott's NBN - Mad as Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=b-6E5yX1E0U


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#1439713 - 29/10/2017 23:09 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Originally Posted By: Red Watch
[quote=RC]
Sky Muster may have been conceived by Labor but was launched under LNP in 2015 - 2016 and it may be poo but remember a lot of the people who only can get Sky muster are typically located in remote, regional or rural Australia. Many of these areas currently have limited internet connectivity, and in some cases, none at all.


Do you think they just go to "satellites r us" and buy one off the shelf? Takes years and years to build a satellite. The satellite NBN is entirely what labor ordered. The silly idiots had no idea what they were doing and it shows with the pathetically small download quotas, power hungry modem which is too bad if you are on solar power and constant outages. I tried it and went back to 3G. It was far more reliable with no noticeable drop in browsing speed.

As only for "remote" people. That is just propaganda. My area has ADSL, it was always getting NBN satellite.


I had satellite years ago. Before my dodgy adsl. Hint of wind or rain and no internet. Bird land on the disk and no internet.

I am sticking with my adsl until I am forced off then will probably rely on my mobile because I refuse to pay a fortune for access that I won't be able to rely on especially when I need it most like bad weather.

Instead of the billions of dollars that we taxpayers have paid for this dodgy system we would have been better off having mobile towers installed. The speed on mobile in Brisvegas astounded me. It could even save lives by being used to make emergency calls.

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#1439933 - 30/10/2017 22:56 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The problem is there are a lot of blackspots on mobile broadband I lost reception driving over Harvey range not far from Townsville and there is a small community there and these people will probably have to use satellite if they don't have Adsl. Even 5g will be subjected to congestion and will need external aerials like I had to use to get 4g when telstra were changing my phone from voip to the nbn box. Our current fttp is capable of 10Gbps with new coloured lasers.
https://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/the-nbn-pr...technology.html

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#1439950 - 31/10/2017 09:21 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The nbn is set up so those city dwellers have super fast broadband at the expense of the rural dwellers. Like everything. Good roads don't exist in rural areas. Telecommunications don't do well either.

The things city dwellers can't live without are lived without daily by the rural folk. Local tv? No, put in a satellite. Why would a person living near Bundaberg want to know what's going on there. They don't want to know the butcher is having a massive sale. They do however get to know the butcher in Alice Springs is.

Every time there is an improvement it means for city dwellers.

Maybe the rural folk need to secede from the govt and spend their tax money on improvements for themselves instead of funding the big cities.

In fact, it is already happening. What a national shame. When people have to go to the length of creating their own utilities because the govt and the city dwellers don't give a hoot about them and don't realise without them they would be so far up poop creek even if they had a paddle it would be useless.

But those complaining they only get 3gb per second please keep complaining. Those of us who get 0.98 mbps regualarly probably won't know because we don't have good enough access to know. Heck, I would be happy to have 5 mbps.


Edited by bundybear (31/10/2017 09:21)

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#1439976 - 31/10/2017 15:43 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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There are country areas with the old FTTP though already.

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#1443427 - 02/12/2017 23:45 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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In the area I live, we will be receiving FTTC instead of FTTN which is the closest we'll ever get to FTTP. Not sure why, maybe it's because I'm close to the center of town, either way I'm happy....at least until I have to move! Meanwhile residents just a few hundred metres down the road don't appear to be as lucky as they'll be serviced by the much less reliable FTTN. Don't think it's fair at all how who gets what is basically luck of the draw with this NBN rollout, tbh.

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#1444651 - 12/12/2017 12:41 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: bundybear]
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Originally Posted By: bundybear
When people have to go to the length of creating their own utilities because the govt and the city dwellers don't give a hoot about them and don't realise without them they would be so far up poop creek even if they had a paddle it would be useless.

Indeed!!! We are currently on SkyMuster. Download speeds on our beam are not too shabby (up to 25Mbps), but the data allowance is poor for what you pay and ping times of 605ms and more are shocking.
So, getting sick of the run around with Telstra and not satisfied with other forms of internet access, one of our local techs has gone out on his own and is connecting the Mid North to fixed wireless (in places that the NBN will never put FW towers). We're due to be connected up tomorrow (though I wouldn't blame the tech if he put it off to a cooler day as we're expecting 40şC+).
We'll be going from a 215GB, 25/5 allowance to 1TB, 30/5 allowance for just a few dollars more than what we're paying now and not having to worry about the latency that the satellite has... Netflix here we come!!! grin
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#1449012 - 16/01/2018 20:07 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Federal government refuses to supply more fibre to NBN

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/fed...84a43f58eef116a

What a farce.

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#1449035 - 17/01/2018 00:47 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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Federal government refuses to supply more fibre to NBN

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/fed...84a43f58eef116a

What a farce.


The greatest con is that they are telling the public via the media that very few people want the top speed . Little wonder when the top speed on the FTTN is a sick joke ,plagued with problems. Yet they'll try and tell the Australian public that this somehow shows they were vindicated in selling us a shyte alternative.

Why would anyone in their right mind fork out top money for this garbage?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busines...116-p4yyj1.html
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#1449071 - 17/01/2018 09:53 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Mega
Federal government refuses to supply more fibre to NBN

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/fed...84a43f58eef116a

What a farce.


The greatest con is that they are telling the public via the media that very few people want the top speed . Little wonder when the top speed on the FTTN is a sick joke ,plagued with problems. Yet they'll try and tell the Australian public that this somehow shows they were vindicated in selling us a shyte alternative.

Why would anyone in their right mind fork out top money for this garbage?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busines...116-p4yyj1.html


A bit like saying very few people want a $10 million home.

Top speed either:

1) Unobtainable under FTTN
2) costs a lot more with most ISP's

It is these two factors that are the driver, not peoples preference.
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#1449097 - 17/01/2018 15:19 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yep spot on.

But don't worry, Malcolm Turmoil will ensure that all the advice to stop rolling out fftn by pretty much every expert in the industry is ignored. There is one such expert on the news today suggesting fibre to the kerb should be commenced immediately and fttn scrapped asset the same time.

It is already redundant.
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#1449098 - 17/01/2018 15:20 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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He also said the cost difference is now negligible.
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#1449099 - 17/01/2018 15:37 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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It is disgusting. They just don't care. I feel very sorry for those people living in Australia who want to make a living off gaming, streaming, game development, programming, web design, game design, basically anything that requires you to have a fast and reliable internet speed. We will be the biggest joke in 5 years time when it pertains to internet technology.

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#1449111 - 17/01/2018 17:02 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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We are the biggest joke now
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#1449127 - 17/01/2018 19:48 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/fed...84a43f58eef116a

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Late last year a joint federal inquiry into the National Broadband Network declared a seismic shift in the technology underpinning the NBN was needed, recommending the rollout use as much fibre as possible.

The government said today it was disappointed with the report, which “failed to recognise a large number of consumers’ good experience with the network, and that the majority are satisfied with their NBN service.”

“The government is disappointed that after considering 191 submissions, holding 15 public hearings, receiving testimony from 179 witnesses, and undertaking three site visits, the committee’s majority report and recommendations indicates a failure to understand the fundamentals of the NBN,” the government said in its response.

“The prominence given in the majority report of the committee to the stories of dissatisfied consumers distorts the perception of the success of the NBN.”


Can't make this stuff up. Government is disappointed in the public for not being happy with a seriously flawed and under-performing product caused by blatant corruption.

It's not enough for them to get payed hugely overinflated wages to screw over the country, they need to rub our faces in it too.

The people responsible deserve jail time.
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#1449130 - 17/01/2018 20:01 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Just watched the communications minister on the Project. What a pathetic moron. When pressed on his government's promise to deliver 100mbps (a key promise when trashing fttp) he completed avoided it, blamed labor and all the usual claptrap they peddle.

"You only need 5 mbps to watch Netflix"

What a mug!
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#1449134 - 17/01/2018 20:27 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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A former executive at the National Broadband Network has predicted that many of the copper wires laid down in the NBN rollout will have to be ripped up and replaced within a decade.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-17/nb...nsumers/9335602

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#1449135 - 17/01/2018 20:31 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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FTTN has created NBN slums and are these people expected to put up with this technology as the copper degrades even further.

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#1449141 - 17/01/2018 21:17 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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A former executive at the National Broadband Network has predicted that many of the copper wires laid down in the NBN rollout will have to be ripped up and replaced within a decade.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-17/nb...nsumers/9335602


Given the blowout of the current rollout it's hard to see where the money will come from to do it all again, the proper way. They have [censored] Australians over for years to come, and someone has to answer to this.

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#1449174 - 18/01/2018 09:57 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
FTTN has created NBN slums and are these people expected to put up with this technology as the copper degrades even further.


and already this is reflecting in some buyers preferences when purchasing a home. Kiama Real estate near here is often advertised with its FTTP connections as a asset. Just like close to beach, view, transport used to and still are.
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#1449175 - 18/01/2018 09:59 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Yep spot on.

But don't worry, Malcolm Turmoil will ensure that all the advice to stop rolling out fftn by pretty much every expert in the industry is ignored. There is one such expert on the news today suggesting fibre to the kerb should be commenced immediately and fttn scrapped asset the same time.

It is already redundant.


There is only one "expert' they listened too, that disgusting old man Murdoch, who had to protect Foxtel and his large stake in Telstra.
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#1462419 - 23/04/2018 09:33 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Anyone using Southern phone for Phone and internet or i net .Seem to have Heaps better than Telstra .Have to get on broadband by the new year.
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#1462709 - 29/04/2018 11:21 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Bill Morrow slams the door and kicks the dog as he prepares to log off from his dud NBN

The CEO of the NBN Corporation now admits that the government is to blame for Australia''s slow Internet speeds, writes Laurie Patton.

THE DEPARTING HEAD of the trouble-plagued NBN, Bill Morrow, has finally come clean. He has finally conceded that reusing Telstra’s ageing copper wires is creating major problems.

In a paper published by NBN Co last week, Morrow admits that fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) is causing lower speeds and more dropouts than the fibre which was originally being rolled out. He also acknowledges that there are too many dissatisfied NBN customers.

This is the man who abused parliamentary privilege to slander me for saying what he’s now admitting. Despite a reproach from members of the Senate Estimates committee he was fronting, Morrow refused to apologise, leading the committee to publish my repudiation of his false assertions. Ironically, I also noted my contention that FTTN was creating the very problems NBN Co is now facing.

Until late last year I was the executive director of Internet Australia. On IA’s behalf I helped lead the campaign for #BetterBroadband. IA is a member-based group that includes many of the top broadband experts in the country. In a survey in 2015, 80% of the members who voted told us they didn’t think the copper-based FTTN option was good enough.

18 months ago I met with Drew Clarke when he was the Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff and told him exactly what Bill Morrow is now saying. He ignored my advice. Now he’s on the NBN Co board!

Had the government moved back then they could have adopted the new FTTdp (fibre-to-the-distribution-point) technology much earlier and saved a lot of NBN customers angst, while also saving the country a lot of money. According to IA’s experts, we can expect to see NBN Co start ripping out copper wires within five to 10 years.

Fighting for a 21st century broadband service has not been without its challenges. Last year, The Australian published a series of false and defamatory articles attacking IA and me. I had no choice but to threaten to sue for defamation.

Part of the settlement involved The Australian publishing this article and appending it via a link to the earlier stories. It is even more apposite in the light of Mr Morrow’s belated confession.

What I pointed out back then, in December 2017, is the way we’re heading now, whoever is in office in 2020 will have to deal with our biggest ever national infrastructure debacle. NBN Co will owe the government about $19 billion, which it is having to borrow to complete the rollout and will have to fund an expensive replacement of FTTN. I also noted that the Parliamentary Joint Standing committee on the NBN had recently published its first report following an extensive review of the rollout. The committee called on the government to immediately direct NBN Co to abandon FTTN.

NBN Co is apparently sticking to its hoary old argument that the current strategy has allowed a quicker and cheaper rollout. The evidence is to the contrary. In New Zealand, where they’ve stuck with fibre they’ve progressively reduced their per premises cost by about 50%. If we’d done the same we could have built the NBN for less than it will have cost once you add in the expense of replacing about 40% of the fixed line network that’s using FTTN. For my money, the project won’t be finished until everyone has reliable and fast Internet access. So when you include the time it will take to rip out and replace FTTN it will actually have taken longer to build the thing.

It seems even Mr Morrow is sick of defending the mess that he’s created. He’s leaving NBN Co at the end of the year. It’s unclear, however, what efforts he has made to persuade the government to dump its flawed multi-technology mix (MTM) strategy. The rumour is he couldn’t get the board to admit they’d made a mistake in adopting the MTM model. Who knows, Mr Morrow might tell us before he leaves if this is indeed true. At least that would allow him to save some face.


Laurie Patton is the former CEO / Executive Director of Internet Australia, the NFP peak body representing the interests of Internet users and a chapter of the global Internet Society, which is the primary organisation overseeing the management of the Internet.

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#1462717 - 29/04/2018 14:08 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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They were told not to do FTTN when they made it an election commitment several years ago and ignored all the advice for political favour.
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#1462721 - 29/04/2018 15:55 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Not quite NBN but..........

We have a new mobile phone tower in town. Common sense would have had it put on top of a hill or even the tallest hill.

Nup. It is in a bit of a dip. Reason being they wanted to put it close to a power pole apparantly!!!!

Surely there was a power pole or 3 on one the hills or even rises.

All paid for by the taxpayers under blackspot funding. It hasn't got rid of the blackspot except for the few people close to it.

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#1462820 - 30/04/2018 10:05 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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anyone know how long it takes after they have installed the box on the side of house , before you can actually jump into a plan & get it up n running?

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#1462868 - 30/04/2018 21:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: BIG T]
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anyone know how long it takes after they have installed the box on the side of house , before you can actually jump into a plan & get it up n running?

Jumping to a plan easy. Getting NBN to cooperate with your provider is a different story again. For how long it takes I would say pick a random number between one and many weeks.
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#1462874 - 01/05/2018 00:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Mind was seamless and quick - 2 days to be connected and I’m getting 96mb down and 38mb up. Damn happy.

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#1462895 - 01/05/2018 10:45 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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box was installed on our inv property a month ago - still cant do anything , says build in progress, could go on for months if they have to install the local area to completion before anyone can access it.

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#1462900 - 01/05/2018 11:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: BIG T]
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Originally Posted By: BIG T
box was installed on our inv property a month ago - still cant do anything , says build in progress, could go on for months if they have to install the local area to completion before anyone can access it.


What rollout type are you getting exactly?

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#1462901 - 01/05/2018 11:46 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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i asked the blokes who put it in , they said its the HFC

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#1463000 - 03/05/2018 12:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: BIG T]
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i asked the blokes who put it in , they said its the HFC


Have you checked your address on the NBN website to see when it's available? From what I understand, the HFC rollout was botched and most areas that were scheduled to get it were put on delay some months ago. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Originally Posted By: Kino
Mind was seamless and quick - 2 days to be connected and I’m getting 96mb down and 38mb up. Damn happy.


You must not be far from your node...or on FTTC. Whatever the case, you won the lottery.

Ours is coming on the 25th, but we're 500m from the node. House next door and all across the road get FTTC. Go figure.

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#1463004 - 03/05/2018 13:26 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I'm on FTTP and right in the CBD smile

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#1463020 - 03/05/2018 15:32 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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yeah on website it says build commenced , expected availability oct/dec 2018. what a drag

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#1463046 - 03/05/2018 19:12 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Kino]
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I'm on FTTP and right in the CBD smile


So you got Labor's version.
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#1463103 - 04/05/2018 13:08 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Kino
I'm on FTTP and right in the CBD smile


So you got Labor's version.


A lottery winner !

My FTTN node is only 250m away, so I can get decent speeds most of the time, but some evenings it is slow still.

My "pet hate" is the argument 5G will make it all obsolete, yes and I sure the Telcos will love that. it may truly be fast, but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ expensive for business, streaming, home, etc.
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#1463154 - 05/05/2018 14:03 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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will be hooking into the NBN in the next week or 2. Box is approx 100m away.

Just did a test on speedtest.net and got 16.32/0.92 Mbps. Will do comparison.
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#1463181 - 05/05/2018 19:57 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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16.32 on adsl 2 Ron?
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#1463197 - 05/05/2018 23:38 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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yeah, not bad ay smile
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#1463199 - 05/05/2018 23:54 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I get 11 max

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#1463205 - 06/05/2018 08:54 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Ronfishes]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
yeah, not bad ay smile


I would delay it as long as possible if I were you. I get 12 on my adsl 2. The cheapest NBN offer is just 15mbps on the email I got. Why would I bother?
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#1463207 - 06/05/2018 09:17 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Just did a speed test. On adsl my download is 2.96 upload 0.56. I am having a good day. This time last year download was 0.19.

Our only nbn available is via satellite. Very costly. Not reliable either. Our tele comes via satellite and breaks up often. If there is any rain around out it goes.

Thank god I don't have to rely on it for my life.

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#1463208 - 06/05/2018 09:25 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Did I mention the other day about the waste of public money building the tower in our area?

Seems we are not alone.

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#1463216 - 06/05/2018 11:55 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
yeah, not bad ay smile


I would delay it as long as possible if I were you. I get 12 on my adsl 2. The cheapest NBN offer is just 15mbps on the email I got. Why would I bother?



Plan states Typical 7-11pm speeds of 40/15Mbps.... We'll see..
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#1463437 - 09/05/2018 10:54 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yes I will wait and see if they can guarantee me the evening speeds on the next plan up (44 mpbs) and limitless download. It is only $5.00 a month more than the ADSL plan I am on now and they throw in Netflix, Stan and Fetch (iinet).
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#1463438 - 09/05/2018 11:05 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The plans from iinet look like good value to me RF. I am paying $75 now with telstra for 200 gig on adsl 2 which they very conveniently doubled from 100 gig about 5 minutes before my 2 year contract was up. Funny that.

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#1463441 - 09/05/2018 11:44 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I think we're getting Aussie Broadband.

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#1463476 - 09/05/2018 21:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I'm locked in with telstra now CF, I have 2 phones and the broadband on 1 bill.. No time for all that ^ Jazz lol. Everything is hooked up from my end, just gotta wait for the 15th changeover.
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#1463481 - 09/05/2018 22:13 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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Originally Posted By: Mega
I think we're getting Aussie Broadband.


Been with ABB for 6 months, very nice to talk to Aussie speaking Aussie at a normal rate, can even hear them.
Very Helpful , Miss Telstra - not once yet.

ABB - VOIP phone, covers all Interstate,Local & Mobile calls + 25Gb @ 12. $50 / month per NBN landline.

Almost same plan with Telstra ADSL per landline was $130/month.
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#1463486 - 09/05/2018 23:51 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Ronfishes]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
I'm locked in with telstra now CF, I have 2 phones and the broadband on 1 bill.. No time for all that ^ Jazz lol. Everything is hooked up from my end, just gotta wait for the 15th changeover.


July 20th here I believe. Been wanting to ditch Telstra since we got here to be honest. My mobile is with Virgin and they have been very good. Home phone will get binned if we go to NBN. Simply not needed.
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#1463489 - 10/05/2018 06:19 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
July 20th here I believe. Been wanting to ditch Telstra since we got here to be honest. My mobile is with Virgin and they have been very good. Home phone will get binned if we go to NBN. Simply not needed.

I went with TPG just after new year. We are being booted off copper in July. (18 mnths is up). NBN50 unlimited for $69.95 plus an extra $10 for the free local / national & mobile calls. My old landline number was ported over to the NBN Voip.
Touch wood,- not one problem yet, and it's great not having to pay Tel$tra for the landline rental just so TPG could put the ADSL 2+ over it.

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#1463534 - 10/05/2018 17:12 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: samboz]
Mega Offline
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Originally Posted By: Mega
I think we're getting Aussie Broadband.


Been with ABB for 6 months, very nice to talk to Aussie speaking Aussie at a normal rate, can even hear them.
Very Helpful , Miss Telstra - not once yet.

ABB - VOIP phone, covers all Interstate,Local & Mobile calls + 25Gb @ 12. $50 / month per NBN landline.

Almost same plan with Telstra ADSL per landline was $130/month.


Thanks samb, good to know. Yeah, their customer service was one of the reasons for going with them. The other is that they offer good speeds internationally as well compared to some of the others.

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#1463567 - 10/05/2018 19:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Speeds were as advertised here for the NBN at first (25/5 plan at least)...seems since then others have joined, peak hour has dropped by over half.

Getting 280ms ping <100m from the node. Rules out any sort of online gaming, never used to get that bad on adsl2. Sad
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#1463574 - 10/05/2018 19:59 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Markus]
Mega Offline
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Originally Posted By: Markus
Speeds were as advertised here for the NBN at first (25/5 plan at least)...seems since then others have joined, peak hour has dropped by over half.

Getting 280ms ping <100m from the node. Rules out any sort of online gaming, never used to get that bad on adsl2. Sad


yuck, that's not acceptable at all.

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#1463825 - 14/05/2018 15:02 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I could have sworn I posted in this thread.

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#1463829 - 14/05/2018 16:09 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mega
Originally Posted By: Markus
Speeds were as advertised here for the NBN at first (25/5 plan at least)...seems since then others have joined, peak hour has dropped by over half.

Getting 280ms ping <100m from the node. Rules out any sort of online gaming, never used to get that bad on adsl2. Sad


yuck, that's not acceptable at all.



Makes me think I should hold off on connection. I set my odometer yesterday at the box and I am 600 mtrs from the node.
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#1463894 - 15/05/2018 18:29 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
I'm locked in with telstra now CF, I have 2 phones and the broadband on 1 bill.. No time for all that ^ Jazz lol. Everything is hooked up from my end, just gotta wait for the 15th changeover.


July 20th here I believe. Been wanting to ditch Telstra since we got here to be honest. My mobile is with Virgin and they have been very good. Home phone will get binned if we go to NBN. Simply not needed.


Well everything seems to have gome quite smoothly, initial speedtest just now gives a peak of 46.24Mbps down and 17.02 Mbps up, a marked improvement.
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#1463895 - 15/05/2018 18:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Ronfishes]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
I'm locked in with telstra now CF, I have 2 phones and the broadband on 1 bill.. No time for all that ^ Jazz lol. Everything is hooked up from my end, just gotta wait for the 15th changeover.


July 20th here I believe. Been wanting to ditch Telstra since we got here to be honest. My mobile is with Virgin and they have been very good. Home phone will get binned if we go to NBN. Simply not needed.


Hopefully it stays that away as more jump on the line. How far from home is the node RF?

Well everything seems to have gome quite smoothly, initial speedtest just now gives a peak of 46.24Mbps down and 17.02 Mbps up, a marked improvement.
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#1463900 - 15/05/2018 20:59 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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NBN in my area of Craigmore, N burbs of Adelaide is operating surprisingly well but a hop skip and a jump over the road, they are still On ADSL

Before, on ADSL, speeds would reach a maximum of 1.0mbps, average was 0.6-0.8. Took ages to buffer anything and hours on end to download a simple file

Now that we are on NBN, ping is 9ms, speeds of 26Download and 8Upload but the plan was to be a min of 47mbps but the node is 800m down the road.

Did have issues with the phone at the start with it dropping out once every 4/5 days but Telstra performed maintenance on the line and no issues since.

Dislike the Telstra modem they gave us so that is bridged using a TP-Link router

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#1463901 - 15/05/2018 21:04 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: StormCapture]
Mega Offline
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Originally Posted By: StormCapture
Now that we are on NBN, ping is 9ms, speeds of 26Download and 8Upload but the plan was to be a min of 47mbps but the node is 800m down the road


Unlucky. You lost the lottery - especially since you're a whopping 800m from your node. At least what you've got now is much faster than your old ADSL, I guess.

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#1463902 - 15/05/2018 21:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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HigHly recommend Belong - uses Telscum infrastructure so mega bandwidth but none of the Telscum [censored].

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#1463913 - 16/05/2018 08:58 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
I'm locked in with telstra now CF, I have 2 phones and the broadband on 1 bill.. No time for all that ^ Jazz lol. Everything is hooked up from my end, just gotta wait for the 15th changeover.


July 20th here I believe. Been wanting to ditch Telstra since we got here to be honest. My mobile is with Virgin and they have been very good. Home phone will get binned if we go to NBN. Simply not needed.




Well everything seems to have gome quite smoothly, initial speedtest just now gives a peak of 46.24Mbps down and 17.02 Mbps up, a marked improvement.


Hopefully it stays that away as more jump on the line. How far from home is the node RF?
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#1463915 - 16/05/2018 09:35 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: Mega]
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Originally Posted By: Mega
Originally Posted By: StormCapture
Now that we are on NBN, ping is 9ms, speeds of 26Download and 8Upload but the plan was to be a min of 47mbps but the node is 800m down the road


Unlucky. You lost the lottery - especially since you're a whopping 800m from your node. At least what you've got now is much faster than your old ADSL, I guess.


Yer we are in a grey area, even TV reception was terrible until the council approved the installation of a signal booster many years ago,

26mbps is far better than 0.8mbps that's for sure.

We did go to TPG at one stage while on ADSL as they were offering more data for the same price we were paying for 30GB via telstra. Dropout after dropout with TPG, tech recorded over 150 drop outs in an hour. No issues since we moved back to Telstra.

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#1463916 - 16/05/2018 09:45 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: StormCapture]
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Originally Posted By: StormCapture
No issues since we moved back to Telstra.


Funny that. I never had an issue with Telstra on ADSL2 but when I switched to other suppliers suddenly my speed dropped and I had drop outs. I don't think it is a coincidence.
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#1463927 - 16/05/2018 12:36 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: StormCapture
No issues since we moved back to Telstra.


Funny that. I never had an issue with Telstra on ADSL2 but when I switched to other suppliers suddenly my speed dropped and I had drop outs. I don't think it is a coincidence.


Interesting that I am not the only one who experienced it. When we had the TPG technician come out, he said the fault is on Telstra's side with the lines but the lines were in good condition, but yeah ever since we went back to Telstra, no drop outs.
Speed with TPG was about 1mbps, lucky to go 2mbps between 11PM and 7AM


Our speed was that bad, the telstra modems they supplied to us on ADSL when the plan renewed, would never work properly, would get 20-30 mins of un-interrupted internet then would drop out and would take another 10 to 15 minutes to re-connect, so we ended up buying a Netgear modem and no issues there.

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#1463928 - 16/05/2018 12:42 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: StormCapture
No issues since we moved back to Telstra.


Funny that. I never had an issue with Telstra on ADSL2 but when I switched to other suppliers suddenly my speed dropped and I had drop outs. I don't think it is a coincidence.


All to do with who owns what bandwidth.

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#1463939 - 16/05/2018 15:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Mate's an ex-Telstra tech two doors up. They give their own clients the best connections at the exchange on ADSL according to him. Suspect D-slam. Give it to a dodo or westnet client (like us). Easy. They knew the hardware was going to go obsolete so refused to do maintenance the past few years, instead ensuring their own customers got the best connections.

My neighbour up in Cairns miraculously jumped up from 2 mbps to 11 mbps when he switched from Westnet to Telstra after being told for nearly two years there was nothing wrong with his line. When he wasn't a Telstra customer he was told by the tech that came to his house that the problem was inside his boundary after ruling out the usual suspects such as filters and modem. Miraculously the issue became a crook D-Slam when he switched.

"Hi Mr McDonald we found the issue was at the exchange after all". Hmmmmm. People here in Burnett Heads are being told there's no room left on the exchange for new connections and yet I got on straight away with Telstra. Yeah it must be coincidence.
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#1463941 - 16/05/2018 15:39 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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From what I've been told by an "insider" download speed issues are almost always directly related to bandwidth avail - in this case, Telscum owns a huge slab of it.

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#1463966 - 17/05/2018 00:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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I feel so privileged to be receiving FTTP compared to the issues that you all have been facing. Although there is one issue that lingers with me many telcos haven't invested enough in peak bandwidth. Theoretically in peak times I should be getting almost within 1-2mbps counting wifi and other data losses. Although sometimes i'm getting 17 down on a 25/5 plan. Although doing a test at this time on wifi i had 8ms ping and 23.67mbps. So I would imagine that the peak bandwidth issues even past connectivity issues have been reducing speeds even further.

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#1463971 - 17/05/2018 08:07 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
ColdFront Offline
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23.67mbps on FTTP? Your supplier is taking the piss surely?
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#1463972 - 17/05/2018 09:24 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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The 17mbps down is a joke but 23.67mbps is quite good for a wifi network since i'm on a 25/5 plan. I'm on Optus btw.

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#1463976 - 17/05/2018 12:16 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Mate's an ex-Telstra tech two doors up. They give their own clients the best connections at the exchange on ADSL according to him. Suspect D-slam. Give it to a dodo or westnet client (like us). Easy. They knew the hardware was going to go obsolete so refused to do maintenance the past few years, instead ensuring their own customers got the best connections.

My neighbour up in Cairns miraculously jumped up from 2 mbps to 11 mbps when he switched from Westnet to Telstra after being told for nearly two years there was nothing wrong with his line. When he wasn't a Telstra customer he was told by the tech that came to his house that the problem was inside his boundary after ruling out the usual suspects such as filters and modem. Miraculously the issue became a crook D-Slam when he switched.

"Hi Mr McDonald we found the issue was at the exchange after all". Hmmmmm. People here in Burnett Heads are being told there's no room left on the exchange for new connections and yet I got on straight away with Telstra. Yeah it must be coincidence.


I think a lot of the problem is that many ISP's with ADSL are tied to Optus D SLAMs, which may be slower or overcrowded into exchange.
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#1463979 - 17/05/2018 14:07 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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Yes, they are overcrowded, but not by Optus. They are piggybacked by Telstra's techs.
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#1464066 - 19/05/2018 15:54 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront

Hopefully it stays that away as more jump on the line. How far from home is the node RF?


Node is on my nature strip, but I'd say Probably 120m of line from the box to my phone. I'm the closest house smile
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#1464067 - 19/05/2018 16:38 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
ColdFront Offline
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You won the lottery.
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#1465712 - 16/06/2018 00:22 Re: NBN Woes, losses and wins [Re: SBT]
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So it's been exactly a week since I've been connected to FTTN with Aussie Broadband's 50Mbps/20Mbps plan, and have 0 complaints so far. I reach the advertised speeds even at peak time and no dropouts to speak of yet either. Only early days but positive signs so far considering I am 400m from the node, about 450m from the pillar.

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