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#1409700 - 26/02/2017 23:02 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
Dawgggg Offline
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Access has been decent. Im defs a lover of Access G and R.
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#1409706 - 27/02/2017 00:22 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Yes I agree . GFS is all over the shop . I think we are still along way from getting long term forecast right.

Insurance companies take NOTE . WE DO NOT GET CYCLONES EVERY YEAR!
Why are you charging (RIPPING US OFF)us when Brisbane has more damage every year from storm damage. YOU ARE ALL A JOKE !!

I hope we don't get a cyclone as much as I do love them . We need to build a case against insurance companies . $4500 p/year to insure my house is BULLS**T.

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#1409709 - 27/02/2017 01:03 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: weather junky]
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Originally Posted By: weather junky
Yes I agree . GFS is all over the shop . I think we are still along way from getting long term forecast right.

Insurance companies take NOTE . WE DO NOT GET CYCLONES EVERY YEAR!
Why are you charging (RIPPING US OFF)us when Brisbane has more damage every year from storm damage. YOU ARE ALL A JOKE !!

I hope we don't get a cyclone as much as I do love them . We need to build a case against insurance companies . $4500 p/year to insure my house is BULLS**T.



I had noticed that. Multiple storms every year, no warning, & and old houses. We get days in advance warning of cyclones, our houses built to cope, yet we're penalised.

My little house is 30 square metres & pay $1300 pa. Worth $150,000 but don't insure under $270,000. Strangely, other companies cheaper annually but more expensive monthly.

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#1409798 - 27/02/2017 16:55 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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From 2005 to 2013, home and contents premiums in North Queensland rose by 80%, while premiums in non-cyclone areas rose by a mere 12%. In 2014, Kennedy MP Bob Katter said residents in his electorate were being slugged with bills of up to $4000 a year, while people in Sydney or Brisbane were only paying $800 a year.

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#1409818 - 27/02/2017 18:21 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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I noticed when i lived in north Queensland that when brisbane had a severe damaging thunderstorm or flood. North Queensland insurance went up
Go figure
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#1409822 - 27/02/2017 18:28 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Large hail is often one of the most costly severe weather phenomena (in terms of insurance) here in SE QLD.

From memory the estimated costs from the insurance industry for the 2014 hailstorm here reached over $1 billion and made it into the top 25 billion dollar weather disasters in the world that year.

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#1409835 - 27/02/2017 19:20 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Kato
Large hail is often one of the most costly severe weather phenomena (in terms of insurance) here in SE QLD.

From memory the estimated costs from the insurance industry for the 2014 hailstorm here reached over $1 billion and made it into the top 25 billion dollar weather disasters in the world that year.

The three most expensive natural disasters according to Attvest Finance were Newcastle earthquake (1989),Tropical Cyclone Tracy (1974) and Sydney's hailstorms (1999).

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#1409860 - 27/02/2017 20:23 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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I am glad my post has opened up people to share about insurance . Maybe a new topic may need to be created.
I am feed up with us north queenslanders being fed crap .
I email Local Member for Leichhardt Warren Entsch last night and I encourage anyone whom feels the same as I do, to do the same.

warren.entsch.mp@aph.gov.au

He did say at his last election campaign that he would fix this problem. What has he done , NOTHING . I have not seen him once one question time trying to sort this out.

It is costing local Business because no one has any money to spend up here. Why,cost of INSURANCE ,fuel and electricity.

Do our politicians Care. Or is the Gravy train paying them so well that high insurance does not effect their bottom line.

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#1409870 - 27/02/2017 21:07 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Its coruption
Watch as mps and high up persons make a cuffel..or noise about high petrol prices then all of a sudden nothing paid off ???
Then find out the department that investigate fuel prices have just been found to be curupt.. that has been made quiet resl fast
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#1409880 - 27/02/2017 21:40 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Had to lower my coverage to bare minimum and increase excess to be able to afford insurance.

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#1409886 - 27/02/2017 21:54 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Feel you pain redwatch
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#1409887 - 27/02/2017 21:55 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Had to lower my coverage to bare minimum and increase excess to be able to afford insurance.

So what happens next year ? sell your body parts as it will go up again !

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#1409893 - 27/02/2017 22:29 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Had to lower my coverage to bare minimum and increase excess to be able to afford insurance.


I know two people in my town who have stopped paying insurance on their homes. That's bad in a town of 216 dwellings.

My insurance goes up every year, and every year I ring and complain and they manage to drop it by $1000. I now pay it monthly and thankfully can manage that.


Edited by cold@28 (27/02/2017 22:32)

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#1409896 - 27/02/2017 22:52 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Payouts are another story, read the fine print like house not in good condition, trees nearby and renovating can void your claim for cyclone damage.

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#1409898 - 27/02/2017 22:55 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: tsunami]
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Originally Posted By: tsunami
Feel you pain redwatch

Yea being out of work doesn't help, lucky my wife still has a full time job.

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#1409931 - 28/02/2017 10:28 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
Access has been decent. Im defs a lover of Access G and R.
Yeah they can be good at times although ACCESS-G was going for that big intense TC hitting the Wide Bay area a few weeks ago before catching up with EC and ditching the idea. ACCESS-R used to terrible at many TC's and even its analysis fields placed a current TC up to several hundred km away from where it really was. I haven't looked at many cases using the current APS version of ACCESS-R though so that may or may not have changed since then.


Originally Posted By: Mega
After all its so called upgrades you'd think it would have gotten better after 10 years, but nope. CMC isn't even worth looking at but at least the Canadians have announced major changes for their model in 2018.
GFS's next upgrade is currently scheduled to become operational on the 10th May (subject to change) this year. During its pre-operational trials, it's shown some improvement to surface variables in the tropics with not much change for the extratropics but as with most model upgrades, I'm not expecting hugely noticeable differences on a consistent day to day basis (it's typically only the really major changes to model physics that tend to have noticeable impact).

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#1410050 - 28/02/2017 20:20 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Cyclone season looks extremely calm for an average year, soon we would need to see one a week to make average. Such are the joys of forecasting a fluids movements
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#1410080 - 28/02/2017 22:18 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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Livio on 7 News tonight said that recorded history has shown that the Coral Sea has never had a cyclone free season up to 7 March, so more than likely this is going to be a record breaking season on one front.
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#1410099 - 01/03/2017 07:21 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Mick10]
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Originally Posted By: Mick10
Livio on 7 News tonight said that recorded history has shown that the Coral Sea has never had a cyclone free season up to 7 March, so more than likely this is going to be a record breaking season on one front.


Sounds interesting, but ...

For me, the most noticeable thing at the moment is the persistent monsoonal activity off our coast. Can remember some years where it's been almost non-existent.

In the past week, the sea surface temps (SST) appear to be increasing offshore from areas such as Cairns. So to some extent, the right ingredients are coming together for a most favourable environment.

From a statistical perspective, it could we be that we don't have a TC off our coast this year. Then again as always is the case with stats, it could well be that the next couple of weeks may bring one or two surprises.

That said, be careful of what you wish for. TC Larry was mid-march, and once it sorted out its original trajectory came straight at us with unbelievable speed (similar to Yasi) and left a trail of destruction.

Lets see what happens once the cooler current begins to compress the warmer oceans in the mid to supper sections of the state.

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#1410132 - 01/03/2017 10:09 Re: QLD Tropical Cyclone Season 2016/2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
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great summary there Mangrove. As we all know, March is the most favoured month for tropical cyclones in the Coral Sea, there is obviously still a big window for something to develop. i will do some research and find out when the last cyclone was that brought the first system in march. will be interesting to match up with rainfall records for that year compared to this year.
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