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#1413105 - 18/03/2017 11:07 American politics
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I have said for a long time that the US is corrupt to the core, and here's one more example: A Secret Service agent's laptop was stolen from his car. This contained a wealth of information INCLUDING but not limited to, Trump Tower floor plan and evacuation plans.

Are we seriously expected to believe the official explanation that this was a "street crime"? The deep state there wants Trump dead and this is but a step in that direction.

Trump needs to start lopping the heads off the hydra and charge this agent with treason. Even a lesser charge of mishandling classified information, which could hardly be defended, should be punishable by a number of years.

BTW How long does the "Edit" window stay open???


Edited by Hanrahan (18/03/2017 11:08)
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#1413108 - 18/03/2017 11:42 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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I think it only stays open for 10 minutes Hanrahan.
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#1413110 - 18/03/2017 11:49 Re: American politics [Re: rain gauge]
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Thanks.
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#1413174 - 18/03/2017 16:07 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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That's strange because real estates have copies of the Trump Tower floor plans, and it also had the information about the Hillary Clinton email probe.


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#1413182 - 18/03/2017 17:11 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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How does the media know what information was on the laptop i'm sure the SECRET service would not be stupid enough to disclose it. If a secret agent's laptop was stolen we would't know about it's contents until the thief made it public. Very fishy.

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#1413192 - 18/03/2017 18:09 Re: American politics [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
How does the media know what information was on the laptop i'm sure the SECRET service would not be stupid enough to disclose it. If a secret agent's laptop was stolen we would't know about it's contents until the thief made it public. Very fishy.


I guess you believe that which reinforces your preconceptions. I'll admit I did so let's agree that it is fishy.
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#1413207 - 18/03/2017 19:16 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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The current situation(mess) in the states is but a reflection of the political/cultural standing of much if not all of the western world. No one can be trusted. Not the pollies. Not the media. Not the general public including you and me. The cultural polarization of society has reached levels that may very well not have been seen before. At least not for a VERY long time. As you said Hanrahan people believe what reinforces their preconceptions but not only that they can now chose to live in a ideological echo chamber and only hear what they already agree with. This s only serving to deepen the divide.

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#1413217 - 18/03/2017 19:57 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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Further reading indicates, to me at least, that this is "something/nothing". Sorry!
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#1413327 - 19/03/2017 09:56 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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Corruption is one reason why I am so wary of Trump's attitude towards Putin. Outside Africa, Russia would have to be one of the most corrupt places in the world, and starting from your fellow citizens and local authorities upwards. No wonder the whole dash cam move started in Russia.
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#1413347 - 19/03/2017 11:28 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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I don't know what's worse Trump or his advisers.

I won't insult kellyanne Conway and her ability to put her make up on with a butter knife.
But the woman thinks her microwave is watching her. That and a few other loony statements.
Then there's Steve Bannon. An old alcoholic who sits in a dark room eating cheeto's and tossing on conspiracy nutter web sites.
And then of cause there's Trump himself Crying like the big baby he is. The courts are being mean to my Islamphobic agenda again -- that pesky Constitution getting in the way of my mean-spirited fun! Time for some more ego-stroking rallies, where i can count on my cult followers to cheer for my delusional pronouncements -- and do so without asking for evidence and without suggesting that i'm not being unpresidential.

Since he doesn't doesn't listen to main stream TV media. No doubt he is getting his news from a variety of kitchen appliances.

There must be many Donald Dump supporters who are regretting their vote
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#1413355 - 19/03/2017 12:00 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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More like Trump's attempt to "drain the swamp" has been futile. Of course the democrats and even those in his own party will do anything they can to block his policies. The main stream media are no different.

Trump actually cares about the people, the American people, as other leaders of their own countries should. The amount of nonsense he has to get around just to try and accomplish that says a lot.

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#1413359 - 19/03/2017 12:10 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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Trump only cares about himself and pretends to care about his supporters..
I often wonder how a man with gold taps in his bathroom can relate to all those who live in trailer parks around America and still fly the confederate flag..

Oh yeah he drained the swamp ,and filled it with corporate billionairs.

And What about the 75% of the country that didn't vote for him?


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#1413361 - 19/03/2017 12:15 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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Most of those 75% didn't bother voting at all so they don't get to complain. The 25% who did vote have been chucking a toddlers tantrum ever since and they are proving every day why trump got in despite being the fruit cake he is. Lets face it. The other choice was equally as bad as trump. And that right there is the most important fact to consider. American and western politics is really scraping the bottom of the barrel

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#1413367 - 19/03/2017 13:03 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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Well let's say if Trump only pretends to care, he at least knows what people want, which is why he still hosts rallies where he's able to go straight to the people and bypass the media.

Even a lot of those who didn't vote ended up rioting in the streets, brainwashed by the MSM and confident that Hillary would win in a landslide. I guarantee if she did win, Trump supporters wouldn't have reacted anywhere close to that scale.

To me Trump is more of a wild card, but I think he's a breath of fresh air compared to what the other option was. With Hillary it would've been another 4 or 8 years of Obama, if we were lucky.

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#1413375 - 19/03/2017 13:43 Re: American politics [Re: Remy]
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Originally Posted By: Remy


Trump actually cares about the people, the American people


The ones he can grab on the p***y or the rest of them?
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#1413381 - 19/03/2017 13:58 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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CF I think you read too much of the media crap.

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#1413388 - 19/03/2017 14:15 Re: American politics [Re: Hanrahan]
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I don't understand what people (be they from America or otherwise) had/have against Hilary. What did she do "wrong" (or "right" in the eyes of those who were voting for her). Where's the legit evidence to support an argument either way (or both ways if you remove "either")? This not necessarily a burning question...but have I missed something? Is there critical evidence I haven't seen? Or is this more media stuff?
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#1413393 - 19/03/2017 14:51 Re: American politics [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: Seira
I don't understand what people (be they from America or otherwise) had/have against Hilary. What did she do "wrong" (or "right" in the eyes of those who were voting for her). Where's the legit evidence to support an argument either way (or both ways if you remove "either")? This not necessarily a burning question...but have I missed something? Is there critical evidence I haven't seen? Or is this more media stuff?


From what I could see apart from being corrupt she had the following issues.
-In bed with the Saudies(close equivalence to Trumps apparent links with Russia)
-Part of an administration who funded and supported rebels against a legitimate govt in Syria thereby enabling and prolonging the Syrian civil war, turning it into a conflict that has lasted years instead of months and caused the greatest humanitarian crisis since WW2. (kind of ironic considering she is also one of those having a go at Putin for doing the same thing the Ukraine)
-She would have been a continuation of the status quo which has been slowly destroying the west for the last 25-30 years(nothing to do with immigration but rather to do with the decent into an Orwellian society).
-She represents the far left in some ways(like considering those who think differently to be 'a basket of deplorables')
_She fully believed she was destined to and had the right to become president simply because she is female(a sexist belief which is hypocritical in the extreme.
-She was so arrogant(along with the MSM supporting her) that she simply did not believe she could lose and didn't even bother campaigning in large parts of the country.
- She is a representative of the globalist/socialist movement that many people are truly getting fed up with.
And finally (and probably most importantly) she was loudly and strongly supported by the far left SJW's/activists who are very much on the nose.

TBH, my guess is that many who voted for or who support Trumps win are very much in this last group. They didn't vote Trump in because they wanted Trump in. They voted him in because he was the only chance they saw of fighting the radical left(and I use the term radical left to distnguish them from the majority of the left who are perfectly good people and not crazy phsycos). A lot of people will refuse to accept any of these reasons because it is easier to sit in an echo chamber and scream 'racist', and because accepting these reasons will mean they have to accept some responsibility for the environment that led to Trump.

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#1413400 - 19/03/2017 15:13 Re: American politics [Re: Brett Guy]
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Perhaps it is a good thing I don’t have an opinion about it…just view from a distance. I really don’t care about what side of a/the political spectrum people are on.
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#1413434 - 19/03/2017 17:05 Re: American politics [Re: petethemoskeet]
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Originally Posted By: petethemoskeet
CF I think you read too much of the media crap.


Trump media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8U0IaMsRf4
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