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#1374700 - 03/05/2016 18:15 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Best autumn I can remember in many years living in Syd, just consistent warmth and dry. In 2014 I remember there was a significant front at the start of May and never warmed up after that. This is brilliant so far, upcoming widespread inland rain event with the NW'er keeping us warm in the east, couldn't ask for better.

Was gonna plan a trip to Thailand to get away from the cold, won't need to do that by the looks of things grin

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#1374723 - 03/05/2016 19:50 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777
Deciduous trees are still keeping to schedule:


Deciduous trees here are certainly not playing the game as yet, some have shed leaves without colour and some still have bright green leaves. That's one thing I do miss about Canberra was the colours in the leaves at this time of the year.
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#1374768 - 04/05/2016 09:31 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Deciduous here are a bit all over the place. Some pretty much done, some part way, some not started, some just have dead leaves falling off. weird one out here this year.

Certainly Autumn finally hitting properly. Wonder wwhether winter will be late or the switch will be flicked and Autumn will have been very short? Time will tell.

LRH - yes that potential inland rain event looks to favour west of here and they need it badly.

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#1420801 - 05/04/2017 17:44 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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I thought it might be time to reopen this thread. Autumn has definitely arrived after a long hot Summer.

The following graph shows the average daily temperature* at Sydney Olympic Park from January 1 to April 12 (blue dotted line - forecast values used for April 6-12). A seven day moving average is shown in red to smooth out the considerable bumps brought on by extreme heat and southerly changes.



January started out average but quickly warmed up to the hottest January-February period on record across Sydney. Things started to cool down from mid-February to close to average in early March. It was warmer than I expected for the second half of March, owing to a few warmer days but also consistently warm nights. With April came a fairly significant cooling, but only to slightly below average.

It might post a later version of this chart in May.

So when did Autumn start? I'd say pretty much on time, around the beginning of March.

* Average of min and max

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#1420829 - 05/04/2017 21:31 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Some of the trees are turning around Bowral, but most of them have not just yet. My pop has lived in the Southern Highlands for 40 years and reckons that it's colder than it should be in early April. He said that usually, he doesn't have the fire on regularly until around ANZAC day, but it's been on every day since this weekend.

I reckon that Autumn actually started in NSW as whole, last weekend. Up until then it was really February weather IMO.
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#1420851 - 06/04/2017 08:48 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Most decidous trees around Sydney are still in full leaf, but Autumn colour is starting to become conspicuous in some species. Here is a liquidamber in Little Digger Park, Roseville, yesterday afternoon:


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#1420863 - 06/04/2017 09:42 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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It's late out here (leaf change)

Many trees look like they are in full normal leaf.

Others are showing slight turning. Next week or so should see it get underway more noticeably.

Temperature wise, we are absolutely autumnal. smile

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#1420893 - 06/04/2017 15:55 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
Some of the trees are turning around Bowral, but most of them have not just yet. My pop has lived in the Southern Highlands for 40 years and reckons that it's colder than it should be in early April. He said that usually, he doesn't have the fire on regularly until around ANZAC day, but it's been on every day since this weekend.

I reckon that Autumn actually started in NSW as whole, last weekend. Up until then it was really February weather IMO.


Anzac Day is the day people from Canberra mark as the point of no return, or the start of shivering. There was a Canberra Season calendar on FB at one stage, and basically it said either Freezing, or Hot except for 2 weeks around late March which were labelled nice.
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#1420939 - 07/04/2017 09:19 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Yes Michael - same here, Anzac Day is a time associated with first frosts and cooler days. 20+ degree days here get pretty rare after late April. Mornings usually low to mid single digits.

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#1421195 - 09/04/2017 21:52 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Early to mid May in the blue mountains is best time for colour.

My area, the liquidambars dont start changing until early june.

This autumn so far has been awesome. Very promising! Cant wait to head up to mt tomah botanical gardens in the next few weeks. Hoping to catch the ginkos going buttery yellow. They were fully green this time last year, as were many of the japanese maples. Too hot last year!

This year looking good. Lovely days , cool nights.

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#1421225 - 10/04/2017 09:29 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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This week should see a lot more trees getting into the autumn thingy smile

It's late here (too warm I suspect) but more and more trees just starting now. smile

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#1421228 - 10/04/2017 09:38 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Unlike some recent years, we seem to be getting proper seasons in Sydney this year, so far at least. Here are the Sydney Olympic Park averages (min-max rounded) for the year so far:

Jan 21 - 32
Feb 20 - 30
Mar 19 - 26
Apr 13 - 23 (1st - 16th, including forecast)

Maybe a cold Winter?

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#1421236 - 10/04/2017 10:49 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
This week should see a lot more trees getting into the autumn thingy smile

It's late here (too warm I suspect) but more and more trees just starting now. smile

Hopefully! My favourite time of the year.


Woh woh woh!!!
Just checked the temperature in katoomba! 5.2C as of 10:48AM!
The 'feels like' is 0.1C!!
That is fantastic.

That is the kind of weather that will trigger leaf change. Excellent excellent smile

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#1421430 - 12/04/2017 10:11 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Autumn colours are becoming more visible around Sydney.

[/url]Autumn Colour by Steve, on Flickr[/img]

Daylight saving has finished, the football season is well underway and days are rapidly shortening. The very hot Summer of just 6 or 7 weeks ago is now a memory, pleasant for some, less so for others. After a warm, very soggy March, April has been a mix of sun and showers, with temparatures tracking close to average. 20 degree minima and 30 degree days have finsished for the season, with nights now consistently dropping below 15. It's probably another month or so before we'll need to get the heater out, however.

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#1421446 - 12/04/2017 12:41 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Nice colour there Steve777.

Not much colour here as yet, not that we have a lot of deciduous trees about the area, I have noticed one tree is skipping the colour bit its decided to drop leaves regardless, probably due to the heat over Summer.
We haven't had a great deal of sunshine here, in fact we have had 10 out of the first 12 days of April have had rain recorded on.
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#1421450 - 12/04/2017 13:22 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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We have a number of trees looking like that one in Steves photo. However plenty of trees have no colouring per se.

Some are like Eddy said - just dessicated brown leaves dropping off. Skipping the pretty bit.

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#1421453 - 12/04/2017 14:15 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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How's Darwin. It's absolutely obliterated its record low max for April by 2.7C (and for any month other than July by the look of it).

See here
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/IDCJDW8014.latest.shtml

and then here
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_014015_All.shtml

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#1421455 - 12/04/2017 14:49 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Wow that is absolutely insane for Darwin. Temps were in the high teens late yesterday afternoon!!! shocked

Nice pic Steve. I noticed today in Bowral that just in a week it has gone from very few trees with colour last Wednesday to most trees now with yellows, oranges and red aplenty.
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#1421459 - 12/04/2017 15:41 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Such a marked difference in seasons this year compared to the last few years.

We have had a few pretty chilly days about Sydney.

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#1421484 - 12/04/2017 21:46 Re: Autumn has arrived in NSW [Re: DaveM]
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Hey g'day gang! smile

I'll be reporting back in the NSW/ACT threads once again this Easter, yes I'm off to Corryong, Northeast Victoria, leaving Melbourne tomorrow. Feels like only yesterday when I was in Canberra. poke

I got a brief taste of autumn while I was in the Capital during the Victorian Labour Day long weekend (and the corresponding Canberra Day long weekend). The Canberra Balloon Spectacular didn't take flight on Day 1 because of heavy morning fog. Otherwise the nights felt chilly, but apart from the last couple of days when it turned humid, wet, and stormy the days felt as hot and dry as high summer! I was fortunate enough to see just a wee bit of autumn colour along Queen Elizabeth Terrace (in the Parliamentary Triangle). smile

Last Easter I was at Corryong and there wasn't much good autumn colour across the Upper Murray, as I was too early unfortunately; it was in late-March. frown

Hopefully this year is different. I've seen a couple of pics on Instagram showing some nice autumn colours at least in Tumbarumba, but not much else from elsewhere around the Upper Murray.

Also some snow still hugging the Kosciuszko range, although I cannot tell precisely how recently this photo was taken (only when it was posted):

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSuxuHdAt0w/?tagged=uppermurray

Hope some snow sticks to the peaks by the time I get there! smile

The forecast for the Easter weekend for the Upper Murray calls for cold nights, as low as 2C on Sunday morning in Corryong, possibly with fog and frost, followed by mild to warm, generally sunny afternoons. Hopefully it'll be enough to speed the autumn colour process up this year! smile

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