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#1423047 - 10/05/2017 13:34 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
Brett Guy Offline
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New budget seems om at a quick glance despite a few things i don't like about it. Seems to be a nice blend of labor and coalition policies all rollled into one package.

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#1423050 - 10/05/2017 14:14 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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$29 Billion black hole in the day old budget already. Nice going . That's before even considering forward estimates are based on revenues returning to the levels at the best of the mining boom.

...and anyone that thinks the banks won't make up their $6 Billion hit with additional fees is kidding themselves. They are banks afterall.

Meanwhile the low income earners will be hit with an extra 0.5% medicare fee. That will take care of the one off gift for power costs in just the first two months of its introduction.

On rail (which should have happened 4 years ago) I'll reserve judgement until it is built.

What budget emergency? The Murdoch press would be having a field day today if Labor were the ones spending.
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#1423120 - 11/05/2017 14:01 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront

What budget emergency? The Murdoch press would be having a field day today if Labor were the ones spending.


Don't worry when Labor get's back in it will all their fault.
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#1423121 - 11/05/2017 14:15 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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It is now.
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#1423129 - 11/05/2017 18:59 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Wild Wassa]
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Originally Posted By: Wild Wassa
Originally Posted By: RC
The flip side is why should other people pay for for more degrees.


There is no flip side, even writing that there could be is spurious. Others don't pay for a person's degree unless they have rich parents.


If people never pay back the "loan" from the government, the tax payer is paying for it.





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He was for 4 1/2 years but living on short term contracts. Some projects as short as 1- 4 weeks at a time and he was not making enough to consistantly paying off his hex debt.


Time to move where the jobs are then, or should have chosen a more suitable occupation.

Have no problem with the government assisting the first degree at university, although that has problems of it's own with the oversupply of degrees these days which helps no one.

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#1423135 - 11/05/2017 21:01 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC


Time to move where the jobs are then, or should have chosen a more suitable occupation.




How's life in lala land? You must be one of the last remaining people in the country that doesn't know there are vastly more people unemployed than jobs available. Skilled and otherwise.

Job shortages in the renewable sector are due to a government addicted to donations from the fossil fuel industry. But let's blame the uni student for not realising that our government are actually not a government but rather employees of the coal industry when they went to uni to better themselves.
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#1423179 - 12/05/2017 17:29 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Time to move where the jobs are then, or should have chosen a more suitable occupation.


With you RC on this subject.

Have no idea how many youngsters listened to the lefty conservationist BS shoved their way by the lefty Education
system during their lives pre-Uni.

Guessing the "BAMBI SET" influenced far to many to follow that occupation & lifestyle which may sound just peachy, but isn't sustainable in the real world where practicality is supreme!

Having supported three of our family thru' Uni. I was always aware of the future prospects, nothing new in that over the last couple of centuries.


Edited by samboz (12/05/2017 17:36)
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#1423180 - 12/05/2017 17:50 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Hate to be the one to wake you from your slumber but there are countless rightie " future tax scabs " that have completed uni in various fields who cannot find employment in their preferred occupation also. Like those jobs that service the construction industry such as surveyors ,architects, town planners and engineers. A supressed construction industry due to lack of action by the government has nothing to do with the "leftie greenies" but then rightie blinkers know no limits.

Given most degrees take at least 3 years a lot can change in tge time between when the course was started and when it ends. Let's just tell 'em all they should have chosen a different path.

*rolls eyes*
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#1423207 - 13/05/2017 09:15 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Surprised that you hang on in Aus. CF, must be lots of other places you'd rather be............lol grin

Name a couple ?
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#1423209 - 13/05/2017 09:34 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Maffra and Lalaland? Same place?
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#1423213 - 13/05/2017 11:12 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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How Australia Bungled Its $36 Billion High-Speed Internet Rollout

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/world/australia/australia-slow-internet-broadband.html?_r=0

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#1423217 - 13/05/2017 12:48 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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AUSTRALIA - Best Country in the World.

Lift your game CF and start looking at all the good things we have !

grin grin
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#1423220 - 13/05/2017 14:10 Re: Australian Politics [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
AUSTRALIA - Best Country in the World.

Lift your game CF and start looking at all the good things we have !

grin grin


Like NBN worse than some third world countries. None of the good things we have are due to this government which is the whole point!
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#1423233 - 13/05/2017 15:24 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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I have no real idea what I will be doing for internet when they chop off my landline.

Satellite is unreliable as well as bloody expensive. Once power goes out it is gone too. Local people who have it complain about how often it is out now. Once they have loaded as many people as they can on the satellites it will become shaped just like all the other satellite plans became.

Mobile reception is sketchy at best. Even with my booster on the roof it can be just about non existant.

I think I will just be buying an even bigger mobile reception booster and a better phone to use as a modem.

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#1423495 - 17/05/2017 10:06 Re: Australian Politics [Re: bundybear]
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Originally Posted By: bundybear
I have no real idea what I will be doing for internet when they chop off my landline.

Satellite is unreliable as well as bloody expensive. Once power goes out it is gone too. Local people who have it complain about how often it is out now. Once they have loaded as many people as they can on the satellites it will become shaped just like all the other satellite plans became.

Mobile reception is sketchy at best. Even with my booster on the roof it can be just about non existant.

I think I will just be buying an even bigger mobile reception booster and a better phone to use as a modem.

Check to see if NBN has fixed wireless towers in your area, they run at 4G 2300MHz and are only used for connecting to the NBN network.
Here is some info on them.....
"A fixed wireless connection is typically used in circumstances where the distance between premises can be many kilometres. In this circumstance data travels from a transmission tower located as much as 14kms from a premises to a rooftop antenna that has been fitted by an approved nbn™ Installer.

Fixed wireless connections also require an nbn™ network device to be installed at the point where the cable from the roof antenna enters your home. This device requires power to operate, and can only be installed by an approved nbn™ Installer or service provider."


Edited by Red Watch (17/05/2017 10:09)

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#1423519 - 17/05/2017 13:14 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: bundybear
I have no real idea what I will be doing for internet when they chop off my landline.

Satellite is unreliable as well as bloody expensive. Once power goes out it is gone too. Local people who have it complain about how often it is out now. Once they have loaded as many people as they can on the satellites it will become shaped just like all the other satellite plans became.

Mobile reception is sketchy at best. Even with my booster on the roof it can be just about non existant.

I think I will just be buying an even bigger mobile reception booster and a better phone to use as a modem.

Check to see if NBN has fixed wireless towers in your area, they run at 4G 2300MHz and are only used for connecting to the NBN network.
Here is some info on them.....
"A fixed wireless connection is typically used in circumstances where the distance between premises can be many kilometres. In this circumstance data travels from a transmission tower located as much as 14kms from a premises to a rooftop antenna that has been fitted by an approved nbn™ Installer.

Fixed wireless connections also require an nbn™ network device to be installed at the point where the cable from the roof antenna enters your home. This device requires power to operate, and can only be installed by an approved nbn™ Installer or service provider."


I highly doubt 4g. I am lucky to get 3g with a booster.

I am sure they are doing something with our speeds to force us to move. I am down to less 1mbps today download. I was down to 0.19 this morning.

This is beyond a joke. Thank god my kids are grown and no longer doing school by distance that required internet access.

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#1423521 - 17/05/2017 13:19 Re: Australian Politics [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
Lift your game CF and start looking at all the good things we have !

grin grin


Which is ironically why some of us are so concerned. We do live in a great country, not quite the Scandinavian model of wealth distribution and social inclusion, but not the USA either.

However we see policies and direction taking us towards the USA - why?

Do we really want a USA style health system? Where you can rack bills over $10K without even an overnight stay - broken arm $17K.

Do you want a class of working poor, people working at fast food restaurants for $6 an hour, often working 2-3 jobs?

Do you want university fees that rival mortgages?

Because this is where we are being herded.
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#1423523 - 17/05/2017 13:55 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Spot on ozthunder, like almost everything you say in this thread.
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#1423525 - 17/05/2017 14:14 Re: Australian Politics [Re: bundybear]
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Originally Posted By: bundybear
Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: bundybear
I have no real idea what I will be doing for internet when they chop off my landline.

Satellite is unreliable as well as bloody expensive. Once power goes out it is gone too. Local people who have it complain about how often it is out now. Once they have loaded as many people as they can on the satellites it will become shaped just like all the other satellite plans became.

Mobile reception is sketchy at best. Even with my booster on the roof it can be just about non existant.

I think I will just be buying an even bigger mobile reception booster and a better phone to use as a modem.

Check to see if NBN has fixed wireless towers in your area, they run at 4G 2300MHz and are only used for connecting to the NBN network.
Here is some info on them.....
"A fixed wireless connection is typically used in circumstances where the distance between premises can be many kilometres. In this circumstance data travels from a transmission tower located as much as 14kms from a premises to a rooftop antenna that has been fitted by an approved nbn™ Installer.

Fixed wireless connections also require an nbn™ network device to be installed at the point where the cable from the roof antenna enters your home. This device requires power to operate, and can only be installed by an approved nbn™ Installer or service provider."


I highly doubt 4g. I am lucky to get 3g with a booster.

I am sure they are doing something with our speeds to force us to move. I am down to less 1mbps today download. I was down to 0.19 this morning.

This is beyond a joke. Thank god my kids are grown and no longer doing school by distance that required internet access.

Sorry if I am unclear but the 4g fixed wireless towers are not phone towers but are to connect to the NBN and you can only use them if you are in range. You would have to contact the NBN to see if one is available in your area and they wont connect you to it if you are not in range.

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#1423546 - 17/05/2017 18:21 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Red Watch]
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You would have to contact the NBN to see if one is available in your area and they wont connect you to it if you are not in range.


Don't bother contacting them. They are on a coffee break.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-...517-gw6qru.html
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