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#1423651 - 18/05/2017 19:35 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
PVW Offline
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Registered: 28/12/2010
Posts: 2372
Loc: Thuringowa, Townsville QLD
Went down to Brisbane yesterday to attend an information session and tour at the BOM QLD office.

It was a great experience.
One of the biggest shocks to me was how small their office space is, and how few people were working there.

I was expecting a large office full of people, but it was a tiny office space with 4 people working.

The way the forecasts are created was interesting to learn:
Of those 4 people working, there was a person solely doing Marine and another solely doing Aviation forecasts.

The public forecasts for the next day ahead for the entire state are all put together by one person alone.
While the public forecasts for days 2 to 7 for the entire state are nearly entirely computer generated, with one person reviewing them and making any necessary edits to MetEye.

Having learnt that, I now understand why the forecasts can often change so drastically the day before.
I've seen plenty of occasions before where, for example, the forecast for Friday will be the same on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday prior, and then suddenly change dramatically on Thursday, the day before.

The accuracy of the "next day ahead" forecasts varies depending on who is working in that position on any given day.


The Brisbane office does all forecasts from Cardwell south to the border, while the Cairns office releases the forecasts for Cardwell north, to the tip of QLD and the Peninsula.

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#1423654 - 18/05/2017 20:22 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
desieboy Offline
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Registered: 31/12/2002
Posts: 3144
Loc: Broome

Good to see the boys up in Townsville area get a few nice drops of rain after missing out with Debbie.
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#1423657 - 18/05/2017 21:17 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 749
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
Another 35mm in the rain gauge tonight ... I'm off to bed .... AMAZED
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Slightly damp!!

Rainfall
2017: May 19th: 46mm
2017: May 18th: 113 mm Whopee ..................
2017: May 17th: 22 mm
2017: To date: 642.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1423658 - 18/05/2017 21:31 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: PVW]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 749
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
Originally Posted By: PVW
Went down to Brisbane yesterday to attend an information session and tour at the BOM QLD office.

It was a great experience.
One of the biggest shocks to me was how small their office space is, and how few people were working there.

I was expecting a large office full of people, but it was a tiny office space with 4 people working.

The way the forecasts are created was interesting to learn:
Of those 4 people working, there was a person solely doing Marine and another solely doing Aviation forecasts.

The public forecasts for the next day ahead for the entire state are all put together by one person alone.
While the public forecasts for days 2 to 7 for the entire state are nearly entirely computer generated, with one person reviewing them and making any necessary edits to MetEye.

Having learnt that, I now understand why the forecasts can often change so drastically the day before.
I've seen plenty of occasions before where, for example, the forecast for Friday will be the same on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday prior, and then suddenly change dramatically on Thursday, the day before.

The accuracy of the "next day ahead" forecasts varies depending on who is working in that position on any given day.


The Brisbane office does all forecasts from Cardwell south to the border, while the Cairns office releases the forecasts for Cardwell north, to the tip of QLD and the Peninsula.


I knew the boys and girls in Townsville before the budget was cut and some lost their jobs. AND, (excuse the grammar) they no longer have 24 hours cover north from Brisbane - no funding. They did a good job in the past, but governments (of any persuasion) really do not understand what the BOM does or how important their work is. AND (excuse the grammar again), does any politician give BOM credance? Haven't heard any lately ... please prove me wrong if you can....

As David Lloyd George said famously: "If you want to succeed in politics, you must keep your conscience well under control."

It's goodnight from me and goodnight from him .......


Edited by Rhubarb (18/05/2017 21:35)
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Slightly damp!!

Rainfall
2017: May 19th: 46mm
2017: May 18th: 113 mm Whopee ..................
2017: May 17th: 22 mm
2017: To date: 642.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1423660 - 18/05/2017 21:57 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24724
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
been the only widespread rain event we have seen across our region since june last year.

PVW, glad you got a tour of the BOM, great experience.
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April 2017 total - 12.2mm (62mm)
May 2017 total - 177.6mm (32mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 692.8mm (1122mm)

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#1423662 - 18/05/2017 22:05 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: hickory]
Seabreeze Offline
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Registered: 18/09/2005
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Loc: South West Rocks, NSW
Originally Posted By: hickory
Originally Posted By: Mick10
been moderate rain most of the morning, nothing exceptionally heavy in kirwan. i havent emptied the gauge, but looks like 50mm since yesterday arvo.

Mick, could you tell me what geographic points, width and furthest point from the dam wall that would indicate were your dam catchment actually is.
Catchment map (pdf file), the dam's catchment being "Ross River (upper) Catchment":
https://www.ehp.qld.gov.au/water/policy/pdf/plans/ross-river-plan.pdf
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July 2017 Rainfall: 11.2mm (Jul Avg. 76.8mm) // July 2017 Raindays: 3 (Jul Avg. 8.2 raindays)
Year-to-date Rainfall: 1243.4mm (Jan-Jul Avg. 1018.3mm) // Year-to-date Raindays: 103 (Jan-Jul Avg. 85.6 raindays)

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#1423663 - 18/05/2017 22:33 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Mick10 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2001
Posts: 24724
Loc: Kirwan, Townsville - NQld.
sorry hickory i must have missed your post.

i have seen a more detailed map for the catchment area, but be damned if i can find it now sorry. i should have saved it last time. its a pretty small catchment, basically goes inland to Calcium.
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April 2017 total - 12.2mm (62mm)
May 2017 total - 177.6mm (32mm)
2017 Yearly total to date - 692.8mm (1122mm)

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#1423675 - 19/05/2017 06:22 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
rainthisway Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2015
Posts: 458
Loc: Mutarnee.....70km north of Tow...
Over 100mm for tsv is awesome. 124mm in 6 hours for me.
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Mutarnee, Southern Wet Tropics - 70km North of Townsville and 40km south of Ingham.

MTD (Apr 2017]: 5.1mm (Ave 130.4mm)
Mar 2017: 246.3mm (avg 468.4mm)
YTD 2017 912.8mm (Avg 1964.9mm)

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#1423677 - 19/05/2017 07:00 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23525
Loc: Townsville
We just smashed the 24 hour may record
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#1423678 - 19/05/2017 07:10 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Registered: 15/01/2008
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Loc: North Ward, Townsville. Toll, ...
Just tipped out another 37mm this morning taking the total for this event to 119mm. And still going. smile Great total for Charters Towers!

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#1423679 - 19/05/2017 07:10 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
slipperyfish Offline
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Registered: 28/11/2011
Posts: 1177
Loc: Charters Towers
92mm since yesterday morning plus the 33mm before that has made this a nice little unexpected pick up before the cool season.

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#1423684 - 19/05/2017 07:33 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14150
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
147mm since 0900hrs yesterday with a total of 184mm for the last 2 days and still 90 minutes until I can give a real 24 hour total.

For people who think this will somehow magically fill the dam it won't, we need in excess of 2000mm to even put a large dent in the stored capacity and probably double that to fill it. Latest dam level reading was 0500hrs 18/5/17 and it showed 16%. Possibly gone up by 1% overnight but there is no current reading for this morning.

Dam level has risen 36cm over last 2 days.


Edited by SBT (19/05/2017 07:37)
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202mm April 2017
Best 156mm 19/5/17
2017 Total 688mm
2016 Total 649mm
2015 Total 375mm
2014 Total 1032mm
2013 Total 715mm







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#1423686 - 19/05/2017 07:42 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23525
Loc: Townsville
120mm here since 9am.

I think we will see a 5-7% rise in Ross Dam
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#1423697 - 19/05/2017 08:39 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Raindammit Offline
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 12543
Loc: Townsville & Bilyana NQ
135mm at BG.

Just what the region needed!!
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#1423698 - 19/05/2017 08:47 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
sangas Offline
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Registered: 20/12/2014
Posts: 29
Loc: Riverside Gardens
Ross Dam @ 18.5%. Coming up nicely

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#1423706 - 19/05/2017 09:29 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
Posts: 14150
Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
0900hrs total is 156mm so that's the biggest 24 hour rain event for me for this year.
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202mm April 2017
Best 156mm 19/5/17
2017 Total 688mm
2016 Total 649mm
2015 Total 375mm
2014 Total 1032mm
2013 Total 715mm







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#1423711 - 19/05/2017 10:07 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Rhubarb Offline
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Registered: 11/01/2011
Posts: 749
Loc: West End, Townsville, QLD
44mm to 10am, total 157mm so far .....
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Rhubarb
Slightly damp!!

Rainfall
2017: May 19th: 46mm
2017: May 18th: 113 mm Whopee ..................
2017: May 17th: 22 mm
2017: To date: 642.5 mm
2016: 1,660 mm
2015: 430.5 mm

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#1423712 - 19/05/2017 10:07 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
scott12 Offline
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Registered: 10/11/2015
Posts: 703
Loc: maadi Tully area
Wow..awesome widespread totals....haven't seen that in a while..

Enough for SBT to crack a smile...?..probably not but ,no doubt, very nice nonetheless.. wink .

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#1423713 - 19/05/2017 10:09 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Wezza Offline
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Registered: 15/01/2008
Posts: 638
Loc: North Ward, Townsville. Toll, ...
Burdekin River at Selheim had a nice flow in it this morning. Same for Reid River. Lots of water around Toonpan as well.

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#1423714 - 19/05/2017 10:24 Re: North Queensland Dry Season - Cardwell to Bowen - 2017 [Re: Raindammit]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
Posts: 23525
Loc: Townsville
It bothers me greatly that it cant rain in summer like this.
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