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#1426269 - 19/06/2017 11:01 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
Mad Elf #1.5 Offline
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Loc: Mt Hallen QLD
Toowoomba would be a good place?

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#1426270 - 19/06/2017 11:03 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
NotsohopefulPete Offline
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Registered: 24/12/2008
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Loc: Toowoomba
What!! Put in a radar to cover the driest area of Australia?

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#1426272 - 19/06/2017 11:26 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: NotsohopefulPete]
Mega Offline
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Registered: 03/02/2003
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Loc: Maryborough, Wide Bay, QLD
Originally Posted By: Hopefull
What!! Put in a radar to cover the driest area of Australia?


Haha!

In all seriousness though, I've always thought there should be a radar on the Downs somewhere to cover that area and the far NW Burnett/SE Central Highlands / Coalfields. Very important area to watch for storm buildup during summer. Somewhere hereabouts:


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#1426273 - 19/06/2017 11:34 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
retired weather man Offline
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Registered: 01/07/2007
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Loc: Wynnum
It would be good to plug the gap between the Warrego and Brisbane/Marburg radars as many devastating storms form out that way before moving east. Such a radar placement could provide an improvement in the early warning systems.

BTW - not that dry out there -
Roma 579mm
Dalby 603mm
Toowoomba 722mm
Amberley 863mm
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#1426285 - 19/06/2017 16:26 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: NotsohopefulPete]
Rsav Offline
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Registered: 07/12/2016
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Originally Posted By: Hopefull
What!! Put in a radar to cover the driest area of Australia?

What are you talking about? It's not the driest area of Australia. The Darling Downs is one the country's storm capitals, so a radar there would be a good idea. There are radars in even drier parts of the country (eg. Warrego, Mt Isa, Alice Springs, Kalgoorlie), so if these areas can justify having them, why not the Darling Downs?

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#1426287 - 19/06/2017 16:29 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Mega]
Rsav Offline
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Registered: 07/12/2016
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Originally Posted By: Mega
Originally Posted By: Hopefull
What!! Put in a radar to cover the driest area of Australia?


Haha!

In all seriousness though, I've always thought there should be a radar on the Downs somewhere to cover that area and the far NW Burnett/SE Central Highlands / Coalfields. Very important area to watch for storm buildup during summer. Somewhere hereabouts:


Yep, somewhere around there would be good. Maybe they could move the Moree radar up there, as it's not needed now that the Namoi one covers the same area.

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#1426297 - 19/06/2017 20:53 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Loc: South West Rocks, NSW
The fast-moving onshore showers continued into today. 8.0mm in the 24hrs to 9am. 2.2mm since 9am here, our 14th rainday in a row.
Wet spells in winter of 10 consecutive raindays or more are uncommon, and makes the current wet spell quite exceptional.

The longest winter wet spells since 1939 here (including wet spells that started in autumn/spring but finished/started in winter):
20 consecutive raindays - 1972, May 20th to June 8th (bringing 180.3mm)
18 consecutive raindays - 1950, July 14th to 31st (459.8mm)
16 consecutive raindays - 1998, August 15th to 30th (139.0mm)
14 consecutive raindays - 1950, June 14th to 27th (507.8mm)
**14 consecutive raindays - 2017, June 6th to 19th (and counting) (215.8mm)**
13 consecutive raindays - 1961, May 26th to June 7th (242.2mm)


Tomorrow could potentially end the wet spell. Although there may be a few light showers about the local area, it is reasonably possible that it could be dry or there's only a sprinkle that's less than recordable.
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South West Rocks, NSW Mid North Coast:
December 2017 Rainfall: 25.2mm (Dec Avg. 117.7mm) // December 2017 Raindays: 5 (Dec Avg. 12.8 raindays)
Year-to-date Rainfall: 1493.4mm (Yearly Avg. 1491.2mm) // Year-to-date Raindays: 155 (Yearly Avg. 137.4 raindays)

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#1426298 - 19/06/2017 22:04 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
Lani Offline
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Loc: Jimbour, QLD
Driest place in Australia? Mmmm, just feels like it after heading on towards 3 months with only 8.5mm. Year started off so well too.
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Jimbour rain: 2017-483.5, Jan-103.5, Feb-67.5, Mar-118.5, April-0, May-7, June-21.5, July 33.5, Aug-2.5, September-1, Oct-112, Nov-21, December-16

2016 - 563.5
2015 - 702.5
2014 - 418.5

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#1426306 - 20/06/2017 07:18 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
wilyms Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ken Kato
There's been some talk of industry partnering up with the Bureau to build one or more out on the Downs in the future to cover areas where the existing radars don't cover well. Similar to what happened in WA.


Hmm now all we need is John Wagner to be a weather buff and then I'm sure there will be one at Wellcamp Airport in no time at all. Or find a way for Wagners to make money from it...

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#1426307 - 20/06/2017 07:33 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
NotsohopefulPete Offline
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The rain just keeps on falling on the the same parts of the Northern rivers. Unbelievable.

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#1426309 - 20/06/2017 08:02 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Yep we are certainly over it! If only there was a way of directing this stuff to where its needed but thats the nature of the beast when you are livin next to exposed coastline and when you have relentless east coast lows sitting out there in the Tasman. It even looks like yet another one is going to form next week where is the end to it!

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#1426327 - 20/06/2017 10:55 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
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7.6mm yesterday. The monthly total is now at 240.9mm.

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#1426334 - 20/06/2017 13:44 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
gleno71 Offline
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I'm wondering what's with the weather patterns of late? why aren't the fronts from the southern ocean moving up towards the continent which should give us westerly winds as were in winter mode now? It seems were in a summer like pattern for 10 months of the year.

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#1426335 - 20/06/2017 13:59 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
Timbuck Offline
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Loc: Highland park , Gold Coast
This might have a little to do with it. Maybe someone from the brain trust can elaborate more on it as I'm sure there is a lot more factors involved.

Cheers
Tim


http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/about/?bookmark=sam#info

And this. For the forcast and readings.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/aao.shtml

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#1426336 - 20/06/2017 14:03 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: gleno71]
Ken Kato Offline
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Originally Posted By: gleno71
I'm wondering what's with the weather patterns of late? why aren't the fronts from the southern ocean moving up towards the continent which should give us westerly winds as were in winter mode now? It seems were in a summer like pattern for 10 months of the year.

We used to get a lot more fronts and westerlies in winter back in the day. I've been living here for close to 40 years now and they used to be so much more regular/consistent and stronger alternating with weak broad highs across the centre of the continent (rather than having massive high after massive high parked across the south and giving us S to SE'lies).
Even objective analyses indicates an increasing trend in the density of highs across southern parts of the continent. This has been expected though.

In other news, a slightly greater than borderline chance of enhanced rainfall has been showing up in CFSV2 and EC around either late June or early July for some parts of eastern and central Australia. But not high enough to get excited over.

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#1426339 - 20/06/2017 14:37 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Ken Kato]
gleno71 Offline
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Loc: Australia
Originally Posted By: Ken Kato
Originally Posted By: gleno71
I'm wondering what's with the weather patterns of late? why aren't the fronts from the southern ocean moving up towards the continent which should give us westerly winds as were in winter mode now? It seems were in a summer like pattern for 10 months of the year.

We used to get a lot more fronts and westerlies in winter back in the day. I've been living here for close to 40 years now and they used to be so much more regular/consistent and stronger alternating with weak broad highs across the centre of the continent (rather than having massive high after massive high parked across the south and giving us S to SE'lies).
Even objective analyses indicates an increasing trend in the density of highs across southern parts of the continent. This has been expected though.

In other news, a slightly greater than borderline chance of enhanced rainfall has been showing up in CFSV2 and EC around either late June or early July for some parts of eastern and central Australia. But not high enough to get excited over.




Thanks Ken, for some reason I thought you were in your 30's poke

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#1426340 - 20/06/2017 14:38 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Timbuck]
gleno71 Offline
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Registered: 09/11/2007
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Loc: Australia
Originally Posted By: Timbuck
This might have a little to do with it. Maybe someone from the brain trust can elaborate more on it as I'm sure there is a lot more factors involved.

Cheers
Tim


http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/about/?bookmark=sam#info

And this. For the forcast and readings.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/aao.shtml



Cheers Tim, I think the SAM thing had a lot to do with the dry and warm summer we had and record breaking heat in Sydney. Perth had above average rainfall as well

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#1426368 - 20/06/2017 20:05 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Just heard elnino cancelled and more of the same yaa not
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#1426387 - 21/06/2017 07:38 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
NotsohopefulPete Offline
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Registered: 24/12/2008
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Loc: Toowoomba
I have had these discussions about winters with my father who has lived his whole 86 years in Lismore. I remember when I played hockey during the winter in the late 60's to early seventies the howling cold westerlies & frosts. He thinks winters are so much milder these days.

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#1426429 - 21/06/2017 16:06 Re: SEQLD / NENSW Day to Day Weather - 2017 [Re: Seabreeze]
retired weather man Offline
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Registered: 01/07/2007
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Loc: Wynnum
I remember the 50's and 60's with what has been described above. In October 1964 we had a gust of 64 knots then 2 duststorms a few days later and during one of these duststorms a TS rolled up and gave us red rain. There were numerous ECL's in the winters, 1963, 1965, 1967 being the standouts, with other ECL's in the spring of 1964, and around Xmas 1967.
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