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#1427330 - 04/07/2017 10:52 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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The coldest air is due west of SA at the moment. I am a bit suprised to see tthat much rotation

That westerly stream looks to be getting established. That weather should wander our way by tonight.


Edited by Donzah (04/07/2017 10:55)

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#1427331 - 04/07/2017 11:08 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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And how about the really tight rotation over western Tas, quite a compact but very obvious little low centre there smile

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#1427332 - 04/07/2017 11:28 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Meanwhile, whilst you guys feverishly discuss how many changes on the head of a pin, we have a July where three of the first four days of July have been above average, including an almost 22 at Norah head at the moment at 11 am in mid July. That is more worthy of discussion than some straw clinging nonsense about big snow dumps in the Alps. The alpine season's fate was sealed for this year a fair while ago. A dud season. Deal with it.
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#1427334 - 04/07/2017 11:48 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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I would not call the 4th the middle of july.And there are quite a few of us who like to talk about snow in winter,amazing hey.

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#1427337 - 04/07/2017 12:18 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Yeah Dave I had to mention it because I don't get to show off it being colder here very often. grin

There is nothing that unusual about the first 3 out of 4 days of July to be above average. Maybe if it was actually mid July and only one day below, I'd be concerned.

It feels hot outside!! It's funny how you get used to 15-17C for a while and then temps above 20 feel genuinely warm. Even the breeze does not have a hint of chill in shorts and tshirt. Lovely.
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#1427338 - 04/07/2017 12:21 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Talk of snow all good. But this thread header gives impression it is a strong change to hit NSW which is garbage.

As for 4th of July not being mid winter I disagree. Leave it at that.
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#1427344 - 04/07/2017 12:34 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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It appears to be snowing at Perisher.
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#1427409 - 04/07/2017 20:31 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Edited by Homer (04/07/2017 20:31)

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#1427411 - 04/07/2017 20:55 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Yeah it's not ideal, especially in light of reading the ski forum.
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#1427436 - 05/07/2017 10:17 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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snotting heavy snow at Perisher

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#1427437 - 05/07/2017 10:22 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Originally Posted By: Donzah
snotting heavy snow at Perisher


Yeh, I put that in the snow thread.

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#1427438 - 05/07/2017 10:25 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Originally Posted By: Donzah
snotting heavy snow at Perisher


Yeh, I put that in the snow thread.


I don't really go in there.

Very moist westerly stream at perisher. Large dendrites on the cams.

Next few days look ok as well with decent winds and better temps.

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#1427439 - 05/07/2017 10:33 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Originally Posted By: Donzah
Originally Posted By: Homer
Originally Posted By: Donzah
snotting heavy snow at Perisher


Yeh, I put that in the snow thread.


I don't really go in there.

Very moist westerly stream at perisher. Large dendrites on the cams.

Next few days look ok as well with decent winds and better temps.


Yeh, no worries.
Agree that some good accumulation will occur over the next few days/week.

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#1427442 - 05/07/2017 10:43 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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NSW cams - especially Perisher looking better today.

Selwyn showing it's lack of elevation still.

Hopefully all get some full coverage this week.

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#1427445 - 05/07/2017 10:47 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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I think Selwyn will struggle because of its elevation as you say Dave. Not really a cold change, just a very moist one. It may not get any snow this week or it will be very marginal at best.


Edited by Wave Rider (05/07/2017 10:48)
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#1427448 - 05/07/2017 10:57 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Maybe someone would know, is Selwyn closed? But looking at the cams I couldn't see one person on the slopes.
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#1427457 - 05/07/2017 13:23 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Selwyn only have 2 lifts running.

Seems to be man made only that can be ski'd on.

New Chum is the beginner area.

There are SOME people on the snow but not many. Basically they would likely be absolute beginners learning to ski or less experienced skiers finding their feet.

Many of the people would be making the drive around to Perisher I suspect to get some runs in instead. Bit of a trip but for anyone not a pure beginner, the only real choice.

Selwyn can change rapidly though if snow comes in on a Westerly or Nw system - it's on the first really tall ridge and orographics mean (from those directions) it actually can accumulate extremely rapidly sometimes. The more southerly the system flows, the less it accumulates. SE systems are the worst for there.

They don't need much snow to fall, the slopes are so well groomed (no rocks etc) and so smooth from holes & bumps, that even 20cm gives full coverage. They actually can do quite well at times. Just not today.

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#1427478 - 05/07/2017 17:31 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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I think Selwyn may get some love . That band is north of the MR and the temps are colder at 850hpa (ie selwyns altitude)

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#1427480 - 05/07/2017 17:33 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Cool afternoon in Sydney, wind had a certain chill about it, and it was interesting watching the dynamics of the sky change throughout the afternoon with some moisture and instability in the mid levels.
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#1427481 - 05/07/2017 17:35 Re: NSW Cold front- Bass strait low and embedded SW stream. July 3rd to 6th 2017 [Re: Donzah]
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Also....Im going to Lithgow in 12 days, how much of a weather system from the south west will I need to see to get my hopes up of seeing snow for the first time!
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