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#1428169 - 16/07/2017 23:45 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: Eevo]
Thunderstruck Offline
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Registered: 10/05/2001
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Loc: Seaford Meadows, SA
Originally Posted By: Eevo
how bad is monday going to be?


Wet and windy....I'd probably have tuesday even wetter with secondary trough and cold air aloft again. Really nice curved flow still, big aggressive coldies and huge totals in the hills especially.

TS cool

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#1428170 - 17/07/2017 01:00 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Eevo Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2013
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Loc: Bridgewater
monday, tuesday combine totals

ADFD: 30-85mm
OCF: 18mm
GFS: 19mm

big variation

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#1428171 - 17/07/2017 03:02 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
betsuin Offline
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Registered: 07/04/2010
Posts: 553
Loc: Magill, Adelaide
9.5mm in my gauge so far.


Edited by betsuin (17/07/2017 03:02)

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#1428176 - 17/07/2017 09:14 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Werner K Offline
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Registered: 28/11/2011
Posts: 468
Loc: Flinders Park, SA
9.6mm this morning as at 8am.

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#1428216 - 17/07/2017 16:07 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
liz Offline
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Registered: 02/12/2001
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Loc: Near Victor Harbor S.A.
Moderate rain with minute hail - followed by a short sun shower.

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#1428230 - 17/07/2017 18:30 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
betsuin Offline
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Loc: Magill, Adelaide
Hammering down here just then - solid core over the hills:



and ramping up again as I type


Edited by betsuin (17/07/2017 18:31)

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#1428259 - 18/07/2017 01:37 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
saltspray Offline
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Loc: West Lakes Shore SA
Ramping up again with lots of showers below a line St Kilda Port Vincent on Yorks.
That what referred to here as the "forcefield"?
Wind speed stepping up too.

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#1428268 - 18/07/2017 08:29 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Werner K Offline
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Registered: 28/11/2011
Posts: 468
Loc: Flinders Park, SA
Another 13.6mm until 730am this morning. A fair chunk of that probably from a coldie around 530pm.

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#1428273 - 18/07/2017 09:17 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: Eevo]
Blair Trewin Offline
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Registered: 13/07/2001
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted By: Eevo
monday, tuesday combine totals

ADFD: 30-85mm
OCF: 18mm
GFS: 19mm

big variation


Not surprising - anything based primarily on global models is going to struggle to capture the enhancement of rain over the Adelaide Hills.

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#1428276 - 18/07/2017 09:37 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
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Loc: North Brighton, SA
Best coldies of the year for us the next few hours, amazing structure seen already, should be a very wet day! grin
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#1428286 - 18/07/2017 11:02 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Galaxyman Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2016
Posts: 200
Loc: Renmark
Our forecast for yesterday evening had "chance of thunderstorm". Nearly died from the hilarity. You'd think that the millions of dollars the BOM spends on supercomputers to be wrong they would set aside a couple of bucks for, oh I don't know, a window...

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#1428287 - 18/07/2017 11:07 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: Galaxyman]
JohnC Offline
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Registered: 03/02/2011
Posts: 156
Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
Originally Posted By: Galaxyman
Our forecast for yesterday evening had "chance of thunderstorm". Nearly died from the hilarity. You'd think that the millions of dollars the BOM spends on supercomputers to be wrong they would set aside a couple of bucks for, oh I don't know, a window...


The old "It didn't rain where I am, so BOM was wrong" argument.
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#1428292 - 18/07/2017 11:48 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
berga1987 Offline
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Registered: 04/08/2010
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Loc: Malvern, Adelaide, Aus
Well, there was thunder where I was....
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#1428293 - 18/07/2017 12:01 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Galaxyman Offline
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Registered: 30/01/2016
Posts: 200
Loc: Renmark
yeah yeah yeah fact is, skies were clearing *here* and yet they still forecasted not only showers, but a chance of a storm *here* when it was clear as daylight absolutely nothing would happen *here*.

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#1428318 - 18/07/2017 13:53 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
StormCapture Offline
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Registered: 19/12/2013
Posts: 1642
Loc: Uleybury
The thunderstorm debate is one of the popular ones.

Even though when a cloud becomes electrified even when it spits one bolt, its classed as a thunderstorm which honestly I think its a bit stupid. A thunderstorm to me contains contains one or more of the following: a fair bit of lightning, heavy rain, hail, damaging to destructive winds.

IMO if you get a small handful of bolts then it should be classed as a thundery shower.

It's a topic that I really do not get. Go back in time when BoM had the long text forecasts before the major upgrades to their systems, they'd have "A late thundery shower" or "A possible thundery shower", otherwise showers with hail and possible thunder. Not a thunderstorm itself but a decent shower to drop a few bolts.

Then again the forecast system today isn't all that well also.

For their rain, they should forecast the amount and it should be between the forecast times. E.G. 5:20AM , Showers, heavy at times, 4 to 15mm, so with that, we should expect 4 to 15mm to fall between 5:20AM and 4:10PM.

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#1428323 - 18/07/2017 14:29 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Ryan Hothersall Offline
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Originally Posted By: StormCapture
The thunderstorm debate is one of the popular ones.

Even though when a cloud becomes electrified even when it spits one bolt, its classed as a thunderstorm which honestly I think its a bit stupid. A thunderstorm to me contains contains one or more of the following: a fair bit of lightning, heavy rain, hail, damaging to destructive winds.

IMO if you get a small handful of bolts then it should be classed as a thundery shower.

It's a topic that I really do not get. Go back in time when BoM had the long text forecasts before the major upgrades to their systems, they'd have "A late thundery shower" or "A possible thundery shower", otherwise showers with hail and possible thunder. Not a thunderstorm itself but a decent shower to drop a few bolts.

Then again the forecast system today isn't all that well also.

For their rain, they should forecast the amount and it should be between the forecast times. E.G. 5:20AM , Showers, heavy at times, 4 to 15mm, so with that, we should expect 4 to 15mm to fall between 5:20AM and 4:10PM.


A good way to describe most storms in adelaide I say, a thundery shower. To me most all you get is a flash, couple of bangs, a bit of rain and that's it.
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#1428325 - 18/07/2017 14:30 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: berga1987]
Seira Offline
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Registered: 27/08/2003
Posts: 7033
Loc: Adelaide Hills.
Originally Posted By: berga1987
Well, there was thunder where I was....

Great, I got some too, amongst other things, wonderful, good to talk about!

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#1428339 - 18/07/2017 16:09 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
StormCapture Offline
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Registered: 19/12/2013
Posts: 1642
Loc: Uleybury
Decent line up of showers up north, managed to see one CH from that Roseworthy cell

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#1428382 - 18/07/2017 22:45 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Eevo Offline
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Registered: 02/11/2013
Posts: 1593
Loc: Bridgewater
46mm of rain today
36mm yesterday

most impressive

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#1428387 - 18/07/2017 23:19 Re: SA - Series of cold fronts, showers, wind and hail - July 13-18 2017 [Re: StormCapture]
Markus Offline
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Registered: 02/12/2010
Posts: 2105
Loc: Clare, SA
Huge fall there Eevo, Adelaide Hills have been doing very well indeed from these continuous westerly setups.

Managed to clip one brief heavy shower in Clare, only managed 9mm at home though, 16mm for the event. Can't seem to catch a break this year for heavy rainfall, I do believe that 9mm may be the biggest 24 hour for here at home since April smirk

Not complaining though, north of here is doing even worse.
Redhill/Koolunga way have had less than 50mm since the start of May, crops aren't looking great to say the least.

Should add, some pretty impressive dumps of hail with some very localised cells today!
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