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#1428892 - 25/07/2017 22:08 NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017
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GFS has been showing 18 degrees at 925mb for many days now for Sydney and surrounds which could translate to about 27 or 28C on both days which would break some records by quite a decent margin. There are even 925mb temps up to 20C in the far west so places like Mildura may see in excess of 30.

Not to mention winds could also be very strong in the southern and western areas, along with the coast in some areas which traditionally get strong NW winds like Newcastle.

Post observations here, and I may add a bit more later
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#1428893 - 25/07/2017 22:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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GFS has Newcastle under some solid cloud for the majority of the weekend, especially Sunday whereas Sydney and the Illawarra is reasonably free of cloud for the weekend.
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#1428894 - 25/07/2017 22:45 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Ah yeah, I didn't pick up on that but I see what you mean now. Hopefully for your sake you get mostly sunny days so you can head to the beach.
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#1428895 - 25/07/2017 22:56 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I can head to the beach pretty well anytime, for instance I had 7 lawns to mow today, I quit after one job and headed to the national park.

But tomorrow GFS run could well have the cloud further south or north, I look forward to tomorrows run!!
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#1428897 - 25/07/2017 23:08 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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That sounds pretty chilled out Eddy. Starting up a lawn mowing business?
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#1428899 - 25/07/2017 23:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Sea Temp off Sydney is currently about 20C close to shore according to
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/beachapp/oceanbulletin.aspx
but with some colder currents sitting closer to shore according to the BOM site, I'll be ready for as low as 18.5C if I head to the beach on Sunday with the forecast 3-4ft swell, for a first ever July Sydney beach swim/surf for me.

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#1428912 - 26/07/2017 08:19 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Obs Hill's habit of a slow morning warm up will bite into the 9am reset today.
Lowest overnight I can see is 14.2 but 11.0 will be the 'official' figure.

Other places such as Mascot won't be robbed.

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#1428942 - 26/07/2017 14:04 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Saw this little gem on the ads haha. What a joke. If only our Decembers were as mild.

SMH, media already got a hold of it..

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#1428953 - 26/07/2017 16:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Now it looks like the Metro & Hunter will be cloud free for the majority of the weekend.
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#1428954 - 26/07/2017 16:54 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yippee. Daytime heat might be more without cloud but at least Sat night be ezier to put up with.

@WR. Obs Hill didnt hit 22 or 22.6 today so that changes the equation a little over the next 5 days there. As said before. If forecast pans out then its Friday Sat and Sunday that will have to turn it on to beat the 2013 record. Assuming Obs hits 19 tomorrow, Friday 22 and Monday another 19. What would Sat and Sunday have to get to beat record?

@ Warren. The media subscribe to the chorus of the Newcastle Song. 'Don't you ever let a chance go by...'


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#1428974 - 27/07/2017 02:05 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Knot, they would have to reach at least 54C collectively to beat the record assuming that the forecast for the other days is what you said. So it would have to be at least 27C on both days, or 26 then 28 or 25 then 29C etc.

It most likely won't happen, and the forecast for tomorrow (today now) and Friday have downgraded by a degree. Obs Hill is now forecasted to be 21C on Saturday and 26C on Sunday. I would personally add a couple to both days so Saturday 23C and Sunday 28C is what I'm going for. Saturday will be a nice day with light afternoon seabreezes but then the surge of heat coupled with strong winds moves in through the night and into Sunday.
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#1429004 - 27/07/2017 12:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Good detective work WR. Tall order to get a pair of days that high. Although if Obs is warmer today than forecast and tomorrow is heaps warmer than maybe do able but still prob no cigar (except for a bondi one with all the beach goers on the weeken he he). Now ferret out that most days 20 or over in July dude
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#1429035 - 27/07/2017 20:46 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I think a July averaged record is pretty well schlonged now given Obs came in under the forecast. And that is good news to me. i Dont like seeing records tumble too quickly. Sunday still a possible for a an all time high though. And thats cool as it has been a fairly long standing one. But its gotta be convincing. Not 26. Not 26.1 etc. Sydney is too altered in 27 years for there not to be some effect on nor west driven temps. 27 would be convincing
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#1429037 - 27/07/2017 21:05 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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And I think looking at the latest 06z GFS the record will in fact be touch and go with a max of 25 or 26C. 28C has looked possible for many days but not now.

So at this stage it will now not be a 'convincing' record or even any record.


Edited by Wave Rider (27/07/2017 21:10)
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#1429040 - 27/07/2017 22:28 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
And I think looking at the latest 06z GFS the record will in fact be touch and go with a max of 25 or 26C. 28C has looked possible for many days but not now.

So at this stage it will now not be a 'convincing' record or even any record.


Yep doesn't look as good now, Sunday looks to be cloudy all day.

I'll go for a top of 24c.
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#1429041 - 28/07/2017 07:08 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I often look at the "heat engine room" area, around the Cameron Corner (border NSW-SA-QLD) and surrounds, inland taipan territory, and how much heat is going to be directed this way.
Places like Birdsville are looking at 4 days in a row over 30C, and Bourke 28C for Sunday.
It looks like the NW airflow will be enough to break records.
Still, the build up and anticipation is nothing like August 1995, or other times, when you could just smell the record coming.

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#1429047 - 28/07/2017 09:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: DerekHV]
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Originally Posted By: DerekHV

Still, the build up and anticipation is nothing like August 1995, or other times, when you could just smell the record coming.


I know what you mean actually. Like today for example is too cold so it doesn't have that anticipation of some new records being broken in just 2 days time.

Yeah Eddy I see what you mean with the cloud cover. So I would actually also go 24C at this stage.


Edited by Wave Rider (28/07/2017 09:10)
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#1429068 - 28/07/2017 10:48 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
Yeah Eddy I see what you mean with the cloud cover. So I would actually also go 24C at this stage.


Yep its just a wait and see game now!!
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#1429086 - 28/07/2017 14:46 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Thought Moree might have clinched its July max record today but looks to have peaked at 26.5 as the wind wraps to the west and cools a bit. But its almost certain to do it over the next two days unless the low in the bight speeds up pushes a little further nth wards and budges the nor westers more into the far north of the state and the nth coast. Time will tell

The gradient is the biggest this winter with a diff approaching 80 hPa.


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#1429088 - 28/07/2017 15:28 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I was surprised at how windy today was and how cool it felt. The Sydney area only made it to 19-20 today after a relatively warm start. The chart shows a sneaky cold front off Sydney at 10:00AM.

Will be nice to feel 26 (degrees) again on Sunday.

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#1429092 - 28/07/2017 16:46 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Record heat in parts of WA today. Ikes. 35 in July .
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#1429094 - 28/07/2017 17:03 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I think Port Headland has the furthest back records in the Pilbara and has a 34.3 in 1948. Roebourne only back to 1957. It is warmer than PH so it might have reached 35 during the same winter heatwave. Only beat the old 2010 by 0.2.


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#1429095 - 28/07/2017 17:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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West Roebuck was even warmer than Roebourne. It reached 35.8.

Does anyone have the info of where and when was Australias hottest July day on record. lol. Seems crazy discussing heat stuff in July


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#1429102 - 28/07/2017 18:16 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Knot]
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Originally Posted By: Knot
West Roebuck was even warmer than Roebourne. It reached 35.8.

Does anyone have the info of where and when was Australias hottest July day on record. lol. Seems crazy discussing heat stuff in July
Here's a table with the 10 highest July maximums on record in Australia: http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/ex...=2017&mon=7

The July record high for Australia is 38.3C at Kalumburu, set last year on July 24th.
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#1429110 - 28/07/2017 19:28 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Thanx Seabreeze
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#1429113 - 28/07/2017 20:14 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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One further question Seabreeze. Seeing as the the top 10 July temps are in kind of the same geographic area (disregarding borders) ie the kimberely and into western NT, do you know what town may have the longest records? I thought Port Hedland might have longest in Pilbara. But north and nor west of there geographically who knows
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#1429118 - 28/07/2017 20:56 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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The link that Seabreeze put up there doesn't tell the whole story. The BoM only includes data from 1910 for the state and national extreme tables. They do this for 'consistency' purposes because that is Year 1 as far as their state and national monthly/seasonal/annual temperature averages goes too.

Some places may have longer records than 1910 and BoM will acknowledge those records if they are from stevenson screens, they are just not included in those tables.

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#1429120 - 28/07/2017 21:00 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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...for instance the December record for Tasmania is given as 39.8c at Friendly Beaches in 2015, but it was 40.6c in Hobart in 1897 (ss too ).


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#1429121 - 28/07/2017 21:18 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Some good points there Yep. There really is such a lack of long standing records. I mentioned during the summer heatwaves in NSw that there are only a few right on the coast places with some good long records.
A huge distance in latitude and varied geography and virtually nothing of records. Yamba is one. I think the other was Merimbula maybe. Obs Hill of course is kind of coastal I guess.
To me its useless when I hear a record is broken if the records are less than 75 years. 75 or more years takes in a few more of the big driver cycles.



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#1429123 - 28/07/2017 21:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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A lot of the pre-1957 daily temperature records exist on paper but haven't yet been digitised, so don't get picked up on a database trawl. This particularly affects the NSW coast, where the only ones which have been done are Sydney, Moruya Heads, Yamba and Port Macquarie (which I don't think is on the public website yet).

As far as northwest WA/NT are concerned, Halls Creek goes back pre-1910 but is at too high an elevation to be a candidate for national records. Otherwise for data back into the 1910s you're looking at the coastal sites (Darwin, Broome, Port Hedland, Derby). The two sites I know of in northern WA with significant amounts of undigitised pre-1957 data are Roebourne and Wyndham, the latter being the one with more potential for extreme winter heat (Wyndham held the Australian July record until last year).

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#1429124 - 28/07/2017 21:43 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Knot
One further question Seabreeze. Seeing as the the top 10 July temps are in kind of the same geographic area (disregarding borders) ie the kimberely and into western NT, do you know what town may have the longest records? I thought Port Hedland might have longest in Pilbara. But north and nor west of there geographically who knows
For those locations listed with the highest July temps on record and other weather stations nearby to them, according to the BOM site:

Kalumburu (1998-present)
Kalumburu Mission (closed, 1941-2005)

Wyndham (closed for temps**, 1968-2015)
Wyndham Aero (2000-present)
Wyndham Port (closed, 1938-1967***)

Timber Creek (closed for temps**, 1981-2014)

Fitzroy Crossing (1997-present)
Fitzroy Crossing Comp. (closed, 1957-1987***, very patchy after 1983)

Bradshaw's (site number 14954) records seem to be publically unviewable.

** the site is technically still open, but now only currently reports rainfall

*** The closed sites of Wyndham Port and Fitzroy Crossing Comp probably have high temp records privately viewable to the BOM beyond the range shown publically, as the average max temp records go back further (back to 1898 at Wyndham Port & 1955 at Fitzroy Crossing Comp) than the high temp records at these sites.

For future reference, all of the sites are searchable here, just select your appropriate data type: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/data/index.shtml?bookmark=200&view=text or use the map tab.
To get closed down sites as well, un-tick the "Only show open stations" checkbox, or on the map, tick the "Closed" checkbox.
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#1429126 - 28/07/2017 22:02 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Most, although not all, of the monthly mean temperatures have been digitised - the way to spot these is if the period of record for average maximum/minimum temperatures is different to that for extremes.

Another one you spot occasionally in NSW (not in any other states) is that the highest temperature of the month has been digitised but no other extremes have. Brewarrina is an example of this, with highest max back to 1911 but highest min and lowest max/min only to 1965.

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#1429138 - 29/07/2017 07:54 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Thank you Blair and Seabreeze for those posts.
Look fwd to more stats from places as they get digitalised.
Ahh it was Moruya not Merimbula.
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#1429141 - 29/07/2017 10:12 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Cold morning, 2C was even colder than the 3C forecast.
Today has been downgraded to only a 20C maximum.
Certainly tomorrow's crack at a record max will be something out of the blue, that comes from nowhere, much like 1990 in many ways. (as Blair has pointed out in the day to day thread, this was a cold winter apart from the record max)
Most records come at the back end of sustained heatwaves or periods of above average temps, the culmination of getting all the right things in place, and then finally line up the record for last big hit at it.
Anyways, the record is not gone yet.


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#1429147 - 29/07/2017 11:35 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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If it's to get to 27-28C as WR was predicting, it would have to get a move on you would think. 17.5C the peak so far at the airport, will need a rapid rise from here. 14.7C at obs hill

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#1429152 - 29/07/2017 11:51 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Long Road Home]
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Originally Posted By: Long Road Home
If it's to get to 27-28C as WR was predicting, it would have to get a move on you would think. 17.5C the peak so far at the airport, will need a rapid rise from here. 14.7C at obs hill


It looked like 27-28C was possible quite a few days ago for today but it obviously won't reach that now. I never specifically forecasted a maximum for today on this forum but on another one I was having a discussion with someone on Thursday and he and I both went 23C for today. And for Sunday he went 29 and I went 28C.

This was my response to Snowmi's forecast:

"I would still go 23C for Saturday (could change to 22) and 28C for Sunday. The next number I would guess for Sunday is 27C, given that there's not as many daylight hours to utilise the warm air above and mixing doesn't do as well in winter compared to summer. I'd probably forecast 29 if this setup occurred in summer."

I can copy and paste his part if you still don't believe me, but I'd prefer to keep it at that.


Edited by Wave Rider (29/07/2017 11:56)
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#1429154 - 29/07/2017 13:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Wouldn't bother defending yourself WR, half the forum don't listen to reason nor have the intelligence to understand just exaclty what the actual [censored] you are saying.

I barely pay any attention to this forum and I know you said Sunday.

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#1429158 - 29/07/2017 13:23 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Suprised Obs is still just sub 20. The colder than expected night having something to do with it. Some centres in land may not get as warm as forecast for same reason. But tomorrow a different story.
The 2013 record July is safe. All eyes on the 1990 record high tomorrow. A photo finish. Or a trounce. Or a dud. Time will tell
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#1429159 - 29/07/2017 13:53 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I don't really see the big deal even if it does break a record. One weather station not represented of 95% of Sydney getting a brief moment of warm air (Just a fraction of a degree over the previous record) and the media will be screaming "Hottest July day on record for Sydney" Even if most of Sydney was about 24/25C most of the day. Ho hum
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#1429161 - 29/07/2017 15:13 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Looks like it won't reach over 22 tomorrow anywhere except the north west of NSW.

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#1429163 - 29/07/2017 15:22 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Current site record for Mildura today. There is a warmer temp from 1892. So not a record for Mildura itself. Wish bom officials would point out to journalists that its a site record and that a warmer temp is listed from an earlier closed site. grrrrrr
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#1429165 - 29/07/2017 15:26 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: WarrenTheSnowMan]
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Originally Posted By: WarrenTheSnowMan

I barely pay any attention to this forum and I know you said Sunday.


Yep apart from more than 5 days ago, the posts where I had said 27-28C were talking about Sunday.

But now I would go 26C tomorrow as per forecast, but I reckon 27C is a good possibility if there is less cloud or something.

Today only has reached 21C (as per forecast) at Obs Hill but yet it has reached 22C here. But, it could still get warmer given the 850mb temps are warming rather quickly this afternoon.

Knot, you always have to approach those older records (before 1910) with caution as I'm pretty sure there wasn't standard Stevenson screens back then so maximums were probably higher than they should have been.


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#1429166 - 29/07/2017 15:32 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Funkyseefunkydo]
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Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Looks like it won't reach over 22 tomorrow anywhere except the north west of NSW.
Most likely lol
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#1429168 - 29/07/2017 16:00 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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The approaching cloud mass, which a few here mentioned a couple of days ago, could just keep a lid on things.
BTW, a nice frost here this morning!!

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#1429173 - 29/07/2017 16:34 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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AccessR temp chart 1pm have no where near the 26 forecast for Newcastle tomorrow. Neither does WZ or windy.com. I'm confused.


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#1429174 - 29/07/2017 16:36 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Sydney's skies are full of smoke from controlled burns.

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#1429175 - 29/07/2017 16:45 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Funkyseefunkydo]
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Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
AccessR temp chart 1pm have no where near the 26 forecast for Newcastle tomorrow. Neither does WZ or windy.com. I'm confused.


Yes but the temps at 925mb are looking to be up to 18C which translates to about 28C in the right conditions. So I would subtract one from that given it's winter and shorter daylight hours and then another for cloud cover. So 26C seems close to the mark to me.
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#1429182 - 29/07/2017 17:49 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Steve777]
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Sydney's skies are full of smoke from controlled burns.


There were certainly some decent burns today. One was just a few km's north of me here at Dural and the smoke plume was thick and huge. Thankfully, I haven't smelt a whiff of smoke all day as the light winds were north westerly and pushing it away from here, so, for a change, I've been unaffected here.
Another large burn off was visible from the top of Glenhaven Rd this morning somewhere in the lower Blue Mountains.
Out this way, today has been a perfect winters day. My max was a tad over 18 degrees here. Currently 12.8.

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#1429185 - 29/07/2017 18:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
AccessR temp chart 1pm have no where near the 26 forecast for Newcastle tomorrow. Neither does WZ or windy.com. I'm confused.


Yes but the temps at 925mb are looking to be up to 18C which translates to about 28C in the right conditions. So I would subtract one from that given it's winter and shorter daylight hours and then another for cloud cover. So 26C seems close to the mark to me.


The sun makes a huge difference in winter. If it's blocked there's no 26

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#1429189 - 29/07/2017 18:29 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Okay maybe 25C then.

We will soon see.

Re fire smoke: Yes there was a fair bit of it around the Northern suburbs including in Wollongong itself but none down here.


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#1429191 - 29/07/2017 18:51 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Just stick with it on 28c WR, it doesn't matter how right you are, you will always be wrong around here.

Surface temps are between 22-26c, the further out west you go the more the heat accumulates so theres atleast one 28c that will happen.

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#1429192 - 29/07/2017 18:55 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Lol well yeah, you never know it could reach 28 still but probably not. I'm still going to go for 26C though.

Might possibly be 28 down here with less cloud predicted and Foehn effect from the escarpment.


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#1429196 - 29/07/2017 19:18 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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The 27.6 reached at Richmond RAAF (old site) on 24/7/1990 is probably an indication of the potential for July heat in the Sydney area when all the ducks line up - clear skies, very hot air mass (relative to the season), no sea breeze and no cool change before late afternoon. Same goes for the 47.8 at that site on 14/1/1939.

Such a 4-way conjunction would be very rare, even more so near the coast.


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#1429201 - 29/07/2017 19:54 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Cool night, already down to 12C.
No indication that a 27 year July record is "on notice", that is for sure.
Tomorrow is going to be very interesting. Either a record, or another "close but no cigar" event for the year.

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#1429210 - 29/07/2017 20:32 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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It's quite cold in Sydney's West under clear skies, 6 to 8 degrees in places affected by inversions like Sydney Olympic Park and Bankstown. Coastal sites are still around 15. Mount Boyce is relatively warm, at 9 degrees, equivalent to about 16 at sea level. I've often noticed that adding 7 to mount Boyce gives you something close to OH, as is the case now. Both sites are higher than their surrounds and cold air drains away.


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#1429212 - 29/07/2017 20:49 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Good old Ood was only a degree short of its highest recorded July day. Some serious winter heat roiling about. 30 at Birdsville. Whats interesting is how much cooler Moree and Walgett were today. Relatively speaking. Quite a lot of wind shifts would explain it.

@WR I know bom says pre 1910 should be taken with a pinch of salt. But it could be that this arbitrary 1910 thing is to conceal some temps that the public doesnt 'need to know'. If bom has info that Mildura reading in 1892 was with a stevenson screen in situ, than I for one want to know that. The way raw data is massaged is suspicious. And the bom has been caught rounding cold temps up as recently as at Goulburn airport when a -10.4 was rounded to 10.


Interesting bout Mt Boyce Steve
Clear here. Encountered heaps of smoke in east lake Macquarie. Eyes are still stinging



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#1429214 - 29/07/2017 21:00 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777
It's quite cold in Sydney's West under clear skies, 6 to 8 degrees in places affected by inversions like Sydney Olympic Park and Bankstown. Coastal sites are still around 15. Mount Boyce is relatively warm, at 9 degrees, equivalent to about 16 at sea level. I've often noticed that adding 7 to mount Boyce gives you something close to OH, as is the case now. Both sites are higher than their surrounds and cold air drains away.


Yeah it's dropped to 6.3c here now as well, quite a dramatic drop really.

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#1429215 - 29/07/2017 21:02 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I thought tonight was supposed to be quite mild?
Currently 5.8c.
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#1429216 - 29/07/2017 21:07 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Places like Ivanhoe, Hay and Swan Hill are still in the 20s, so I suppose a late night spike in the temp is possible.

I still think the cloud will play a pivotal roll in the temps tomorrow.
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#1429217 - 29/07/2017 21:12 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: WarrenTheSnowMan]
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Just stick with it on 28c WR, it doesn't matter how right you are, you will always be wrong around here.



That's not correct and you need to let go of this attitude.
Everyone on this forum has an opinion or comment to make. They may not always agree with yours, or indeed others. It doesn't make each other right or wrong.
What would be appreciated is that you stop turning every post of yours into a thinly veiled shot at those that don't agree with your opinion.

The temp dropped briefly below 11 degree's here just after 7 pm. There was still no breeze here and it was feeling cold. It is now back up to 14.2 degrees. It's certainly a little windier outside and feels warmer. Camden is currently at 5.5 deg's with no breeze.


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#1429219 - 29/07/2017 21:19 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Now a strong smell of smoke about now that the Westerlies have resumed here. It will probably warm up later tonight away from the cold hollows.

[begin off topic rant]
I tend to disbelieve conspiracies. They generally require a degree of cooperation among the alleged conspirators that is difficult to credit.

On the other hand, the fossil fuel industry, like the tobacco industry before them, have decided they want to keep the game going for as long as they can. Not a vast conspiracy so much as those with most to lose through any decline in the fossil fuel industry backing the horse called 'self interest'.

The current Federal Government has, for a variety of reasons, including in the case of some individuals a genuine belief that there isn't a problem, determined that they will support and generally run interference for the fossil fuel industry.

Whatever, it doesn't matter what anyone believes, the outcome will be determine by the immutable laws of physics.
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#1429221 - 29/07/2017 21:27 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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#1429231 - 29/07/2017 23:06 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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All sorts of temperature weirdness going tonight on as others have noted.

Locally Bellambi is 16.5C in 25 knots of NW wind, while 20kms down the road Albion Park is 6.1C in an ESE.

Goulburn which was -0.9C, is now creeping upwards.
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#1429235 - 30/07/2017 02:53 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Going to be a warm day tomorrowm Just look how warm it is in some areasand and not only that but also low dew points.

Pfft only max of 22C tomorrow.. probably will be more than that by the time I wake up whebever that will be LOL.

Up to 17 at Bellambi Point right now with Nw winds. And strong.


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#1429236 - 30/07/2017 06:44 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Wow!
Canterbury temp went up from 4.8C to 16.1C between 3:18am and 4am this morning when the NW winds turned on.


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#1429241 - 30/07/2017 08:54 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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5:30am temps around Sydney
Camden 0.7
Bankstown 4.0
Canterbury 15.7
Sydney Olympic Park 17.3 (It's just hit 20.0 there before 9am)



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#1429242 - 30/07/2017 09:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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After a mildish night its already over 20 here. Its just unbelievable

Cloud appearing though


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#1429243 - 30/07/2017 09:16 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Around the state would you believe that at 9am this morning, on the official stats (maybe some not in yet) Moruya Airport and Ulladulla had the top temps with 21.9C each.

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#1429244 - 30/07/2017 09:38 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Currently 14C here, getting ready to go down to the bay for the day now.
It was quite cool early on, and now some cloud cover.
The 1990 record, for those stations with long term records, is still on notice apparently.
Newcastle (Nobbsy Head) record is 26.3C from 1990.
Nelson Bay's record is 24.7C from July 31 2014.

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#1429247 - 30/07/2017 09:57 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Should be an easy 25C here when that westerly mixes down.
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#1429248 - 30/07/2017 10:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Sun coming and going but an ezy 22 here so far. Nobbys must be under more cloud at only 16. Not sure if this cloud is gonna clear or increase.
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#1429249 - 30/07/2017 10:35 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yeah the sat pic is suggesting cloudy conditions for Newy itself and north of there.

Meanwhile it's sunny here with northerly winds. And wow already nudging 20C at Moss Vale and up to 24 at Nowra Ap so it's only a matter of time before 26C is reached here. That west wind has to mix down at some point surely.

And I notice that it is starting to cloud up over Sydney a little. Kizz will be stoked!
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#1429251 - 30/07/2017 11:15 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Temp has fallen here as cloud has got more entrenched. Colder air has reached Tibooburra etc. But Bourke warm. Could it be that south of Sydney is main warmth epicentre today
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#1429252 - 30/07/2017 11:18 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Plenty of thick high cloud here, can see some clear sky to my SW, currently 17c and no wind.

WR you should go close to your temp, looks like you will have plenty of sunshine.
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#1429253 - 30/07/2017 11:26 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Only Moruya Heads has digitalises records of a lenghthy nature and a 25.6 by the the coast is recorded in July 1926. One would assume that coastal towns nth of there were prob similar as Obs hill got a 25.7 on the same day which was the record till 1990. Getting close there at Ulladulla and Nowra
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#1429256 - 30/07/2017 11:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yeah Eddy it's perfectly sunny here apart from a bit of mid level cloud to my NE out to sea and towards Sydney.

I would not be one bit surprised if Albion Park got the warmest temp of the day for the southern half of the coast. Moruya Ap will be a close competitor though, it gets warm down there in a NWer although the cold front might hit there too early. Now 25 at Nowra and Ulladulla.

Temp and winds are slowly creeping up with 23.3C on my thermometer and the wind is northerly here.


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#1429257 - 30/07/2017 11:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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It's warm, windy and overcast with a smell of smoke. There's a clearing edge just to the West that will cross soon. Judging by the satelliet picture, it looks fairly clear for a couple of hours until more cloud streaming in from the NW arrives. Given that this cloud seems to be breaking up / dissolving as it comes off the ranges, the afternoon is likely to be fairly sunny.

The spread of minimum temperatures across the Sydney area was pretty amazing - from 0 at Camden to 14 at OH. yesterday. Maybe it would have been 14 degrees at the top of a 50 metre mast at Camden as well.

Where it was warm, today's minimum was the value recorded at 9:00. WE might still get a record, it's now 21-23 across Sydney. There will be some big diurnal ranges in any case, e.g. 0.1 - 26.x at Camden (32 -80 in the old money).

Might still be a new record today. Sydney sites are

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#1429259 - 30/07/2017 12:15 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Camden's gone from a min of 0.1 to 26.0 at 12:15pm today

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#1429260 - 30/07/2017 12:20 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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That is a huge diurnal range!!
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#1429261 - 30/07/2017 12:20 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Poor Derek will be spitting chips at the beach, just a full on overcast day here, yesterday was a far nicer day!! Hopefully for Derek we can some sunshine later in the arvo, about 19c now.

I see some Sydney sites have managed to crack 25c.
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#1429262 - 30/07/2017 12:23 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Parts of Sydney already 25. I think record will be smashed once cloud goes. Richmond still a few degrees to go top record from old site of 27.6 in 1990. The new site record there from last year will go probably
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#1429263 - 30/07/2017 12:25 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Penrith's taken the Sydney lead with 26.7C

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#1429264 - 30/07/2017 12:34 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Thats equal to current penrith site record. Heavens above. 30 is achievable.

Ulladulla beating the Moruya record of 25.7 with a 25.8. Wind has gone wsw at Gabo. But weak. The low has no grunt now.


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#1429265 - 30/07/2017 12:35 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Wind has turned light westerly here and temp up to 25.1C. So it shouldn't be long before Albion Park breaks out of the seabreeze. The wind feels so warm, it's weird.

Not sure if it will reach 30C there but 28 is certainly possible. I personally think it will just stay at 27C but I could be wrong.


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#1429269 - 30/07/2017 13:03 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I wanna go for a drive to the beach and maybe swim but I don't know if I'd be under the limit yet. Better not risk it at this point.

Getting bloody windy here now with a NNWer I guess. Nudging 26C now with 25.6 on my thermometer.

OMG it's 28C at Penrith now!! Maybe I should've stuck with my original forecast.


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#1429270 - 30/07/2017 13:08 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Obs Hill 25.0
Penrith 27.8

The Sun has moved further to the west and is now out at Bexley North

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#1429271 - 30/07/2017 13:08 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yes WR, I thought your post at 3am was alcohol affected!! grin poke

Penrith nudging 28c.

No real change here as yet.
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#1429272 - 30/07/2017 13:10 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: EddyG]
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Yes WR, I thought your post at 3am was alcohol affected!! grin poke


Lol just a little bit poke
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#1429273 - 30/07/2017 13:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Sydney record will be crushed. Penrith has beaten the old Richmond site. This is historic. And frightening.
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#1429274 - 30/07/2017 13:14 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Yes WR, I thought your post at 3am was alcohol affected!! grin poke


Lol just a little bit poke


I had a few myself yesterday arvo!!

Singleton doing the best in the Hunter 24.6c.

I reckon GFS cloud forecast was spot on for this event.
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#1429275 - 30/07/2017 13:19 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Obs Hill hit 26.0C at 1:06pm

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#1429276 - 30/07/2017 13:19 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yeah it certainly was spot on with everything really. GFS picked this pool of heat to arrive today from 8 days out with 17-18C 925mb temps in almost every model run, hence the crazy 27-28C forecasts I was going for. But my forecast was wrong anyway because my final prediction was 26C for the Sydney area.
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#1429277 - 30/07/2017 13:23 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Sydney Daily Records at the above has
June at 26.9
July at 25.9
Aug at 31.3

July has fallen
Now to break the June-July record


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#1429278 - 30/07/2017 13:24 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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You wont be the only one wrong WR, I went for 24c for here, so far my top has been 20.1, currently its 19.9c. Still no wind either.

Just to give you an idea how thick this cloud is, Tocal's top so far is 18.3c and Williamtown is 17.6c.
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#1429279 - 30/07/2017 13:26 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Heck why not shoot for the August record too.
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#1429280 - 30/07/2017 13:29 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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I would be fuming if I lived up there Eddy. You must be disappointed too? And yes I do feel sorry for Derek, he probably told his family that it would be nice weather! grin

Westerly has broken through. Instant 27C at Albion Park, 26.4 here. Could nudge 28 given that Moss Vale is on 21.
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#1429281 - 30/07/2017 13:34 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Don't get me wrong, its a pleasant enough day, it certainly doesn't feel cold, but yeah forecast of 26c, you would assume bright sunshine.
Looking at the sat pic we may get some late afternoon sunshine yet.
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#1429283 - 30/07/2017 13:39 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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OH has a new record 26.0 @1:20PM.

EDIT: so has Richmond 27.9 and Penrith 27.2.


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#1429284 - 30/07/2017 13:40 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yeah you certainly could get some sun, in which case you will get a late max.

Meanwhile it's now indeed nudging 28C. Moss Vale is now 21.4 and rising. 29C could happen, it's not out the question with such warm temps on the highlands.

I do hope that Obs Hill breaks the record by more than 0.1 of a degree.


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#1429285 - 30/07/2017 13:44 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Steve777]
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OH has a new record 26.0 @1:20PM.

EDIT: so has Richmond 27.9 and Penrith 27.2.


I think you mean Penrith 28.2?
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#1429286 - 30/07/2017 13:57 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: EddyG]
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Yes Eddy, a typo, was 28.2.

That cloud just won't clear. It's reforming in the Westerly stream over the sea and intruding on coastal areas. Sydney's West looks fairly clear. There might be some higher temps in the next hour or so if we can get more sun.

EDIT: Camden also has a new record 26.8 (records since 1971)
Sydney Airport equalled its record (27.0)


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#1429287 - 30/07/2017 14:11 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Bourke nudging 30. Holy smoke its hot down your way WR.


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#1429288 - 30/07/2017 14:23 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Unless we get a strong cold front soon to flush heat buildup inland the heat will hammer the coast somewhere again in a few weeks. Maybe less.


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#1429289 - 30/07/2017 14:48 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Maxed out at 27C from pretty much Camden to Sydney Airport
Obs Hill 26.5 at 2:11pm
Too much cloud now for much more heat I'd guess.

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#1429290 - 30/07/2017 15:00 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Slowly warming up here, currently 21c. No real sign of any sunshine as yet, sky is full of cloud and still no wind, the river, bay and ocean is like glass.
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#1429291 - 30/07/2017 15:05 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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And sure enough Sydney will be back in low twenties by end of the working week. What sux bout today is that it won't be capped off by a ripper cold change. Nothing can budge the sourh east highs.
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#1429292 - 30/07/2017 15:08 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Looks like Penrith has gone over the previous July record of 26.7C set in 2009 according to weatherzone.

Was 26.9 at 3pm . I truly hope we aren't in for another scorching summer.

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#1429293 - 30/07/2017 15:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Knot]
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Nothing can budge the sourh east highs.

Yes , i haven't followed weather very closely until a bit more recently but is this normal? The high pressure over the south east has been like a rock. Nothing can budge it.

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#1429294 - 30/07/2017 15:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Knot]
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Unless we get a strong cold front soon to flush heat buildup inland the heat will hammer the coast somewhere again in a few weeks. Maybe less.


Yeah we will probably get more heat soon enough, but not before at least 1 snowfall in the CT's next week and current model is showing up to 3 snowfalls POSSIBLE for next week but that's a different story.

Anyway it is clouding over slightly here, especially in the northern suburbs. Shame I couldn't crack 28 here (27.4 was the max) but Albion Park hit 28 on the dot.


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#1429295 - 30/07/2017 15:14 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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The heat gloaters couldn't care less about your summer discomfort out in the burbs and away from the nor easter. But rest assured there are some on here who are concerned about the heat impact in parts of Sydney.

P.s counting 123 before Homer chimes in he he he


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#1429296 - 30/07/2017 15:17 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Knot]
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The heat gloaters couldn't care less about your summer discomfort out in the burbs and away from the nor easter. But rest assured there are some on here who are concerned about the heat impact in parts of Sydney.

P.s counting 123 before Homer chimes in he he he


I care about it and I don't know if I could deal with heat that Penrith gets. I like warm weather but I wouldn't enjoy 40C + as a regular occurance.


Edited by Wave Rider (30/07/2017 15:18)
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#1429298 - 30/07/2017 15:21 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Brewon (never heard of it - about half way between Walgett and Brewarrina) scored 30.1, the hottest in the state among automatically reporting stations.

The cloud's closed in over the past hour or so and three PM has passed. I think we have our maxima for today and a few new July records.

At OH, July remains the only month when 80F hasn't been recorded (today was 79.7).


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#1429299 - 30/07/2017 15:22 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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@WR. I know you care as your caring nature is evident from your posting history. I had a few others in mind

Distant thunder


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#1429300 - 30/07/2017 15:39 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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There's an out of control bushfire right near the centre of town. I must've jinxed it because I did say that bushfires were possible today with such tinder dry bush and strong winds. But I never thought it'd be so close to home.
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#1429301 - 30/07/2017 16:16 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Looks to be under control now.
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#1429302 - 30/07/2017 16:25 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Looks like our max's have been reached here in the Hunter, Lake Mac and Necknock Airport share the spoils with 25.3c. Not sure what it got to here at home as I'm currently at work, but at a guess I reckon about 22c.
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#1429304 - 30/07/2017 16:34 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Good to see that the fire is under control. I see that Albion Park has had under 3 mm of rain since June 11 (7 weeks). I was out in the countryside yesterday and noted how dry it looked - frost plus lack of rain.

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'Heat gloater' - that has a bit of a Seinfield feel about it.

Not much gloating material in the next few days except for people who are really keen on cool to mild, with a bit of light rain tomorrow. Maybe some heavier showers Thursday.

Here's the BOM forecast for next Sunday as it currently stands:

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Sunday 6 August
Min ##   Max ####        Sydney area
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#1429305 - 30/07/2017 16:38 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Steve777]
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Here's the BOM forecast for next Sunday as it currently stands:

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Min ##   Max ####        Sydney area
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Surely someone on here can decipher that!! Lol
The Max could be a bit of a worry.
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#1429306 - 30/07/2017 16:46 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Steve777]
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Good to see that the fire is under control. I see that Albion Park has had under 3 mm of rain since June 11 (7 weeks). I was out in the countryside yesterday and noted how dry it looked - frost plus lack of rain.


It's certainly a bit of a worry. I didn't realise it had been THAT dry though. No wonder the grass is dying.
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#1429308 - 30/07/2017 16:51 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Was at the bay all day, barely got to 19C.
Even the locals were saying, "where is the 26C/ 27C day?"
It was decidedly cold at times.
At least we found a good dog beach, thanks to WR from the Gong.
Apparently got to 25C at Maitland, but was not here for it, and there are no long term records anyway.

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#1429309 - 30/07/2017 16:56 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Poor Derek will be spitting chips at the beach, just a full on overcast day here, yesterday was a far nicer day!! Hopefully for Derek we can some sunshine later in the arvo, about 19c now.

I see some Sydney sites have managed to crack 25c.



Yes, you hit the nail on the head.
A real fizzer on the bay today.

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#1429310 - 30/07/2017 17:17 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: DerekHV]
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Originally Posted By: DerekHV
Originally Posted By: EddyG
Poor Derek will be spitting chips at the beach, just a full on overcast day here, yesterday was a far nicer day!! Hopefully for Derek we can some sunshine later in the arvo, about 19c now.

I see some Sydney sites have managed to crack 25c.



Yes, you hit the nail on the head.
A real fizzer on the bay today.


Yeah I feel for you Derek, nothing worse when the forecast promises so much and you pack the family up and take that drive only to be highly disappointed. TBH it never ever really got close here.

Anyway I'm always happy to give you a "what its like here update" on your next trip to the Bay!!
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#1429320 - 30/07/2017 19:26 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Didn't get above 22 in Newcastle today. Just as I thought.

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#1429321 - 30/07/2017 19:45 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Of the long-term NSW stations I track, six have set July records (Bourke, Walgett, Sydney, Richmond, Nowra, Point Perpendicular) - sometimes this involves merging data from multiple sites. I suspect that Bathurst Ag will join them when the numbers come in in the morning (their record is 20.5 and the airport got to 21.0).

I doubt if the NSW record (31.7) was broken, but Mungindi and Brewarrina will still be worth a look when they report.

Incidentally, Brewon is a new AWS (has only been going for a couple of months) - part of a joint project with NSW DPI to improve network coverage in western NSW. The new sites are targeted at filling holes in the network so won't necessarily be close to places that most people will have heard of.

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#1429324 - 30/07/2017 19:59 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Funkyseefunkydo]
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Thanks for that info Blair.

Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Didn't get above 22 in Newcastle today. Just as I thought.


Well I'm back home now and I've checked my WS and my top temp was 20.9c

Just a stock standard winters day.


Edited by EddyG (30/07/2017 19:59)
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#1429330 - 30/07/2017 21:05 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Funkyseefunkydo]
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Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Didn't get above 22 in Newcastle today. Just as I thought.


But you actually said this:

Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Looks like it won't reach over 22 tomorrow anywhere except the north west of NSW.


Which was never going to be the case.
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#1429331 - 30/07/2017 21:19 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Didn't get above 22 in Newcastle today. Just as I thought.


But you actually said this:

Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
Looks like it won't reach over 22 tomorrow anywhere except the north west of NSW.


Which was never going to be the case.


Originally Posted By: Funkyseefunkydo
I'm confused.


We will have to give the benefit of doubt grin
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#1429332 - 30/07/2017 21:25 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Might as well have a summer like night as well. I still don't think anyone has a real clue why fronts are not impacting NSW. Yes I know all this Sam, enso, iod mumbo jumbo gets bandied about. But is there something else. That is keeping this prolonged pattern in place.
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#1429333 - 30/07/2017 21:28 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Nearly 9.30pm and its still 21c in Sydney
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#1429334 - 30/07/2017 21:35 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: EddyG]
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Nearly 9.30pm and its still 21c in Sydney


Pretty amazing really, still 20 here. Feels genuinely warm.
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#1429348 - 31/07/2017 08:13 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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There's a chance of some high minimums at the reset. Obs Hill will be somewhere around 15.6C (we had a 16.5C min last July though so not that unusual I guess)

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#1429350 - 31/07/2017 08:44 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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For all of those bemoaning the lack of warm temps, made it to 28c in Penrith yesterday. Smashed the old record by 1.3c.

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#1429353 - 31/07/2017 09:41 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Record highest mins in Newcastle and around my way. Newcastle was 19 most of the night.
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#1429355 - 31/07/2017 09:47 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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... But the minimum was achieved yesterday at around 9am so no record for Newcastle unfortunately lol. Came in at around 14c.

Things definitely fell into place yesterday for Sydney area! Models backed off on cloud and upped the airmass temperature and that was it! Record not broken by a huge amount, but yeah another record falls. Soon, all max temp records will post 2000!

July average max record shouldn't be broken given the forecast max today smile



Edited by Ben (31/07/2017 09:47)

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#1429357 - 31/07/2017 09:55 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Saturday here started VERY fresh at -6 (thereabouts) - nothing official yet.

It wobbled it's way to around 17.

Sunday morning was about 4 or 5.

During Sunday the breeze actually made it feel cooler than anticipated. However it did indeed (as Blair said) get above 21 at the airport.

Still waiting for the Ag Station number. It will be very close to or will exceed the long standing record of 20.5.

Last night was very mild indeed - sweated under the doonah!!

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#1429358 - 31/07/2017 09:58 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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lol. Of course Ben. I always balls this 9am reset. Was a warm nite regardless
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#1429361 - 31/07/2017 10:15 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Bathurst Ag came in at 20.1, so no record there.

Highest in NSW was 30.2 at Brewarrina.


Edited by Blair Trewin (31/07/2017 10:15)

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#1429363 - 31/07/2017 10:27 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
DaveM Offline
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Thanks Blair- close but no cigar.

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#1429364 - 31/07/2017 11:48 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
DaveM Offline
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Bit surprised really at that temp reading. The Ag Station almost always reads higher than the airport for max temps.

Still, maybe something else at play.

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#1429367 - 31/07/2017 12:00 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Yes, I was a bit surprised too.

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#1429370 - 31/07/2017 13:09 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Is it possible of a 1 degree gradation reading error? eg 21.1 not 20.1?

In reality I guess we can't know.

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#1429391 - 31/07/2017 15:24 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Couldn't rule it out, but there's no way a 1-degree error (even if one occurred) would be detectable.

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#1429398 - 31/07/2017 16:10 Re: NSW- Possible record-breaking July 'heatwave', 29th & 30th July 2017 [Re: Wave Rider]
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Just the way it is smile

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