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#1430443 - 11/08/2017 18:14 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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The irony is QANTAS does not seem to support workers rights in Australia, the way they shut down so much and moved it off shore.

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#1430444 - 11/08/2017 18:18 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Also with Turbull saying he will support the US should NK do something stupid. Why is there no postal vote or plebiscite on that?

I am sure it has far greater ramifications for the country then SSM.

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#1430446 - 11/08/2017 18:21 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
The irony is QANTAS does not seem to support workers rights in Australia, the way they shut down so much and moved it off shore.


Ironic indeed. I posted it as I believe they will be just the first of many companies coming out in support of the yes campaign.

I can't imagine there will be many campaigning the other way.
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#1430452 - 11/08/2017 21:40 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Also with Turbull saying he will support the US should NK do something stupid. Why is there no postal vote or plebiscite on that?

I am sure it has far greater ramifications for the country then SSM.

Malcolm Turnbull says Australia would enact the ANZUS Treaty and “come to the aid of the United States” if North Korea launched an attack against the western superpower.
The ANZUS Treaty was forged at the height of the Korean War and North Korea views the entire US alliance system including the US and all its allies as a threat and target.

http://australianpolitics.com/1951/09/01/anzus-treaty-text.html


Edited by Red Watch (11/08/2017 21:44)

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#1430454 - 11/08/2017 22:17 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
It's a voluntary poll Seira, non binding and then still requires legislation.

Ok, thank you smile .

I didn't realise public voting could be voluntary depending on legislative changes...might have to check that myself.

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#1430456 - 11/08/2017 22:49 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: Seira
Originally Posted By: Seira
Originally Posted By: Kino
It's a voluntary poll Seira, non binding and then still requires legislation.

Ok, thank you smile .

I didn't realise public voting could be voluntary depending on legislative changes...might have to check that myself.


The reason is cause of the nature of the "poll" it has no underpinning legislation so only voluntary. If it was a plebiscite or referendum then compulsory.

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#1430480 - 12/08/2017 15:06 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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#1430484 - 12/08/2017 15:35 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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LMAO. Bet that must hurt his Bronze age agenda.
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#1430491 - 12/08/2017 17:41 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Abbott is clearly deluded re this but there is a bigger picture happening - he sees it as an opportunity to wedge Turnbull and wrest back the PM'ship. And if the result is 'NO', Turnbull is in significant danger IMO. But it'll be Dutton not Abbott they turn too - Bishop has nailed her flag to the mast and is damaged goods.

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#1430508 - 12/08/2017 19:18 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Abbott is clearly deluded re this but there is a bigger picture happening - he sees it as an opportunity to wedge Turnbull and wrest back the PM'ship. And if the result is 'NO', Turnbull is in significant danger IMO. But it'll be Dutton not Abbott they turn too - Bishop has nailed her flag to the mast and is damaged goods.


Agree on all points.
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#1430511 - 12/08/2017 20:10 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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I should add I don't rate Dutton as any better than Abbott. Morrison wouldn't be happy either.
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#1430512 - 12/08/2017 21:45 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Dutton is a scumbag. Remember this? http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/p...911-gjkf0z.html

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#1430513 - 12/08/2017 21:56 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Mega]
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Dutton is a scumbag. Remember this?


Only too well.
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#1430519 - 13/08/2017 00:41 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Originally Posted By: Seira
Originally Posted By: Seira
Originally Posted By: Kino
It's a voluntary poll Seira, non binding and then still requires legislation.

Ok, thank you smile .

I didn't realise public voting could be voluntary depending on legislative changes...might have to check that myself.


The reason is cause of the nature of the "poll" it has no underpinning legislation so only voluntary. If it was a plebiscite or referendum then compulsory.

Yes,....I didn't realise voluntary voting was possible in this country, if a public vote was required. I have always thought public voting is compulsory, regardless.

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#1430523 - 13/08/2017 00:58 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Do not bother responding to my last post as I'm unlikely to respond to the reply.

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#1430541 - 13/08/2017 14:55 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Abbott is clearly deluded re this but there is a bigger picture happening - he sees it as an opportunity to wedge Turnbull and wrest back the PM'ship. And if the result is 'NO', Turnbull is in significant danger IMO.


You would not think they would be stupid enough to put Rudd, I mean Abbott back into a position of power.

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#1430548 - 13/08/2017 19:55 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: Seira
Do not bother responding to my last post as I'm unlikely to respond to the reply.



Lol ok, not sure what I did?

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#1430551 - 13/08/2017 20:08 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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It's not about you Kino, it's about the thread.

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#1430552 - 13/08/2017 20:18 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Maybe a bit of truth once in a while doesn't hurt, because stuff certainly ain't gonna change if the same thing is done again and again in the same way...expecting a different outcome.

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#1430556 - 13/08/2017 21:56 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: Seira
Maybe a bit of truth once in a while doesn't hurt, because stuff certainly ain't gonna change if the same thing is done again and again in the same way...expecting a different outcome.


Agree. But alas it's human kind.

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