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#1434827 - 23/09/2017 09:46 Re: Crocs [Re: Ronfishes]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ronfishes
Obviously known to at least some locals otherwise it wouldn't have been shot.


I was talking to a neighbour ( Clinton) who comes down here from Rocky and camps on his block to go fishing in the creeks here. He knew the croc well and so did fisheries. They left it alone as there were no complaints made about it and understood the importance of the croc in the system.

He works with fisheries all the time in his job and said that if they had to move it they would have paid the money to locate it to a farm as was is a rare animal in size terms but had no complaints and animal was not displaying any aggression to anyone.

So no, some rednecked dickhead shooting it is NOT the same thing as stated above.
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#1434829 - 23/09/2017 10:04 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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You're missing the point CF. It would be the same outcome for the area, i.e. supposed power vacuum created due to "removal" of this big one.

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#1434838 - 23/09/2017 11:03 Re: Crocs [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
It said that on one hand Ron, then next thing, If we knew about we would have removed it.

Whats the difference between removing it and someone shooting it I wonder ?

Same outcome!

(As I understand it, maybe I've got it wrong)

ie-

There are concerns the shooting death of a 5.2-metre crocodile will create a power vacuum in the local population with warnings younger crocs will become "increasingly aggressive" as they fight for the position left vacant.

"If this iconic crocodile had been reported to us, officers would have immediately taken steps to remove it, in accordance with the Queensland Crocodile Management Plan."


I wonder how long this "power vacuum " and "increasingly aggressive" behaviour lasts for ..?..surely the next larger croc more or less takes over by default wouldnt he...?..How long will the smaller crocs challenge for, before moving on..?..how long before it becomes known to the croc population that someone "owns " a specific territory..?..

Around the Tully/Mission Beach area waterways crocs generally become widely known by boaties,fisherman and farmers once they reach about 4m plus..

As mentioned its just a shame that he couldnt have been moved to a croc farm for his retirement..

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#1434849 - 23/09/2017 11:55 Re: Crocs [Re: Jax]
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Originally Posted By: Jax
You're missing the point CF. It would be the same outcome for the area, i.e. supposed power vacuum created due to "removal" of this big one.


No. I saw the point perfectly thank-you.

Originally Posted By: ColdFront
They left it alone as there were no complaints made about it and understood the importance of the croc in the system.



It still does not make it ok to shoot the animal when it can be relocated to a park. The authorities were already aware of the animal's presence but opted for the smarter option of not disrupting the territorial consequences of moving it to begin with. A point already made.



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#1434901 - 23/09/2017 19:44 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Nobody said it was OK to shoot the big croc, just that is was the same outcome if it was removed by either method.

Seems simple enough.

And also this quote just to confuse readers....

"He would be very cautious and certainly he didn't come up in our latest surveys of that river," he said.
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#1434907 - 23/09/2017 20:41 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Leaving it alone seems pretty simple too.

Authorities thought a large croc had met foul play near Port Douglas right under the bridge on the Bruce Highway a few years back until he showed up again at his usual haunt with a female in tow.
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#1435661 - 01/10/2017 17:56 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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These guys are having a real feast at the Montgomery Island in the Kimberley.

Croc feast on whale carcass.
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#1436343 - 08/10/2017 13:49 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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#1436349 - 08/10/2017 14:25 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Maybe these guys know who shot the Fitzroy River croc. They were talking about it back in April.
https://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/biggest-ive-seen-massive-croc-spotted-in-fitzroy/3171891/

Interesting that 4 of the 5 comments underneath disagree with removing them. Not everyone is a redneck it seems.
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#1436975 - 13/10/2017 20:21 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Elderly woman goes missing and is suspected to have been taken by a croc near Port Douglas
This is a tragic set of circumstances but hardly the crocs fault, Hopefully they leave it be but they probably won't

http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/national/m...f52f-1507886023

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#1437000 - 13/10/2017 22:53 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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The old woman suffering dementia is clearly to blame. Maybe they could relocate the nursing home, that'd fix the problem...

(Insert sarcastic smiley here for those that missed it)



Edited by Jax (13/10/2017 22:56)
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#1437009 - 14/10/2017 05:30 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Long years ago I used to walk my dog there on the mudflats then on the beach verge where bonduc shrubs grew to collect the hard grey seeds but with cyclone Joy I decided I'd rather not live on the esplanade with slamming winds and potentially flooding tides and bought property 6km inland. The unexpected benefit for me is the removal from danger where crocs are allowed to grow and multiply until no beach, stream or river is safe anymore.

It seems childhood is no longer a time of roaming and having fun, the brainwashing of greenie school teachers has ruined that. The 'they were here first' brigade...

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#1437036 - 14/10/2017 10:17 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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It must be a horrible thing to live with a constant fear of things that go bump in the night and feel the need to blame that fear on a select group rather than your own ability to deal with your phobias .

Meanwhile in other news ,authorities are searching for an aircraft last seen near Mission Beach where it is believe to have played a part in the deaths of three individuals. It was last seen heading west and grave fears are held for a fourth person seen in the nose of the plane. It is described as Caucasian, approximately 8 mtrs long with an average build. If seen please call authorities as it is considered winged and dangerous.


See what I did there? Almost as low as blaming a crocodile for the dementia of the poor woman who lost her life. Now cue the faux outrage.
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#1437048 - 14/10/2017 11:18 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Crikeys, another thread bites the dust. Now I'm off to upset the balance of nature because I feel entitled to go for a stroll on a mudflat.. 😮 peace out.
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#1437057 - 14/10/2017 11:59 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Watch the mozzies RF. They can be fatal too up there.

....and the stone fish...and the cone shells.
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#1437090 - 14/10/2017 15:09 Re: Crocs [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
.... See what I did there?....


yep! show the signs of rambling of someone suffering from severe cold turkey withdrawals from the Aus Politics thread (being locked). Help would only be a phone call away, IF only the addiction would allow you.;)


Edited by Gad (14/10/2017 15:11)

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#1437093 - 14/10/2017 15:37 Re: Crocs [Re: Gad]
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Originally Posted By: Gad
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
.... See what I did there?....


yep! show the signs of rambling of someone suffering from severe cold turkey withdrawals from the Aus Politics thread (being locked). Help would only be a phone call away, IF only the addiction would allow you.;)


Hardly. But that's an interesting take on things from the far right. Thanks for sharing.

Instead it's the rantings of someone sick to death of the selfish attitude of those that move to an area rich in diversity and then expect that diversity to make way for their lifestyle choice. 4 deaths in Qld from crocs in quarter of a century. Oh noes, Cull time.

Man's lack of ability to coexist will be his downfall.

....and that Jax character groaned extensively at people from eastern states butting in when they had a couple of shark attacks in WA a few years back. Staggering double standard

....and there are various political forums open around the traps wink



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#1437098 - 14/10/2017 15:47 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Just don't mention 'climate change' lolz.

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#1437099 - 14/10/2017 15:48 Re: Crocs [Re: desieboy]
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Shoosh you laugh
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#1437112 - 14/10/2017 18:02 Re: Crocs [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
It must be a horrible thing to live with a constant fear of things that go bump in the night and feel the need to blame that fear on a select group rather than your own ability to deal with your phobias .


I suggest you continue with the subject of the thread instead of attacking a poster.

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