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#1441271 - 15/11/2017 21:51 World Cup - Russia 2018
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Aussie's are through to their 4th consecutive World Cup.

Oh man I'm so happy!!! grin grin grin

Well played Australia!!!
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#1441275 - 15/11/2017 22:22 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Rough game but awesome result, so happy!

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#1441279 - 15/11/2017 23:16 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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If Tim Cahill's second half header had gone in it would have been an incredible goal. He had his back facing the goal when he made contact! He's been a great player for Australia over the years, and will be missed when he retires.

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#1441293 - 16/11/2017 09:26 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Excellent result and very happy we are going to Russia!!
Tbh though, Honduras were rubbish.

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#1441324 - 16/11/2017 14:44 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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I was there , was a great time. Honduras never fired a shot, oz did what it needed to do.

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#1441344 - 16/11/2017 17:35 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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I wonder why soccer isn't the major football code in Australia, or indeed the dominant sport as it is in most of the rest of the world? It would be good if it was, as over the years we might have become a world power in the game, up there with the likes of Germany and Brazil. We play other British sports like cricket and rugby, and have been a major force in the former on the world stage for some time, so our dearth of international success in soccer is puzzling. This is especially so, seeing that soccer is very popular at grassroots level (most popular sport in the country I've heard?), and we've produced some top ranked players over the years who have enjoyed individual success overseas.

It's indeed strange that none of Britain's English-speaking former colonies (Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa) are traditional world powers in a game invented in Britain (with the exception of the US women's team perhaps?). Maybe the fact that these countries call it soccer rather than football might have something to do with it?

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#1441347 - 16/11/2017 17:57 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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We have actually discussed this, and touched on it last night. I was in a Corp box with a bunch of our partners who are a mix of Italians, Croatians and phillipinos, only two of us are beyond 2nd generation Aussies. Everyone in the box was passionate about the Socceroos , but us two 5th gen Aussies were the least passionate of the lot. Funnily enough , the Italians pit it down to the fact that the theatre of the game , as they put it , which includes diving , faking injury etc to suck up time , all that garbage , actually doesnít fit well with the old school Aussie ethos of play hard but play fair. Where as those countries used to it donít see it as an issue. I reckon our Italian mates maybe onto it. Hence the reason itís the biggest sport for juniors but the numbers fall right away at about age 16, when the world changes for young blokes. Rolling around faking an injury would have you seen as a pussy. And thatís not on.

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#1441369 - 16/11/2017 22:12 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Honduras were rubbish.


Agreed, they were playing for a draw, but to the Aussie's credit they did all the attacking.

I think the game now is so much bigger than what it was 20 years ago in Australia, all thanks to the socceroo's making the previous 3 WC and plus the ever successful A league gaining in popularity each season!!
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#1441413 - 17/11/2017 09:28 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Soccer has in the past been more of political football here in Australia then it has been now.

I still remember teams having an ethnicity to them in the NSL.

Sydney Olympic (Greek)
Sydney United (formerly Sydney Croatia)
Marconi Stallions (Italian)
Adelaide Juventus (Italian)
Preston Makedonia (Macedonia)
Melbourne Croatia (Croatian)
Brisbane Lions (known as Hollandia - Holland)

I was glad when A-League came into being, as it did try and minimise the damage that was done in the past.

Even in the Illawarra region where I grew up, most of the local clubs were governed by the majority of the members by their ethnicity. My old man played for the Warilla Wanderers (1st grade) and later for Port Kembla, he was usually relegated to 2nd grade because of most of the time the club was generally controlled by one major ethnicity, and because he wasn't of that group, he was pushed back, even though a better player.

I think Johnny Warren, Les Murray and Frank Lowry knew that was holding back in Australian soccer. They fought hard to change the attitude of the club and game controllers and knew that we produced some terrific talent, but retaining that talent was another thing when it came to the local game, and also how the rest of the world viewed Australia's position as a nation regarding it players. How many times that Australian Players playing in overseas clubs were not released by those clubs for national games?

Not only that, having to compete in the Asian district instead of the lowly Oceania, at least we had some decent opposition to see where we are truly at, instead of playing against lower standard teams, only to be found out when playing against a stronger South American country to qualify for the World Cup.

While it may take some time for the game to really become a force in terms of national sports, but considering how many types of sports we do play here in Australia, and considering the size of our population, we do well to punch above our weight.

And yes, trying to milk penalties is not Australian at all. We are tough like that, and this is because we have to be tough in our country. We have to deal with dry hot climate for most of the country, some of the most poisonous snakes, spiders in the world live in our backyards, killer kangaroos, and even our coast line is being patrolled by sharks. Crikey!

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#1441818 - 20/11/2017 23:41 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Originally Posted By: Homer
Honduras were rubbish.


Agreed, they were playing for a draw, but to the Aussie's credit they did all the attacking.

I think the game now is so much bigger than what it was 20 years ago in Australia, all thanks to the socceroo's making the previous 3 WC and plus the ever successful A league gaining in popularity each season!!



When it comes to sports that Australia hasn't traditionally been strong in, we often don't start taking an interest in them until Aussies start doing well in them on the world stage. Examples are 500cc motorcycle racing (Wayne Gardiner then Mick Doohen) and marathon/long distance running (Robert de Castella, Steve Monaghetti and Lisa Martin).

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#1441822 - 21/11/2017 00:01 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: J Pabo]
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Originally Posted By: J Pabo

While it may take some time for the game to really become a force in terms of national sports, but considering how many types of sports we do play here in Australia, and considering the size of our population, we do well to punch above our weight.

And yes, trying to milk penalties is not Australian at all.

Perhaps in many soccer strong countries there aren't many other sports to choose from, especially poorer countries, where it doesn't cost much to kick a soccer ball around.

Agreed about it being not in our nature to milk penalties or try other similar carry on when on the sporting field.

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#1441983 - 22/11/2017 12:50 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Sad to here that Ange has quit as coaching career today.

No doubt he has his reasons, but he gets two thumbs up from me, and all the best with his future career.

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#1442090 - 23/11/2017 14:12 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: Rsav]
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Originally Posted By: Rsav
It's indeed strange that none of Britain's English-speaking former colonies (Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa) are traditional world powers in a game invented in Britain (with the exception of the US women's team perhaps?).

I've just checked the rankings and realised that this only applies for men. For women there are currently four English-speaking nations in the top ten, and five in the top twenty: http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/women/index.html

Speaking of the fairer sex, haven't the Matildas been doing well lately? They won the Tournament of Nations (beating the USA for the first time) and have just won six on the trot, the latest being their 3-0 win over China last night, which included two beaut goals from outside the box (one of them by Sam Kerr): http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/sam-kerr-propels-matildas-to-victory-against-china/9181964


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#1465498 - 12/06/2018 20:47 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Well its getting very close now to the first game of the WC-2018. For me there will be plenty of sleepless nights coming up.

Who is your tip for the WC?

For me I think Germany will go a long way in defending their title, but my tip is for Belgium to go the whole way.
And the Aussie's to make the round of 16 and perhaps cause an upset or two along the way!!
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#1465516 - 13/06/2018 10:36 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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yep I'm a bit of a fan of Belgium. If they don't I think France.

Going to be tough for the Socceroos. As much as I'd like to see them go through I can't see them beating France or Denmark, and Peru have been in such good form lately.

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#1465625 - 14/06/2018 19:34 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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I just hope Cahill gets a goal in this one as well. And that at the end of the tournament they have an awards ceremony for best actor wink

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#1465646 - 15/06/2018 03:24 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Host nation off to a flying start beating the Saudi's 5-0 who've had 63% possession incredibly enough.
Cheryshev, a youth product of Real madrid scored 2 of their goals.

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#1465724 - 16/06/2018 10:18 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Probably just watched the best game the tournament will see this year. Spain V Portugal. Not usually a big Soccer fan due to the simulation but they are great to watch when playing at their best

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#1465772 - 16/06/2018 22:24 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Well the Aussie certainly weren't disgraced tonight, a suspect penalty and a fortuitous goal against them. France certainly didn't look like one of the favourites to win the WC cup tonight.
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#1465774 - 16/06/2018 23:00 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Well the Aussie certainly weren't disgraced tonight, a suspect penalty and a fortuitous goal against them. France certainly didn't look like one of the favourites to win the WC cup tonight.


Absolutely Eddy.
We were far from humiliated and took it to one of the best teams in the world. France were lucky. We were not.
At least the REAL football in Australia has a world tournament to play in. Look out Denmark and Peru.

BTW, which country is the next "All Australian AFL team" playing against?

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#1465776 - 16/06/2018 23:52 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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It goes to show that a the most expensive team in the whole competition and two of the wingers worth 300 million euros can be held back by the Australian spirit. I'm going to miss all the controversy though with the new VAR system being used. Also we have a bright future ahead with people like Daniel Arzani (who went to my high school) smile , coming through the youth program.


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#1465777 - 17/06/2018 00:05 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: ashestoashes]
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Originally Posted By: ashestoashes
It goes to show that a the most expensive team in the whole competition and two of the wingers worth 300 million euros can be held back by the Australian spirit. I'm going to miss all the controversy though with the new VAR system being used. Also we have a bright future ahead with people like Daniel Arzani (who went to my high school) smile , coming through the youth program.


Yep.
Exactly!!!

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#1465798 - 17/06/2018 10:10 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: Homer]
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Well the Aussie certainly weren't disgraced tonight, a suspect penalty and a fortuitous goal against them. France certainly didn't look like one of the favourites to win the WC cup tonight.


Absolutely Eddy.
We were far from humiliated and took it to one of the best teams in the world. France were lucky. We were not.
At least the REAL football in Australia has a world tournament to play in. Look out Denmark and Peru.

BTW, which country is the next "All Australian AFL team" playing against?


Yep, agreed.

I had some customers come in yesterday and said that the frogs will flog us, my response to them was an upset is on the cards if the "REF" was fair!!
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#1465803 - 17/06/2018 12:21 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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And a big ....you to Optus for stealing the coverage from free to air TV!! mad
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#1465805 - 17/06/2018 12:44 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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It looks the VAR got the call wrong for the penalty they missed one vital angle showing the ball was touched by Risdon before he took out Greizmann's legs.
www.facebook.com/optussport/videos/650415131976500/

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#1465810 - 17/06/2018 13:39 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: ashestoashes]
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It looks the VAR got the call wrong for the penalty they missed one vital angle showing the ball was touched by Risdon before he took out Greizmann's legs.
www.facebook.com/optussport/videos/650415131976500/


You are correct. Risdon definitely gets a touch.
Also, if Greizmann wanted to stay on his feet, he could have. Went down like a bag of [censored].

The problem I have with this decision is that the rules state that the referee's decision can only be overturned if there is conclusive evidence that the original decision was wrong. How could the VAR monkey possibly have decided this was the case on the evidence provided?




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#1465827 - 17/06/2018 17:10 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: Homer]
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You are correct. Risdon definitely gets a touch.
Also, if Greizmann wanted to stay on his feet, he could have. Went down like a bag of [censored].


Absolutely right, Greizmann only goes down once he realizes the ball is out of reach and the ball is in the safe hands of Ryan who was perfectly positioned at the time.



Originally Posted By: Homer


How could the VAR monkey possibly have decided this was the case on the evidence provided?



Because like past world cups, the top teams are protected species!!
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#1465863 - 18/06/2018 01:35 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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If it was a penalty the ref should've awarded it straight away, but instead he changes his mind, stops the game 30 seconds later to use this video thing (which I haven't even heard of up until that point, and hasn't been used in 100 years of FIFA up until yesterday?) Not only that but to slow the video to 100th of the speed and still get it wrong. Give me a break, match fixing at it's finest. Argentina and France - the protected species.

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#1465895 - 18/06/2018 12:34 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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I was forced to watch the first half of the soccer with my wife (she is a pom).

To put this in context I grew up in a very Aussie environment. Soccer was simply a game New Australians and Pommies played. True Aussies surfed and played league.

What I saw just reinforced why I do not like the game.

The French must have gone to a great acting academy. While the Aussies seemed to be confused which was the scoring goal end, as they seemed to be kicking the ball backwards more often than forward.
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#1465915 - 18/06/2018 16:22 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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When you're cornered by a team with such speed and ferocity like France, your only Option is the safe one - kick it back to the keeper. Good defense structure and tactic by the coach. However I do think they lacked a bit of aggression in attack, and I'd be telling them not to be scared to take a risk having a shot from outside the box from time to time. If they keep playing the way they did, they have a chance at winning the next 2 games

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#1465935 - 18/06/2018 17:58 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Apparently Optus disgraced themselves again last night again with their live streaming dropping out on numerous occasions.

How the government and Football Australia allowed this is beyond me. They should have left the coverage wholly on solely to SBS.
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#1465945 - 18/06/2018 19:25 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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SBS will be showing all games live for the next 48 hours only because of Optus screw ups. Personally I hope Optus keeps screwing up!!
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#1465952 - 18/06/2018 20:21 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Awesome news grin
I was about to say "Not too late for a change to SBS"

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#1466143 - 20/06/2018 17:03 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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#1466234 - 22/06/2018 11:20 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Another good effort by the Aussie's last night, probably a bit unlucky not to come away with the win, just lacking that killer blow atm.
IMO Arzani will be the man to land that killer blow in future matches.
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#1466237 - 22/06/2018 12:01 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Another good effort by the Aussie's last night, probably a bit unlucky not to come away with the win, just lacking that killer blow atm.
IMO Arzani will be the man to land that killer blow in future matches.


Was a good game but what the hell is wrong with the coach. Why would you leave Cahill on the bench. He may be old in comparison but the guy knows how to find the back of a net during free play. I would bet my house he would have put Arzanis cross into the back of the net

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#1466246 - 22/06/2018 17:07 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Yeah Brett Guy, I'm all for giving the young blokes a go, its the future, but sometime an old head out there for the last ten minutes or so can be the difference!!
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#1466280 - 23/06/2018 10:06 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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I thought the same thing too. It's crazy not sending Cahill on, especially when you think what he did against Japan in 2006 - came on late in the game, scored two goals in the space of about ten minutes, helping give Australia victory.

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#1466299 - 23/06/2018 20:10 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Probably the same reason why he wasnt given much game time at the Melb city, and then why he barely played any mins at Milwall.
and Lol @ 2006.... it was 12 years ago!!

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#1466319 - 24/06/2018 10:57 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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And what reason was that?


Edited by Rsav (24/06/2018 10:58)

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#1466367 - 24/06/2018 20:58 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: Rsav]
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And what reason was that?


I am guessing age, speed and stamina. I don't think anyone would disagree that a 38 year old will struggle but Cahill knows where to put himself to be on the end of a cross. It would seem a lot of our other attackers are not so good at that. Cahill should be on for the final 15-20 of every match

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#1466593 - 28/06/2018 02:42 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Oh well, that's us done for this World Cup. We just couldn't score in open play - something we need to work on.

Personally I'm looking forward to the women's World Cup next year. The Matildas are currently ranked 8th in the world and have been in good form recently.

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#1466594 - 28/06/2018 02:52 Re: World Cup - Russia 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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If it's any consolation we haven't been the only team to be bundled out in the group stage. In a huge boilover defending champions Germany have failed to progress past the group stage for the first time ever after losing to Korea 2-0, finishing last in their group.

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