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#1444136 - 07/12/2017 17:55 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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#1444139 - 07/12/2017 18:09 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Just watched the SSM bill pass through . Quite an historic moment.
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#1444140 - 07/12/2017 18:33 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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#1444143 - 07/12/2017 18:43 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Really, what is historic about it?

It is not like it is going to get people out of poverty or start up some new and exciting technology based industry.

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#1444144 - 07/12/2017 18:48 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Really, what is historic about it?

It is not like it is going to get people out of poverty or start up some new and exciting technology based industry.


Well. For one thing it shows that the terms 'conservative ' and 'progressive ' are not always accurate when describing our political parties. In this case it was the conservatives who made this happen despite the best attempts of the so called progressives to keep it up their sleeves for the next election.
Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.


Edited by Brett Guy (07/12/2017 18:48)

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#1444146 - 07/12/2017 18:53 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Mick10]
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Originally Posted By: Mick10

Obviously this whinger forgot it was his party that forced in the return of preferential voting last year with the backing of the Katter numpties. All so the ALP would pick up the preferences from the Greens in inner Brisbane. There was 17 minutes warning to parliament after the dodgy deal was made with KAP, no public scrutiny (i mean we are only the voters), there was no parliamentary committee, no cabinet discussion. It of course passed, and this numpty goes a whinges cause it cost him seat. Don't worry Mike, your party still won, toughen up smirk


Mick smile , you omitted the prelude to the reintroduction of compulsory preferential voting

In a stunning coup, aided by the two Katter Party MPs and nudged across the line by Labor defector Rob Pyne, the LNP forced the government to consider, for a third time, increasing the number of Queensland electorates - and to debate and vote on the legislation a little over 48 hours after it was introduced.
The LNP crowed with its victory, with the government all but guaranteed a defeat.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa...422-gocddh.html

it would be twice as funny, only for the fact these clowns get voted in to represent the voter, not to play party games frown


Edited by Gad (07/12/2017 18:55)

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#1444147 - 07/12/2017 18:54 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Maybe grab a dictionary and look up the basic english word "historic" RC. But then you totally failed to comprehend a land clearing policy so it's not really surprising. It also changes many legal issues for these people so yes, it is historic on many levels.
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#1444150 - 07/12/2017 18:59 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Kino]
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#1444151 - 07/12/2017 19:01 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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I actually know Rob Pyne personally Gad and am wrapped that he lost his seat. He was always going to go rogue and got his come uppance at the election. Too busy interferring in local council issues to work for the state. He used Labor to get in.
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#1444152 - 07/12/2017 19:14 Re: Australian Politics [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
I actually know Rob Pyne personally Gad and am wrapped that he lost his seat. He was always going to go rogue and got his come uppance at the election. Too busy interferring in local council issues to work for the state. He used Labor to get in.


Joanne Miller is still there and may take the One Nation MP in hand, oops I mean on a tour of party games

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#1444153 - 07/12/2017 19:16 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy

Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.


So all these SSM advocates will now be championing closely related people to marry now?

I think not.

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#1444155 - 07/12/2017 19:23 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Originally Posted By: Brett Guy

Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.


So all these SSM advocates will now be championing closely related people to marry now?

I think not.


There may or may not be other issues that grow in the wake of this but if that is the case we should deal with them individually on a case by case basis.

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#1444157 - 07/12/2017 19:48 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Gad]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
I actually know Rob Pyne personally Gad and am wrapped that he lost his seat. He was always going to go rogue and got his come uppance at the election. Too busy interferring in local council issues to work for the state. He used Labor to get in.


Joanne Miller is still there and may take the One Nation MP in hand, oops I mean on a tour of party games


Maybe. I personally think Labor would have like a few more seats so that they could disendorse her. They may have won Townsville too it seems? That would keep Mick happy smile

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl...207-p4yxi1.html
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#1444161 - 07/12/2017 20:21 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy

Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.


Indeed, it's great.
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#1444163 - 07/12/2017 20:26 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy

There may or may not be other issues that grow in the wake of this but if that is the case we should deal with them individually on a case by case basis.


We all know that is not going to happen.

They make a song and dance over it, get what they want then leave everything at that.

Much new discrimination in many different quarters will happen and no one will care, least of all the SSM advocates as they have got what they wanted.

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#1444171 - 07/12/2017 20:48 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
Originally Posted By: RC
Really, what is historic about it?

It is not like it is going to get people out of poverty or start up some new and exciting technology based industry.


Well. For one thing it shows that the terms 'conservative ' and 'progressive ' are not always accurate when describing our political parties. In this case it was the conservatives who made this happen despite the best attempts of the so called progressives to keep it up their sleeves for the next election.
Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.

When you find out the majority of Australians wanted it anyway and put it to the vote it becomes a populist thing to do, if the polls indicated most Australians were against it I am sure it would have been swept under the carpet again.

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#1444175 - 07/12/2017 21:01 Re: Australian Politics [Re: Red Watch]
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Originally Posted By: Red Watch
Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
Originally Posted By: RC
Really, what is historic about it?

It is not like it is going to get people out of poverty or start up some new and exciting technology based industry.


Well. For one thing it shows that the terms 'conservative ' and 'progressive ' are not always accurate when describing our political parties. In this case it was the conservatives who made this happen despite the best attempts of the so called progressives to keep it up their sleeves for the next election.
Frivolity aside though it is pretty big to remove blatant discrimination from a section of society.

When you find out the majority of Australians wanted it anyway and put it to the vote it becomes a populist thing to do, if the polls indicated most Australians were against it I am sure it would have been swept under the carpet again.


Democracy is about populism redwatch. Consistently voing against the popular wish is what is called a dictatorship or authoritarianism.

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#1444177 - 07/12/2017 21:03 Re: Australian Politics [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By: RC
Originally Posted By: Brett Guy

There may or may not be other issues that grow in the wake of this but if that is the case we should deal with them individually on a case by case basis.


We all know that is not going to happen.

They make a song and dance over it, get what they want then leave everything at that.

Much new discrimination in many different quarters will happen and no one will care, least of all the SSM advocates as they have got what they wanted.


When the GST was being implemented there were quarters of the community that cried loudly about how it would ruin investment, send small business to the wall, destroy the poor, and bring Satan into our homes.

Guess what? Still waiting for this to happen.

It seems to me Australia has its fair share of 'Henny Penny's '.

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#1444194 - 08/12/2017 06:32 Re: Australian Politics [Re: slipperyfish]
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Time now for all sides of Politics to get on with running this country, I am sick of this SSM debate ...who F'n cares !!!! ... there are more important things that need attending to .

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#1444211 - 08/12/2017 10:39 Re: Australian Politics [Re: BlueyZarsoff]
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Originally Posted By: BlueyZarsoff
Time now for all sides of Politics to get on with running this country, I am sick of this SSM debate ...who F'n cares !!!! ... there are more important things that need attending to .


Yes your right, our gutless representatives should have done this long ago on the floor of parliament, in stead of wasting millions of $$$$ and playing party games, and tunnel vision for political shame!

many individuals and many families, equal legal rights are essential and a must for all.

nothing is more important than to be recognised as equal in law, even if it has to be fought for. Democracies are built on it, like it or not.

Governor General has signed SSM into law this morning, congrats to all those that have equality with the passing of this law.


Edited by Gad (08/12/2017 10:41)

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